Quince Orchard community meeting for Boundary Analysis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

Um. Ok, I guess? My kids aren't either, and i don't understand the panic about the boundary analysis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

Having enough high income kids to balance out the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

If you live in a highly segregated neighborhood near an integrated neighborhood, your child is ALREADY a social experiement. Just an experiment that began before you bought your house, and one based ondecades of housing and education policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

Um. Ok, I guess? My kids aren't either, and i don't understand the panic about the boundary analysis.

I believe that the BOE should be providing the backbone of stabllity to the county, not be the source of anxiety.
They should be targeting the gap while also striving to preserve the achievement.
They should be fixing what is broken, not messing with what works.
They should be respecting that families chose where they live, not make families question ever investing a red cent into this county.
They should be motivating the community to come together, not repeating the experiment of forced demographic integration that failed time and time again nationwide.
They should make us proud to be in MCPS instead of questioning daily wherher we made a mistake trusting the MCPS to educate our children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

If you live in a highly segregated neighborhood near an integrated neighborhood, your child is ALREADY a social experiement. Just an experiment that began before you bought your house, and one based ondecades of housing and education policy.

No. The majority of families along boundaries of highly achieving schools sacrificed to prioritize the education of their children. These are first generation immigrant families, single mothers, and families hit by adversity. All are doing the best they can.

You may the power to take their savings and their dreams, but do not for a minute think that you have the moral high ground.

You don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No. The majority of families along boundaries of highly achieving schools sacrificed to prioritize the education of their children. These are first generation immigrant families, single mothers, and families hit by adversity. All are doing the best they can.

You may the power to take their savings and their dreams, but do not for a minute think that you have the moral high ground.

You don't.

I agree and I am tired of people assuming that being wealthy enough to live in a neighborhood like this means you’re some rich jerk and you deserve to be taken down a notch. What some people said at that meeting was WRONG but it does not reflect the entire area and it was selectively chosen to make a point in an article.

Why does it have to be that we want our schools to educate our children to give them opportunity but when they reach that opportunity they are treated like selfish animals for wanting it for their children? Why bother with this if all people who manage to pull themselves up are attacked once they get there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

If you live in a highly segregated neighborhood near an integrated neighborhood, your child is ALREADY a social experiement. Just an experiment that began before you bought your house, and one based ondecades of housing and education policy.

No. The majority of families along boundaries of highly achieving schools sacrificed to prioritize the education of their children. These are first generation immigrant families, single mothers, and families hit by adversity. All are doing the best they can.

You may the power to take their savings and their dreams, but do not for a minute think that you have the moral high ground.

You don't.

Whether people sacrificed to live in a highly segregated neighborhood or not - the point remains that these school boundaries were not handed down by G-d. They were created by human beings, at some point in the past, and can and should be changed to reflect new realities in terms of overcrowding and underutilization of school facilities.

They should also be changed because segregated schools are indefensible. They were indefensible in 1954, and in 1971, and they are indefensible now.

[Anonymous]

The stability of society is not wrong or immoral just because it does not benefit your favorite ethnic group.

The only significant impact of disturbed school boundaries are diminished real estate prices. There will be no uptick in student achievement among your preferred subtype of students, let alone net increase.

You are disturbing order out of spite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I believe that the BOE should be providing the backbone of stabllity to the county, not be the source of anxiety.
They should be targeting the gap while also striving to preserve the achievement.
They should be fixing what is broken, not messing with what works.
They should be respecting that families chose where they live, not make families question ever investing a red cent into this county.
They should be motivating the community to come together, not repeating the experiment of forced demographic integration that failed time and time again nationwide.
They should make us proud to be in MCPS instead of questioning daily wherher we made a mistake trusting the MCPS to educate our children.

So don't be anxious. Nobody is making you move. Nobody is ruining your child's school. Nobody is forcing you to argue with your neighbors. Nobody forced you to buy lots for your residence based on the assumption that school boundaries would never change. If you choose to do any of those things, that's your choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I believe that the BOE should be providing the backbone of stabllity to the county, not be the source of anxiety.
They should be targeting the gap while also striving to preserve the achievement.
They should be fixing what is broken, not messing with what works.
They should be respecting that families chose where they live, not make families question ever investing a red cent into this county.
They should be motivating the community to come together, not repeating the experiment of forced demographic integration that failed time and time again nationwide.
They should make us proud to be in MCPS instead of questioning daily wherher we made a mistake trusting the MCPS to educate our children.

So don't be anxious. Nobody is making you move. Nobody is ruining your child's school. Nobody is forcing you to argue with your neighbors. Nobody forced you to buy lots for your residence based on the assumption that school boundaries would never change. If you choose to do any of those things, that's your choice.

In a way, I am so thankful for these anonymous conversations.

I am seeing Social Justice Warriors in a completely new light - the complete lack of.compassion, the inhumanity, the hypocrisy. None of you have cared over this entire time that families like mine may lose $200k and have the inconvenience of moving while you attempt to walk on rainbows or whatever.

Over the last 3 months, you have collectively persuaded me to start voting republican. Not on the national level probably, but locally? I have never tried it before, but now I cannot wait.

Wonder how many other converts you bave made.

[Anonymous]

It won't have a huge impact in our 60/40 county.

That said, every vote counts. This should mobilize many politically silent people to vote - BOE, local elections, you name it.

Perhaps I will be lucky enough to vote your people out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For most sane parents, this is an entirely financial debate because none of us would ever consider actually sending our children to failing schools if rezoned. It would just be expensive to move, that's all.

I hope the BOE understands that it can change boundaries, but it will never get our kids.

You keep saying that. Who's we, and how will the BoE get whoever-we-are's kids?

My child is not a social experiment.
My child is not a full-time tutor.
My child is not a stairstep as the education politicians look for a promotion.
My family will not play your game.

If you live in a highly segregated neighborhood near an integrated neighborhood, your child is ALREADY a social experiement. Just an experiment that began before you bought your house, and one based ondecades of housing and education policy.

No. The majority of families along boundaries of highly achieving schools sacrificed to prioritize the education of their children. These are first generation immigrant families, single mothers, and families hit by adversity. All are doing the best they can.

You may the power to take their savings and their dreams, but do not for a minute think that you have the moral high ground.

You don't.

Whether people sacrificed to live in a highly segregated neighborhood or not - the point remains that these school boundaries were not handed down by G-d. They were created by human beings, at some point in the past, and can and should be changed to reflect new realities in terms of overcrowding and underutilization of school facilities.

They should also be changed because segregated schools are indefensible. They were indefensible in 1954, and in 1971, and they are indefensible now.

+10000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If you live in a highly segregated neighborhood near an integrated neighborhood, your child is ALREADY a social experiement. Just an experiment that began

They should also be changed because segregated schools are indefensible. They were indefensible in 1954, and in 1971, and they are indefensible now.

They are not segregated. They are open to all people who live in the district, you dolt. Don’t use words to use racism as a label to just arbitrarily make a point. There are no schools in Montgomery County that are segregated as in 1954 Alabama. Not one. If people are made out to be racists no matter what they do, your points will be ineffective. Does racism exist in the County? Yes. In fact, making a blanket assumption that Asian people are “scared” of Black people, which has been implied many time in this thread, is racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I believe that the BOE should be providing the backbone of stabllity to the county, not be the source of anxiety.
They should be targeting the gap while also striving to preserve the achievement.
They should be fixing what is broken, not messing with what works.
They should be respecting that families chose where they live, not make families question ever investing a red cent into this county.
They should be motivating the community to come together, not repeating the experiment of forced demographic integration that failed time and time again nationwide.
They should make us proud to be in MCPS instead of questioning daily wherher we made a mistake trusting the MCPS to educate our children.

So don't be anxious. Nobody is making you move. Nobody is ruining your child's school. Nobody is forcing you to argue with your neighbors. Nobody forced you to buy lots for your residence based on the assumption that school boundaries would never change. If you choose to do any of those things, that's your choice.

Exactly. Breathe in, breathe out. Wait and see what's in the report. I think this will be all turn out to be much less significant than many people are fearing.