Does anybody know the incident recently happened in Sidwell?

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again, it was a SE Asian American calling himself "savageindian"

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Anonymous wrote:again, it was a SE Asian American calling himself "savageindian"

+1. Kids these days use "savage" in a different way--my teen nephews seem to use it to mean daring or ruthless. So, maybe a play on words.

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Anonymous wrote:To think there is no way to figure it out.....come on people. Stop showing your tech-Dinosaur-ness.

Yeah, I’d imagine Kahoot could supply the MAC address for each username, and then the school could use steps to figure out the MAC address for each student phone. Might take some work, but I’d imagine Kahoot would supply because it wants to be supportive of school use.

Kids used cell phones no Mac

On iOS, MAC is same as WiFi address, not sure is android calls it something different. All phones have unique identifiers that can be logged and traced. At least that is what security people have told me when I’ve worked on those issues and tracked phones that way.

No, it's not. A MAC address is media access control, it's a 6 digit hexadecimal code every device with wifi has and is unique to each device (in theory - they can be spoofed). Typically the server for a wifi system would track the MAC address for assigning IP addresses for Wifi. Not sure how Kahoot logs, but in theory a given user name should be tied to an IP address, which would be tied to a MAC address, which would be tied to a given student's phone.

(And MAC is not the same as Mac, which is the Apple brand).

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Anonymous wrote:again, it was a SE Asian American calling himself "savageindian"

+1. Kids these days use "savage" in a different way--my teen nephews seem to use it to mean daring or ruthless. So, maybe a play on words.

Kids these days? "Savage" was used when I was a kid for anything extreme or awesome.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm naive but I can't believe there are key board icons of swastikas even available.

It’s a common Buddhist icon/character you are in Korea, Japan, and china so not surprised it’s potentially available.

The Nazi swastika and the religious swastika are two extremely different things. I wish news reports would specify that the symbol used was a "Nazi swastika."

I get that, but they look the same. Point being it's not hard in iOS to get the Chinese character (wan) which looks like a swastika (reversed). I don't doubt that the kids were using the symbol as a swastika, not to represent Buddhist faith in some way.

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/wanisnotanazisymbol/

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Anonymous wrote:again, it was a SE Asian American calling himself "savageindian"

+1. Kids these days use "savage" in a different way--my teen nephews seem to use it to mean daring or ruthless. So, maybe a play on words.

Kids these days? "Savage" was used when I was a kid for anything extreme or awesome.

Really? How old are you? I just turned 40 and have only heard it used like this in the past few years. Also, the meaning seems slightly different from when you were a kid.

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It's like the difference between 'bad' and 'bayyad'

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Anonymous wrote:again, it was a SE Asian American calling himself "savageindian"

+1. Kids these days use "savage" in a different way--my teen nephews seem to use it to mean daring or ruthless. So, maybe a play on words.

Kids these days? "Savage" was used when I was a kid for anything extreme or awesome.

Really? How old are you? I just turned 40 and have only heard it used like this in the past few years. Also, the meaning seems slightly different from when you were a kid.

Not the PP. I'm in my 40s, and "savage" has more commonly been used to mean daring/ruthless for as long as I can remember. That is, except in reference to something pre-1900 or thereabouts, in which case the meaning was "barbaric".

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Savage + Indian is definitely in poor taste. I hope this kid learns this.

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You all need to lighten the eff up.

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Anonymous wrote:To think there is no way to figure it out.....come on people. Stop showing your tech-Dinosaur-ness.

Yeah, I’d imagine Kahoot could supply the MAC address for each username, and then the school could use steps to figure out the MAC address for each student phone. Might take some work, but I’d imagine Kahoot would supply because it wants to be supportive of school use.

Kids used cell phones no Mac

On iOS, MAC is same as WiFi address, not sure is android calls it something different. All phones have unique identifiers that can be logged and traced. At least that is what security people have told me when I’ve worked on those issues and tracked phones that way.

No, it's not. A MAC address is media access control, it's a 6 digit hexadecimal code every device with wifi has and is unique to each device (in theory - they can be spoofed). Typically the server for a wifi system would track the MAC address for assigning IP addresses for Wifi. Not sure how Kahoot logs, but in theory a given user name should be tied to an IP address, which would be tied to a MAC address, which would be tied to a given student's phone.

(And MAC is not the same as Mac, which is the Apple brand).

Ok.

I think there may be some misunderstanding. We have generally the same understanding of what a MAC address is. My point was that on an iOS mobile phone, the MAC address is labeled “WiFi address”. Several websites make that clear ...

https://kb.netgear.com/1005/How-do-I-find-my-device-s-MAC-address
iOS:
Select Settings > General > About.
A Wi-Fi Address displays. This is your device’s MAC address.

For purposes of this thread, the key point is that even though the kids used cell phones, those phones have unique identifiers that potentially can be traced. No need to go further off topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Savage + Indian is definitely in poor taste. I hope this kid learns this.

Sounds like people have incorrectly assumed that the word Indian which may still be an acceptable way to describe people from South East Asia was intended as a derogatory term for the indigenous people of the Americas.

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Anonymous wrote:again, it was a SE Asian American calling himself "savageindian"

+1. Kids these days use "savage" in a different way--my teen nephews seem to use it to mean daring or ruthless. So, maybe a play on words.

Kids these days? "Savage" was used when I was a kid for anything extreme or awesome.

Remember, this is a school that several years ago banned Washington Redskins gear.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see how the Washington Post covers this story. They have given very favorable coverage to Sidwell over the years in comparison to other area independent schools.

GDS seems to get more fawning coverage. There's a senior Post editor who was a GDS trustee.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so why in the heck is a school using a program that allows kids to upload untraceable information?? Seems like the school needs to do an overhaul of the tech they are employing or expect this kind of stuff to happen again and perhaps be even worse.

if you read the thread, you would know it was not the "school" giving the presentation. it was a high school student giving a presentation on his service project. and he was using a popular program/app called kahoot that allows you to creative an interactive learning game in real time. you can cast blame wherever you want but calling for an overhaul of the tech at Sidwell is ridiculous. as it is, I would imagine that they would now ban this program because of the option to create a username. that's a shame because it's a simple, easy program that makes presentations more interesting and fun.

The "NGO" seems tailor made for a compelling college essay.