USMNT

[Anonymous]

agree - good post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I thought, you haven’t played team sports. You can’t just throw together players and expect them to perform at peak from minute one. There are tendedencies to learn, spoken and unspoken communication, common movement, and other intangibles that need to be developed. That’s an organic process and happens through playing together. No amount of coaching develops that, which is why it’s called chemistry. Some players just flat out don’t work well together. That’s bad chemistry. Some play better together over time. That’s typical. Some play fairly well together immediately and become amazing together over time. That’s rare and usually championship worthy.

None of this is related to coaching and it’s exactly what the OP was referring to and I happen to agree with. It’s not blaming anyone, just acknowledging a fact of life. I get that it doesn’t fit your little narrative, but it’s very clear at this point that your purpose here is simply to trash US Soccer.

You can just keep agreeing with yourself. Your mindset and level of analysis is that of a recreational soccer or a casual fan with a skin deep knowledge of the game (e.g."organic process," "chemistry,""unspoken communication," etc). This coaching staff had over a year to build the team ready after the same coaching staff (plus Arena) failed to qualify for the WC. They failed during the qualification process. And they are failing again. No surprises here. The national team's failures are directly related to coaching and decisions made by our federation. And, by the way, you are completely wrong about my background, even though my background is irrelevant to the national team's struggles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:James is a world class player, if you allow him to shoot in the box, he will place it 9 times out of 10 where he wants it. We don't have anyone even close to his level, Pulisic included. Scissor kick was indeed low probability, but Colombia already had a lead after scoring 3 goals and fully controlled the game.

James is fantastic, but he hits that shot about 10% of the time if he's lucky.
Granted, that's compared to about 1% for anyone else, but still.

I have to disagree, I think he hits that shot at a higher rate maybe 50% of the time. I know it is pretty unbelievable but this is how it is in other countries. The way a pitcher in the majors has control and can hit the corners is how these professionals control the ball with their feet.

Well he will hit that shot at a higher % vs the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I thought, you haven’t played team sports. You can’t just throw together players and expect them to perform at peak from minute one. There are tendedencies to learn, spoken and unspoken communication, common movement, and other intangibles that need to be developed. That’s an organic process and happens through playing together. No amount of coaching develops that, which is why it’s called chemistry. Some players just flat out don’t work well together. That’s bad chemistry. Some play better together over time. That’s typical. Some play fairly well together immediately and become amazing together over time. That’s rare and usually championship worthy.

None of this is related to coaching and it’s exactly what the OP was referring to and I happen to agree with. It’s not blaming anyone, just acknowledging a fact of life. I get that it doesn’t fit your little narrative, but it’s very clear at this point that your purpose here is simply to trash US Soccer.

You can just keep agreeing with yourself. Your mindset and level of analysis is that of a recreational soccer or a casual fan with a skin deep knowledge of the game (e.g."organic process," "chemistry,""unspoken communication," etc). This coaching staff had over a year to build the team ready after the same coaching staff (plus Arena) failed to qualify for the WC. They failed during the qualification process. And they are failing again. No surprises here. The national team's failures are directly related to coaching and decisions made by our federation. And, by the way, you are completely wrong about my background, even though my background is irrelevant to the national team's struggles.

The fact that you don't understand even the basics of human dynamics and interaction, as described in my explanation, tells me all I need to know about you and your background.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I thought, you haven’t played team sports. You can’t just throw together players and expect them to perform at peak from minute one. There are tendedencies to learn, spoken and unspoken communication, common movement, and other intangibles that need to be developed. That’s an organic process and happens through playing together. No amount of coaching develops that, which is why it’s called chemistry. Some players just flat out don’t work well together. That’s bad chemistry. Some play better together over time. That’s typical. Some play fairly well together immediately and become amazing together over time. That’s rare and usually championship worthy.

None of this is related to coaching and it’s exactly what the OP was referring to and I happen to agree with. It’s not blaming anyone, just acknowledging a fact of life. I get that it doesn’t fit your little narrative, but it’s very clear at this point that your purpose here is simply to trash US Soccer.

You can just keep agreeing with yourself. Your mindset and level of analysis is that of a recreational soccer or a casual fan with a skin deep knowledge of the game (e.g."organic process," "chemistry,""unspoken communication," etc). This coaching staff had over a year to build the team ready after the same coaching staff (plus Arena) failed to qualify for the WC. They failed during the qualification process. And they are failing again. No surprises here. The national team's failures are directly related to coaching and decisions made by our federation. And, by the way, you are completely wrong about my background, even though my background is irrelevant to the national team's struggles.

The fact that you don't understand even the basics of human dynamics and interaction, as described in my explanation, tells me all I need to know about you and your background.[/quot]

The fact you cling to your chemistry crutch is asinine. Anyone that’s truly played the game knows tactics go far beyond “figuring out how to play together.” Are you joking? That’s part of the problem, coaches are telling the players what essentially amounts to “you’re gonna play here, go figure it out.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I thought, you haven’t played team sports. You can’t just throw together players and expect them to perform at peak from minute one. There are tendedencies to learn, spoken and unspoken communication, common movement, and other intangibles that need to be developed. That’s an organic process and happens through playing together. No amount of coaching develops that, which is why it’s called chemistry. Some players just flat out don’t work well together. That’s bad chemistry. Some play better together over time. That’s typical. Some play fairly well together immediately and become amazing together over time. That’s rare and usually championship worthy.

None of this is related to coaching and it’s exactly what the OP was referring to and I happen to agree with. It’s not blaming anyone, just acknowledging a fact of life. I get that it doesn’t fit your little narrative, but it’s very clear at this point that your purpose here is simply to trash US Soccer.

You can just keep agreeing with yourself. Your mindset and level of analysis is that of a recreational soccer or a casual fan with a skin deep knowledge of the game (e.g."organic process," "chemistry,""unspoken communication," etc). This coaching staff had over a year to build the team ready after the same coaching staff (plus Arena) failed to qualify for the WC. They failed during the qualification process. And they are failing again. No surprises here. The national team's failures are directly related to coaching and decisions made by our federation. And, by the way, you are completely wrong about my background, even though my background is irrelevant to the national team's struggles.

The fact that you don't understand even the basics of human dynamics and interaction, as described in my explanation, tells me all I need to know about you and your background.[/quot]

The fact you cling to your chemistry crutch is asinine. Anyone that’s truly played the game knows tactics go far beyond “figuring out how to play together.” Are you joking? That’s part of the problem, coaches are telling the players what essentially amounts to “you’re gonna play here, go figure it out.”

+1. Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As I thought, you haven’t played team sports. You can’t just throw together players and expect them to perform at peak from minute one. There are tendedencies to learn, spoken and unspoken communication, common movement, and other intangibles that need to be developed. That’s an organic process and happens through playing together. No amount of coaching develops that, which is why it’s called chemistry. Some players just flat out don’t work well together. That’s bad chemistry. Some play better together over time. That’s typical. Some play fairly well together immediately and become amazing together over time. That’s rare and usually championship worthy.

None of this is related to coaching and it’s exactly what the OP was referring to and I happen to agree with. It’s not blaming anyone, just acknowledging a fact of life. I get that it doesn’t fit your little narrative, but it’s very clear at this point that your purpose here is simply to trash US Soccer.

You can just keep agreeing with yourself. Your mindset and level of analysis is that of a recreational soccer or a casual fan with a skin deep knowledge of the game (e.g."organic process," "chemistry,""unspoken communication," etc). This coaching staff had over a year to build the team ready after the same coaching staff (plus Arena) failed to qualify for the WC. They failed during the qualification process. And they are failing again. No surprises here. The national team's failures are directly related to coaching and decisions made by our federation. And, by the way, you are completely wrong about my background, even though my background is irrelevant to the national team's struggles.

The fact that you don't understand even the basics of human dynamics and interaction, as described in my explanation, tells me all I need to know about you and your background.

The fact you cling to your chemistry crutch is asinine. Anyone that’s truly played the game knows tactics go far beyond “figuring out how to play together.” Are you joking? That’s part of the problem, coaches are telling the players what essentially amounts to “you’re gonna play here, go figure it out.”

+1. Exactly!

I see you and your husband are back. You both don’t understand how teams gel, and it’s obvious. It’s not rec, it happens with every team from the littlest to the first team pros. You people have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.

[Anonymous]

The team needs to "gel" is a classic example of recreational mentality. The teams do not magically gel with the passage of time. Tactical instructions and carefully choreographed team movement are essential. All top coaches in all styles of play do it.

[Anonymous]

Gotcha. Guess folks will have to agree to disagree on this then. In your view players who don’t know one another should be able to play optimally together from day one. The other side is that players need time to bond and learn the nuances of each other’s play. Of course this has nothing to do with coaching and tactics, which is another facet of play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. Guess folks will have to agree to disagree on this then. In your view players who don’t know one another should be able to play optimally together from day one. The other side is that players need time to bond and learn the nuances of each other’s play. Of course this has nothing to do with coaching and tactics, which is another facet of play.

Excuses. The players know each other. It’s the coaching that’s not up to par. We’re talking about pros here, not a Sunday league team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The team needs to "gel" is a classic example of recreational mentality. The teams do not magically gel with the passage of time. Tactical instructions and carefully choreographed team movement are essential. All top coaches in all styles of play do it.

You're kidding, right?
Tactical instruction is incredibly important, but it doesn't magically lead to carefully choreographed team movement. That takes practice and communication among the players.
Sure, pros can gel quicker than rec players, but are you really arguing that a back line that is playing together for the first time should be just as good as a back line that plays together all the time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The team needs to "gel" is a classic example of recreational mentality. The teams do not magically gel with the passage of time. Tactical instructions and carefully choreographed team movement are essential. All top coaches in all styles of play do it.

You're kidding, right?
Tactical instruction is incredibly important, but it doesn't magically lead to carefully choreographed team movement. That takes practice and communication among the players.
Sure, pros can gel quicker than rec players, but are you really arguing that a back line that is playing together for the first time should be just as good as a back line that plays together all the time?

Yes, that's what he and the wife were arguing. He apparently feels that our young new MNT crew are like robots, and that you can insert them any which way into the lineup and they should be able to perform at peak together. Because after all, tactics. And they are pros.

[Anonymous]

So none of these guys came up through the youth national teams, they’re playing their positions for the first time? Your argument about the husband and wife is cute, but you’re just adding conjecture that’s got nothing to do with what you’re arguing. This is an anonymous board, and you come across as a fool who’s got US soccer’s ballbag firmly lodged in your throat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So none of these guys came up through the youth national teams, they’re playing their positions for the first time? Your argument about the husband and wife is cute, but you’re just adding conjecture that’s got nothing to do with what you’re arguing. This is an anonymous board, and you come across as a fool who’s got US soccer’s ballbag firmly lodged in your throat.

And you come across as someone that knows nothing of soccer, or, for that matter, team sports in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So none of these guys came up through the youth national teams, they’re playing their positions for the first time? Your argument about the husband and wife is cute, but you’re just adding conjecture that’s got nothing to do with what you’re arguing. This is an anonymous board, and you come across as a fool who’s got US soccer’s ballbag firmly lodged in your throat.

And you come across as someone that knows nothing of soccer, or, for that matter, team sports in general.

I know far more than you do bud, but I don’t need to make multiple posts claiming others “must not know anything about soccer, or team sports in general” to prove my point. Enjoy rec