Say goodbye to your transit subsidies

[Anonymous]

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I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Stop electing Republicans and you'll get some help. But we can't help you when you're intent on shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.

Because our country and all our states and localities have always been run by Republicans and those poor Democrats just haven't gotten a chance ... oh wait.

Huh? The economies of NY, CA, DC, NoVA, Seattle, Denver, and Boston are absolutely BOOMING. All are run by Dems. I'm not sure what your point is. Congress has been controlled by the GOP for nearly 8 years and they've done very little to help those who don't live in booming Democratic cities. So, if you "need help," either move to a Democratic city or elect more Democrats. But voting for the GOP will just make things more un-affordable for you.

IF WE elect more democrats, there will be more government jobs created, then we can all get a shot at those sweet deals.

Those "sweet deals" are actually earned parts of compensation packages. Do you also whine about military soldiers who get monthly housing stipends and fee-free Tricare coverage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Stop electing Republicans and you'll get some help. But we can't help you when you're intent on shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.

Because our country and all our states and localities have always been run by Republicans and those poor Democrats just haven't gotten a chance ... oh wait.

Huh? The economies of NY, CA, DC, NoVA, Seattle, Denver, and Boston are absolutely BOOMING. All are run by Dems. I'm not sure what your point is. Congress has been controlled by the GOP for nearly 8 years and they've done very little to help those who don't live in booming Democratic cities. So, if you "need help," either move to a Democratic city or elect more Democrats. But voting for the GOP will just make things more un-affordable for you.

IF WE elect more democrats, there will be more government jobs created, then we can all get a shot at those sweet deals.

Those "sweet deals" are actually earned parts of compensation packages. Do you also whine about military soldiers who get monthly housing stipends and fee-free Tricare coverage?

I thinks it’s great. No joke. I’d like a compensation package like federal employees, especially the health care.

Soldiers however, are only getting paid a small amount of salary on top of those benefits and some are risking their life. I don’t think they’re compensated enough quite frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Stop electing Republicans and you'll get some help. But we can't help you when you're intent on shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.

Because our country and all our states and localities have always been run by Republicans and those poor Democrats just haven't gotten a chance ... oh wait.

Huh? The economies of NY, CA, DC, NoVA, Seattle, Denver, and Boston are absolutely BOOMING. All are run by Dems. I'm not sure what your point is. Congress has been controlled by the GOP for nearly 8 years and they've done very little to help those who don't live in booming Democratic cities. So, if you "need help," either move to a Democratic city or elect more Democrats. But voting for the GOP will just make things more un-affordable for you.

IF WE elect more democrats, there will be more government jobs created, then we can all get a shot at those sweet deals.

Those "sweet deals" are actually earned parts of compensation packages. Do you also whine about military soldiers who get monthly housing stipends and fee-free Tricare coverage?

I thinks it’s great. No joke. I’d like a compensation package like federal employees, especially the health care.

Soldiers however, are only getting paid a small amount of salary on top of those benefits and some are risking their life. I don’t think they’re compensated enough quite frankly.

They get paid well for the job they do. My BIL's reenlistment bonus 18 months ago was nearly $80K tax free. His housing stipend pay for about 90% of his mortgage payment. He pays no PMI and they have an artificially low interest rate on their VA loan. Plus, his Tricare covers my sister and their two kids with zero dollars out-of-pocket for two complicated pregnancies. They have an extremely comfortable cradle-to-grave lifestyle.

Yes, they are sacrificing for their country. But I have friends who work for USAID who have been sexually assaulted while in rural areas. State Department members who miss the holidays with their family every year. Folks who work in DoD or Intel agencies that spend much of the year in hostile countries.

So it sickens me when I see people on DCUM bash "government workers." Many of us are legitimately sacrificing for the good of this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Tax bill eliminates the ability for employers to write off the transit and parking subsidies they give their employees. And without that incentive, you can pretty much guarantee that most employers will not hand them out.

I assume this will also worsen traffic as people start to drive instead of taking public transportation.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-gop-tax-bill-commuters-20171216-story.html

Did you people read this article? "Companies could still provide the parking and transit passes to employees, but they would no longer get the tax deduction. And employees who pay for their own transportation costs can still use pre-tax income."
If employers set up these ira type accounts employees are still paying with pre-tax income. That is ripping off everyone else. What's next? pre-tax lunch at work? Business clothes? This is all BS...

Are you really that stupid? Governments everywhere subsidize public transport because it reduces traffic congestion and pollution relative to having millions of extra cars on the road. Metro is expensive. It can cost 6.50 one way to go somewhere on Metro at peak time. Removing those subsidies will cause low and middle income people to use Metro a lot less and drive more.

This.

Fares only produce 27% of DC Metro revenue. The other 73% is from grants a subsidies directly to the metro budget. The government is the largest issuer of free passes, which most agencies mandate, regardless of the ability to deduct. Is anyone on here employed by a private, for profit employer who gives passes? ?

Yes, and I know plenty of other people whose private employers issue Metrochek benefits too. Just because the government is the largest issuer of free passes, doesn't mean it's the only issuer. Public transport subsidies are good public policy. Firms that even a little environmentally conscious, or who have a lot of young employees who prefer to spend there time in public transit surfing on their phones rather than driving tend to issue them. Maybe you should get out of your bubble and meet some of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Stop electing Republicans and you'll get some help. But we can't help you when you're intent on shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.

Because our country and all our states and localities have always been run by Republicans and those poor Democrats just haven't gotten a chance ... oh wait.

Huh? The economies of NY, CA, DC, NoVA, Seattle, Denver, and Boston are absolutely BOOMING. All are run by Dems. I'm not sure what your point is. Congress has been controlled by the GOP for nearly 8 years and they've done very little to help those who don't live in booming Democratic cities. So, if you "need help," either move to a Democratic city or elect more Democrats. But voting for the GOP will just make things more un-affordable for you.

IF WE elect more democrats, there will be more government jobs created, then we can all get a shot at those sweet deals.

Those "sweet deals" are actually earned parts of compensation packages. Do you also whine about military soldiers who get monthly housing stipends and fee-free Tricare coverage?

I thinks it’s great. No joke. I’d like a compensation package like federal employees, especially the health care.

Soldiers however, are only getting paid a small amount of salary on top of those benefits and some are risking their life. I don’t think they’re compensated enough quite frankly.

They get paid well for the job they do. My BIL's reenlistment bonus 18 months ago was nearly $80K tax free. His housing stipend pay for about 90% of his mortgage payment. He pays no PMI and they have an artificially low interest rate on their VA loan. Plus, his Tricare covers my sister and their two kids with zero dollars out-of-pocket for two complicated pregnancies. They have an extremely comfortable cradle-to-grave lifestyle.

Yes, they are sacrificing for their country. But I have friends who work for USAID who have been sexually assaulted while in rural areas. State Department members who miss the holidays with their family every year. Folks who work in DoD or Intel agencies that spend much of the year in hostile countries.

So it sickens me when I see people on DCUM bash "government workers." Many of us are legitimately sacrificing for the good of this country.

I’m not bashing. I’d like a job with good security and benefits. I already work holidays, overtime for no additional pay, go to scary neighborhoods for my employer, work with mentally unstable clients, have been threatened, have been sexually harassed on my job. You think jobs on the outside of the government have any different pitfalls?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tax bill eliminates the ability for employers to write off the transit and parking subsidies they give their employees. And without that incentive, you can pretty much guarantee that most employers will not hand them out.

I assume this will also worsen traffic as people start to drive instead of taking public transportation.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-gop-tax-bill-commuters-20171216-story.html

Did you people read this article? "Companies could still provide the parking and transit passes to employees, but they would no longer get the tax deduction. And employees who pay for their own transportation costs can still use pre-tax income."
If employers set up these ira type accounts employees are still paying with pre-tax income. That is ripping off everyone else. What's next? pre-tax lunch at work? Business clothes? This is all BS...

Are you really that stupid? Governments everywhere subsidize public transport because it reduces traffic congestion and pollution relative to having millions of extra cars on the road. Metro is expensive. It can cost 6.50 one way to go somewhere on Metro at peak time. Removing those subsidies will cause low and middle income people to use Metro a lot less and drive more.

This.

Fares only produce 27% of DC Metro revenue. The other 73% is from grants a subsidies directly to the metro budget. The government is the largest issuer of free passes, which most agencies mandate, regardless of the ability to deduct. Is anyone on here employed by a private, for profit employer who gives passes? ?

Yes, and I know plenty of other people whose private employers issue Metrochek benefits too. Just because the government is the largest issuer of free passes, doesn't mean it's the only issuer. Public transport subsidies are good public policy. Firms that even a little environmentally conscious, or who have a lot of young employees who prefer to spend there time in public transit surfing on their phones rather than driving tend to issue them. Maybe you should get out of your bubble and meet some of them.

Not one has come forward on this board. Not one who works for a for profit. Don’t sock puppet at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Stop electing Republicans and you'll get some help. But we can't help you when you're intent on shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.

Because our country and all our states and localities have always been run by Republicans and those poor Democrats just haven't gotten a chance ... oh wait.

Huh? The economies of NY, CA, DC, NoVA, Seattle, Denver, and Boston are absolutely BOOMING. All are run by Dems. I'm not sure what your point is. Congress has been controlled by the GOP for nearly 8 years and they've done very little to help those who don't live in booming Democratic cities. So, if you "need help," either move to a Democratic city or elect more Democrats. But voting for the GOP will just make things more un-affordable for you.

IF WE elect more democrats, there will be more government jobs created, then we can all get a shot at those sweet deals.

Those "sweet deals" are actually earned parts of compensation packages. Do you also whine about military soldiers who get monthly housing stipends and fee-free Tricare coverage?

I thinks it’s great. No joke. I’d like a compensation package like federal employees, especially the health care.

Soldiers however, are only getting paid a small amount of salary on top of those benefits and some are risking their life. I don’t think they’re compensated enough quite frankly.

They get paid well for the job they do. My BIL's reenlistment bonus 18 months ago was nearly $80K tax free. His housing stipend pay for about 90% of his mortgage payment. He pays no PMI and they have an artificially low interest rate on their VA loan. Plus, his Tricare covers my sister and their two kids with zero dollars out-of-pocket for two complicated pregnancies. They have an extremely comfortable cradle-to-grave lifestyle.

Yes, they are sacrificing for their country. But I have friends who work for USAID who have been sexually assaulted while in rural areas. State Department members who miss the holidays with their family every year. Folks who work in DoD or Intel agencies that spend much of the year in hostile countries.

So it sickens me when I see people on DCUM bash "government workers." Many of us are legitimately sacrificing for the good of this country.

I’m not bashing. I’d like a job with good security and benefits. I already work holidays, overtime for no additional pay, go to scary neighborhoods for my employer, work with mentally unstable clients, have been threatened, have been sexually harassed on my job. You think jobs on the outside of the government have any different pitfalls?

All I can say to you is that I support your desire to get paid more for the hard work you do and to have safer working conditions. This is EXACTLY why workers formed labor unions. It would behoove you to consider organizing workers in your industry.

But tearing down "government workers" doesn't solve anything. In fact, it will end up making things worse for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tax bill eliminates the ability for employers to write off the transit and parking subsidies they give their employees. And without that incentive, you can pretty much guarantee that most employers will not hand them out.

I assume this will also worsen traffic as people start to drive instead of taking public transportation.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-gop-tax-bill-commuters-20171216-story.html

Did you people read this article? "Companies could still provide the parking and transit passes to employees, but they would no longer get the tax deduction. And employees who pay for their own transportation costs can still use pre-tax income."
If employers set up these ira type accounts employees are still paying with pre-tax income. That is ripping off everyone else. What's next? pre-tax lunch at work? Business clothes? This is all BS...

Are you really that stupid? Governments everywhere subsidize public transport because it reduces traffic congestion and pollution relative to having millions of extra cars on the road. Metro is expensive. It can cost 6.50 one way to go somewhere on Metro at peak time. Removing those subsidies will cause low and middle income people to use Metro a lot less and drive more.

This.

Fares only produce 27% of DC Metro revenue. The other 73% is from grants a subsidies directly to the metro budget. The government is the largest issuer of free passes, which most agencies mandate, regardless of the ability to deduct. Is anyone on here employed by a private, for profit employer who gives passes? ?

Yes, and I know plenty of other people whose private employers issue Metrochek benefits too. Just because the government is the largest issuer of free passes, doesn't mean it's the only issuer. Public transport subsidies are good public policy. Firms that even a little environmentally conscious, or who have a lot of young employees who prefer to spend there time in public transit surfing on their phones rather than driving tend to issue them. Maybe you should get out of your bubble and meet some of them.

Not one has come forward on this board. Not one who works for a for profit. Don’t sock puppet at this point.

Do you have magic powers so that you can see who is posting on this Board? If so, you should stop spending all your time posting here and do something useful with your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tax bill eliminates the ability for employers to write off the transit and parking subsidies they give their employees. And without that incentive, you can pretty much guarantee that most employers will not hand them out.

I assume this will also worsen traffic as people start to drive instead of taking public transportation.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-gop-tax-bill-commuters-20171216-story.html

Did you people read this article? "Companies could still provide the parking and transit passes to employees, but they would no longer get the tax deduction. And employees who pay for their own transportation costs can still use pre-tax income."
If employers set up these ira type accounts employees are still paying with pre-tax income. That is ripping off everyone else. What's next? pre-tax lunch at work? Business clothes? This is all BS...

Are you really that stupid? Governments everywhere subsidize public transport because it reduces traffic congestion and pollution relative to having millions of extra cars on the road. Metro is expensive. It can cost 6.50 one way to go somewhere on Metro at peak time. Removing those subsidies will cause low and middle income people to use Metro a lot less and drive more.

This.

Fares only produce 27% of DC Metro revenue. The other 73% is from grants a subsidies directly to the metro budget. The government is the largest issuer of free passes, which most agencies mandate, regardless of the ability to deduct. Is anyone on here employed by a private, for profit employer who gives passes? ?

Yes, and I know plenty of other people whose private employers issue Metrochek benefits too. Just because the government is the largest issuer of free passes, doesn't mean it's the only issuer. Public transport subsidies are good public policy. Firms that even a little environmentally conscious, or who have a lot of young employees who prefer to spend there time in public transit surfing on their phones rather than driving tend to issue them. Maybe you should get out of your bubble and meet some of them.

Not one has come forward on this board. Not one who works for a for profit. Don’t sock puppet at this point.

My wife works for a massive for-profit company here in DC. She gets transit benefits to use on Metro, the various regional bus systems, MARC, VRE, Lyft Line/Uber Pool, or costs related to running or participating a car pool. She gets a set amount per month that she can spend in any manner she wants so long as it relates to using a form of shared transportation.

[Anonymous]

Yes, your future depends on subsidies and handouts from others.

Maybe you should try a little pride and strive towards self-sufficiency. What a concept!



Clap, clap, clap. Bravo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Yep. And I was just at a hotel this weekend that had special lower rates for government employees, as so many hotels do. WTH? These people earn more than average with substantially better benefits, and companies are still under the impression these "poor" public service workers deserve special prices (which, like all subsidies, are made up by charging other people more)?

Dude. Are you really that clueless? This is to save taxpayers money and prevent waste. You are not supposed to use this rate on personal travel. Government employees and contractors are supposed to use this rate while traveling on government business. If one hotel is out of government rate rooms, you call the next until you find one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tax bill eliminates the ability for employers to write off the transit and parking subsidies they give their employees. And without that incentive, you can pretty much guarantee that most employers will not hand them out.

I assume this will also worsen traffic as people start to drive instead of taking public transportation.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-gop-tax-bill-commuters-20171216-story.html

Did you people read this article? "Companies could still provide the parking and transit passes to employees, but they would no longer get the tax deduction. And employees who pay for their own transportation costs can still use pre-tax income."
If employers set up these ira type accounts employees are still paying with pre-tax income. That is ripping off everyone else. What's next? pre-tax lunch at work? Business clothes? This is all BS...

Are you really that stupid? Governments everywhere subsidize public transport because it reduces traffic congestion and pollution relative to having millions of extra cars on the road. Metro is expensive. It can cost 6.50 one way to go somewhere on Metro at peak time. Removing those subsidies will cause low and middle income people to use Metro a lot less and drive more.

This.

Fares only produce 27% of DC Metro revenue. The other 73% is from grants a subsidies directly to the metro budget. The government is the largest issuer of free passes, which most agencies mandate, regardless of the ability to deduct. Is anyone on here employed by a private, for profit employer who gives passes? ?

Yes, and I know plenty of other people whose private employers issue Metrochek benefits too. Just because the government is the largest issuer of free passes, doesn't mean it's the only issuer. Public transport subsidies are good public policy. Firms that even a little environmentally conscious, or who have a lot of young employees who prefer to spend there time in public transit surfing on their phones rather than driving tend to issue them. Maybe you should get out of your bubble and meet some of them.

Not one has come forward on this board. Not one who works for a for profit. Don’t sock puppet at this point.

My wife and all of her co-workers fall into to non-governmeny worker category who receive transit benefits. Also:

As of Jan. 1, 2016, two major East Coast cities, New York City and Washington, D.C., will require employers with 20 or more employees to offer qualified pretax transportation benefits to their workers. San Francisco already has such a mandate in place, as do the nearby cities of Berkeley and Richmond and nine counties in the San Francisco Bay Area.

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/cities-transit-benefits.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Stop electing Republicans and you'll get some help. But we can't help you when you're intent on shooting yourself in the foot over and over again.

Because our country and all our states and localities have always been run by Republicans and those poor Democrats just haven't gotten a chance ... oh wait.

Huh? The economies of NY, CA, DC, NoVA, Seattle, Denver, and Boston are absolutely BOOMING. All are run by Dems. I'm not sure what your point is. Congress has been controlled by the GOP for nearly 8 years and they've done very little to help those who don't live in booming Democratic cities. So, if you "need help," either move to a Democratic city or elect more Democrats. But voting for the GOP will just make things more un-affordable for you.

IF WE elect more democrats, there will be more government jobs created, then we can all get a shot at those sweet deals.

Those "sweet deals" are actually earned parts of compensation packages. Do you also whine about military soldiers who get monthly housing stipends and fee-free Tricare coverage?

No they are honest me unlike the beauroucrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've heard that line about "pulling govt workers down to everyone else's level of misery." What you and other govt workers miss is that you are expecting (or demanding) that taxpayers provide their employees with more than they get themselves. (And yes, I get that you are a taxpayer too, but that's a completely illogical argument. I hope I don't have to explain why. It's exhausting.)

Yes. For example, when new federal employees got student loan forgiveness for taking a federal job. Meanwhile, those still looking for work and having trouble finding good jobs did not get it. Kind of ironic: get a job that enables you to afford to pay off your loan and you get loan forgiveness. Look for work, and no break.

Yep. And I was just at a hotel this weekend that had special lower rates for government employees, as so many hotels do. WTH? These people earn more than average with substantially better benefits, and companies are still under the impression these "poor" public service workers deserve special prices (which, like all subsidies, are made up by charging other people more)?

Dude. Are you really that clueless? This is to save taxpayers money and prevent waste. You are not supposed to use this rate on personal travel. Government employees and contractors are supposed to use this rate while traveling on government business. If one hotel is out of government rate rooms, you call the next until you find one.

Where does it say "You are not supposed to use the government rate on personal travel?" I have never seen a government regulation saying this, nor have i ever seen a hotel have a requirement for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Yes, your future depends on subsidies and handouts from others.

Maybe you should try a little pride and strive towards self-sufficiency. What a concept!

Clap, clap, clap. Bravo!

A handout? You mean like a paycheck?