Top DOJ official demoted - contacts with Trump dossier firm

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Interesting rant.
I would just like some of these conflicts and associations cleared up - explained - whatever - so we know that the Mueller investigation is indeed a legitimate search for the truth.
Too many questionable associations within government to ignore.

Something that people seem to be concerned about is that government people, at the FBI and DOJ, were involved with the dossier before the election and also after the election. The thing is, most of the head people at the FBI and DOJ were the head people last year and are the head people this year. Why the surprise? The FBI were the good guys, the head people at the FBI were the best people, Comey was the best director of the FBI. Now the FBI is questionable?

The article linked below is of course biased. But is it incorrect? If you were a Trump supporter, what would YOU make of it (sincerely)?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454543/mueller-investigation-too-many-anti-trump-coincidences

Yeah, that all sounds so bad. I wonder why Jr lied so many times about that meeting, I wonder why Flynn lied, I wonder why Papadopolous lied. I wonder why they all lied so many times if they didn't do anything wrong. It must be Mueller's fault somehow...

+1

Why are there actual indictments, you know, from a grand jury?
Why are there actual guilty pleas?
Why is there so much lying?

Think critically here. If there were no lying and no indictments and no guilty pleas, then I would certainly buy that this is a manufactured witch hunt. But the facts on the ground are simply not bearing that out.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Except that isn't what happened, so the rest of your assumptions fall flat, because your opening facts, that the Obama Administration was surveiling the opposition party during a national election.

Come up with a different set of facts and the resulting portfolio unfolds differently.

At the moment, there isn't one shred of truth or evidence that the Obama Administration was listening in on Trump Tower. None.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Exactly.

How’s it done in Russia?

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Anonymous wrote:Since the bias at the top of the DOJ is so apparent, and Comey's "findings" were rewritten to hide Hillary's criminal action (gross negligence), shouldn't this be re-opened? Especially after the tarmac meeting and the FBI "interview" where they kept no records and didn't put the liar under oath?

Should have had an independent counsel at the start.

Precisely.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Exactly.

No, NOT "exactly." Trump Jr., Flynn and others LIED, Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos are going to jail, those are facts that upset your little story. And Mueller keeps uncovering more and more about criminal wrongdoing by the Trump team. Obama and the FBI didn't force them to do the criminal things they did. Pull your head out of your ass, put the Breitbart down and come back to reality.

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Here is a non-exhaustive list of Trump ties to Russia:

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/941120497823215616

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Anonymous wrote:Comical that the right wing is acting as though Fusion GPS were ISIS or something. They want to shoot the messenger because they don't like the message. That's an obvious dodge and deflection. The issue here has always been and still is the message itself - the dossier. And the reason the right is getting so hysterical about Fusion GPS is because, with the revelations about Flynn, Papadopoulos and Manafort, the dossier is being more and more vindicated and proven to be substantively correct.

No - we have lots of questions about the dossier, the FBI, Fusion GPS, and the intersection between these.

1. Was the dossier used to acquire FISA warrants? The dossier, funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign - the opposition party?
2. Why did Ohr secretly meet with both Christopher Steele AND Fusion GPS? His colleagues were unaware of his involvement - was his supervisor? What role did his wife have in this whole scandal?
3. What role did Andrew McCabe play in this scandal? McCabe, whose wife ran for office a few years back and who received a substantial donation from McAuliffe.
4. Why has the FBI been stonewalling Congress WRT documentation?
5. Did Peter Strzok play a role in the Steele dossier?

These are just some of the questions. There are simply too many connections between the Steele dossier, government offices, and Mueller’s investigation that need to be answered.

Thank you for this.

Since the release of the text between Strzok and his mistress, add another question to the above........

6. Was the dodgy dossier the “insurance” that Strzok referred to?

It is appearing more and more that the need for this investigation was invented by the investigators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Exactly.

There's an article on the front page of the Post today. It's perhaps too advanced for your interest and skill,level, but give it a scan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Except that isn't what happened, so the rest of your assumptions fall flat, because your opening facts, that the Obama Administration was surveiling the opposition party during a national election.

Come up with a different set of facts and the resulting portfolio unfolds differently.

At the moment, there isn't one shred of truth or evidence that the Obama Administration was listening in on Trump Tower. None.

The FISA warrants were obtained in the summer of 2016. Russia investigation of an opposing party's candidate started in the summer of 2016 during the heat of the campaign. That's a fact. Your misdirection about quote and unquote "wiretap" doesn't change the fact that our government obtained FISA warrants to spy on American citizens associated with an opposing party's presidential campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Except that isn't what happened, so the rest of your assumptions fall flat, because your opening facts, that the Obama Administration was surveiling the opposition party during a national election.

Come up with a different set of facts and the resulting portfolio unfolds differently.

At the moment, there isn't one shred of truth or evidence that the Obama Administration was listening in on Trump Tower. None.

The FISA warrants were obtained in the summer of 2016. Russia investigation of an opposing party's candidate started in the summer of 2016 during the heat of the campaign. That's a fact. Your misdirection about quote and unquote "wiretap" doesn't change the fact that our government obtained FISA warrants to spy on American citizens associated with an opposing party's presidential campaign.

Yes, this is correct. I infer from your post that you prefer the ostrich approach to national security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. complete obfuscation and nonsense from the trump admin on this. Great. what happens next? we just call off the Mueller investigation and everyone goes home? trump continues to f*ck our country? too close for comfort right? probing of the finances, which would surely lead to guilt is too much right? all enabled by fox news loonies. what a world we live in. yellow journalism everywhere. propaganda still rules the day. ha we think we're such a first world country and then trump takes over and shows how f*cked up things are.

Only in a third world country, a ruling party will use its law enforcement power to surveil the opposition party's candidate during a national election. That's what Obama and his DOJ/FBI did. We had an election. Your party lost. Get over it and try it in 3 years. That's how it's done in a first world country.

Except that isn't what happened, so the rest of your assumptions fall flat, because your opening facts, that the Obama Administration was surveiling the opposition party during a national election.

Come up with a different set of facts and the resulting portfolio unfolds differently.

At the moment, there isn't one shred of truth or evidence that the Obama Administration was listening in on Trump Tower. None.

The FISA warrants were obtained in the summer of 2016. Russia investigation of an opposing party's candidate started in the summer of 2016 during the heat of the campaign. That's a fact. Your misdirection about quote and unquote "wiretap" doesn't change the fact that our government obtained FISA warrants to spy on American citizens associated with an opposing party's presidential campaign.

Yes, this is correct. I infer from your post that you prefer the ostrich approach to national security.

DP here. Ostrich approach?
I prefer that our government doesn’t invent a reason to spy on its citizens.
And, to think.........had Hillary won the election, we would know nothing about the extent to which some people have gone to discredit the duly elected president.

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The government didn't invent a reason.

There were people from our country who were caught by foreign intelligence acting as agents against the United States.

Take away the dossier. Flush it down the toilet. It has nothing to do with the FISA warrants, which were granted through regular, legal processes.

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So the FBI agents in question was also texting against Holder, Bernie and other dems.

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Anonymous wrote:So the FBI agents in question was also texting against Holder, Bernie and other dems.

Hmmm.... I don’t remember the special counsel involving Holder, Bernie and other dems.