How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??

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As an Iowan whose high school was 50% Hispanic, even I don't think Whitman is diverse.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

Could it be [shock] perhaps that people have different definitions as to what constitutes racial diversity?

Well, you can have whatever definition you want, but even niche doesn't agree with you.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

Could it be [shock] perhaps that people have different definitions as to what constitutes racial diversity?

Not possible. Per the insistent poster above, anyone who does not agree with her definition of diversity lacks common sense or is from Iowa.

You can go on living in your little bubble. But just don't tell anyone outside your little bubble that you think Wootton is diverse. They will probably look at you like you're from IA.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

Could it be [shock] perhaps that people have different definitions as to what constitutes racial diversity?

Not possible. Per the insistent poster above, anyone who does not agree with her definition of diversity lacks common sense or is from Iowa.

You can go on living in your little bubble. But just don't tell anyone outside your little bubble that you think Wootton is diverse. They will probably look at you like you're from IA.

NP here. You realize there's more than one poster responding to you here. I also think Wootton is diverse. Go ahead and say I'm from Iowa. I say you must have a difficult life being so closed to other people's opinions.

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Interesting how a thread on Whitman scores turned into a Wooten diversity thread.

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Correct. Such a school is biracial, not diverse--especially when the FARMS rate is <=10%

A distinction between "biracial" and "diverse", good grief. Biracial IS diverse.

Do you also consider Whitman to be "lily white" (something I often read on DCUM), even though 1 in 4 Whitman students is not white?

Diverse (adj.)
(b) of various kinds or forms; multiform.
Source:http://www.dictionary.com/browse/diverse

Biracial != multiracial
therefore, biracial != diverse.

QED.

Multi = more than one. Biracial is multiracial.

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You can go on living in your little bubble. But just don't tell anyone outside your little bubble that you think Wootton is diverse. They will probably look at you like you're from IA.

NP here. You realize there's more than one poster responding to you here. I also think Wootton is diverse. Go ahead and say I'm from Iowa. I say you must have a difficult life being so closed to other people's opinions.

I actually am from Iowa, and I think that Wootton is diverse in terms of the MCPS categories of white/Hispanic/black/Asian. In fact, there isn't a high school in MCPS that isn't diverse in terms of those categories -- though it is true that some are more diverse (for example, Clarksburg HS) and some are less diverse (for example, Poolesville HS).

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The point is that test scores correlate to SES of a school population. Whitman has a higher SES student body than many Mo Co schools, and yet its test scores and thus its GS score are low when the arguably should be higher. So does the school just really suck?

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You can go on living in your little bubble. But just don't tell anyone outside your little bubble that you think Wootton is diverse. They will probably look at you like you're from IA.

NP here. You realize there's more than one poster responding to you here. I also think Wootton is diverse. Go ahead and say I'm from Iowa. I say you must have a difficult life being so closed to other people's opinions.

I actually am from Iowa, and I think that Wootton is diverse in terms of the MCPS categories of white/Hispanic/black/Asian. In fact, there isn't a high school in MCPS that isn't diverse in terms of those categories -- though it is true that some are more diverse (for example, Clarksburg HS) and some are less diverse (for example, Poolesville HS).

What would it take for a school to not be diverse by your standards?

[Anonymous]

Ha, Whitman has the same score as Einstein!
Woot.
You can stop making fun of my neighborhood on the real estate forum. We are diverse AND have the same score as Whitman.

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You can go on living in your little bubble. But just don't tell anyone outside your little bubble that you think Wootton is diverse. They will probably look at you like you're from IA.

NP here. You realize there's more than one poster responding to you here. I also think Wootton is diverse. Go ahead and say I'm from Iowa. I say you must have a difficult life being so closed to other people's opinions.

I actually am from Iowa, and I think that Wootton is diverse in terms of the MCPS categories of white/Hispanic/black/Asian. In fact, there isn't a high school in MCPS that isn't diverse in terms of those categories -- though it is true that some are more diverse (for example, Clarksburg HS) and some are less diverse (for example, Poolesville HS).

What would it take for a school to not be diverse by your standards?

https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbhs

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You can go on living in your little bubble. But just don't tell anyone outside your little bubble that you think Wootton is diverse. They will probably look at you like you're from IA.

NP here. You realize there's more than one poster responding to you here. I also think Wootton is diverse. Go ahead and say I'm from Iowa. I say you must have a difficult life being so closed to other people's opinions.

I actually am from Iowa, and I think that Wootton is diverse in terms of the MCPS categories of white/Hispanic/black/Asian. In fact, there isn't a high school in MCPS that isn't diverse in terms of those categories -- though it is true that some are more diverse (for example, Clarksburg HS) and some are less diverse (for example, Poolesville HS).

What would it take for a school to not be diverse by your standards?

https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbhs

Nope..I saw a red head in the pictures...very diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:The point is that test scores correlate to SES of a school population. Whitman has a higher SES student body than many Mo Co schools, and yet its test scores and thus its GS score are low when the arguably should be higher. So does the school just really suck?

Weren't the test scores low one year which led to a precipitous drop from the previous ranking? It will be interesting to see what happens going forward.

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We have 10 ESOL teacher helpers and 4 Hispanic counselors, and a super high FARM ratio. I'm so glad my familia goes to a diverse, multi-cultural school. But I am a little worried about the test scores, teen pregnancy rates and falling graduation rates. Plus a lot of the new students end up topping out at age 21 and not graduating on time.

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I'm from Iowa. I learned all about diversity from watching professional sports, music videos and crime reports. The data is all there.