How is it possible that Walt Whitman high school has a score of 4 on greatschools.org??

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Correct. Such a school is biracial, not diverse--especially when the FARMS rate is <=10%

A distinction between "biracial" and "diverse", good grief. Biracial IS diverse.

Do you also consider Whitman to be "lily white" (something I often read on DCUM), even though 1 in 4 Whitman students is not white?

Diverse (adj.)
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Biracial != multiracial
therefore, biracial != diverse.

QED.

Wrong. Because there 6% of Wooten is black and 7% is Hispanic so Wooten is far more than biracial. Why don't you tell those students that they need to classify themselves as White or Asian because you've decided that nearly 15% of the school population is "insignificant" according to your narrow definition.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

PP here. I am actually Asian. Read through the post. In education, diversity does not mean cultural diversity. It means racial diversity. So yes, while there are variations within the Asian continent, in terms of a race, they are considered "Asian" - one race. What you are referring to is ethnicity. Not the same as racial diversity, which again, is what most people consider when speaking of diversity.

Again, Wootton is not a diverse HS in MCPS. Certainly, it is more diverse than Whitman, but it's still not considered a diverse school. Stop trying so hard.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

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Correct. Such a school is biracial, not diverse--especially when the FARMS rate is <=10%

A distinction between "biracial" and "diverse", good grief. Biracial IS diverse.

Do you also consider Whitman to be "lily white" (something I often read on DCUM), even though 1 in 4 Whitman students is not white?

Diverse (adj.)
(b) of various kinds or forms; multiform.
Source:http://www.dictionary.com/browse/diverse

Biracial != multiracial
therefore, biracial != diverse.

QED.

Wrong. Because there 6% of Wooten is black and 7% is Hispanic so Wooten is far more than biracial. Why don't you tell those students that they need to classify themselves as White or Asian because you've decided that nearly 15% of the school population is "insignificant" according to your narrow definition.

Maybe Wooten is diverse, but Wootton isn't. I could restate it as largely biracial. 6% and 7% are barely above the reportable minimum of 5%. These numbers are not at all representative of the diversity of the county as a whole. I remain correct.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

PP here. I am actually Asian. Read through the post. In education, diversity does not mean cultural diversity. It means racial diversity. So yes, while there are variations within the Asian continent, in terms of a race, they are considered "Asian" - one race. What you are referring to is ethnicity. Not the same as racial diversity, which again, is what most people consider when speaking of diversity.

Again, Wootton is not a diverse HS in MCPS. Certainly, it is more diverse than Whitman, but it's still not considered a diverse school. Stop trying so hard.

In the book of diversity, is it specifically written that Wooton is not diverse? Not sure why you're trying to impose your opinions on others when there are clearly many posters who do not agree with you.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

PP here. I am actually Asian. Read through the post. In education, diversity does not mean cultural diversity. It means racial diversity. So yes, while there are variations within the Asian continent, in terms of a race, they are considered "Asian" - one race. What you are referring to is ethnicity. Not the same as racial diversity, which again, is what most people consider when speaking of diversity.

Again, Wootton is not a diverse HS in MCPS. Certainly, it is more diverse than Whitman, but it's still not considered a diverse school. Stop trying so hard.

+100
I agree completely.
Wootton is not racially diverse.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

PP here. I am actually Asian. Read through the post. In education, diversity does not mean cultural diversity. It means racial diversity. So yes, while there are variations within the Asian continent, in terms of a race, they are considered "Asian" - one race. What you are referring to is ethnicity. Not the same as racial diversity, which again, is what most people consider when speaking of diversity.

Again, Wootton is not a diverse HS in MCPS. Certainly, it is more diverse than Whitman, but it's still not considered a diverse school. Stop trying so hard.

In the book of diversity, is it specifically written that Wooton is not diverse? Not sure why you're trying to impose your opinions on others when there are clearly many posters who do not agree with you.

Again, within MCPS, most would not consider Wootton to be a diverse school. I don't care if you personally think it is. You can go on living in your bubble. But by no measure would anyone with common sense consider Wootton to be a diverse school in MCPS.

Even niche ranking doesn't consider Wootton to be diverse.

https://www.niche.com/k12/rankings/public-high-schools/most-diverse/s/maryland/

RM is #12; Wootton #92. Sure, it's more diverse than Whitman, but Wootton is not considered a diverse school.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people in that district that care about education do not send their kids to public school. If you are a multi millionaire and you are too cheap to send your kid to private (or they are too dumb to get in) then do you really think the parents and kids care truly care about their grades. Nope.

It is a crappy school with self esteem issues and tons of peer pressure. No thanks

That have one of th dumbest posts I have ever seen. First, plenty of people zoned for Whitman are far from multi-millionaires. Second, many people who could send their kids to private school, choose to send them to public for a host of reasons that I have nothing to do with not valuing education.

I could afford to send my kids to private without it being a major hardship, although I am no where near wealthy enough that tuition would not be a major expense that would require some sacrifices in other areas. I believe my kids are getting a good education and I believe in the benefits of going to a neighborhood school. But as someone who took his own education very seriously (and who has reaped the rewards of doing so) I take my kids education quite seriously as do my neighbors (most with advanced degrees) who send kids to Whitman.

DP. I don't get it. It would not be a major hardship to send your kids to private school, and you are "no where wealthy enough that tuition would not be a major expense that would require some sacrifices in other areas." Aren't you contradicting yourself, how can it be no major hardship and a major expense at the same time?

There is a difference in my mind between major hardship and significant expense. Say you make $1M+ a year-tuition is practically an afterthought and really shouldn't impact what else you can do. Conversely, say you mak $250K. Tuition, especially for more than one kid, is going to be a major hardship (absent significant aid) that will likely require cutting back on retirement, vacations, mortgage amounts, etc. To make it work, it would have to be your number one priority financially.

But say you make 5-700k. You could afford to send 2 kids to private school and still save for retirement, vacation, etc. But, the ~$80k in tuition isn't irrelevant to your overall finances. It may impact how much you are saving outside of retirement, cut back a bit on vacation or car expenses, etc. Don't get me wrong, you should still have enough to live a very nice life after tuition payments, which is why I don't think they require a major hardship at that level. But you aren't wealthy enough that $80k after taxes each year for 12 years won't have an impact on your finances such that you have to think about whether private is worth it, particularly given the excellent public options.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

Could it be [shock] perhaps that people have different definitions as to what constitutes racial diversity?

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

Could it be [shock] perhaps that people have different definitions as to what constitutes racial diversity?

Not possible. Per the insistent poster above, anyone who does not agree with her definition of diversity lacks common sense or is from Iowa.

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You have reading comprehension skills and don't know what diversity means. Please note the bolded. Name one other HS in MCPS that has a higher % of Asian students. That was the point. 37% Asian is very high for this county considering Asians only makeup of something like 12% of the total population here.

And 6% Hispanic and 7% Black does not make a school diverse.

Look at the stats for RM. That is what a diverse school looks like.

Asian - 26%
Black - 16.5
Hispanic 23.3
White about 30

That's reductive. "Diversity" does not mean "percent of Hispanic and black students". It means diversity. Wootton HS is a diverse school (except socioeconomically). And this is true even though there are high schools in MCPS that are more diverse. Just like affluent people are affluent, even though there are people who have more money.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Wootton is not representative of MCPS as a whole, you'd be on much more solid ground.

In education terms, "diversity" means race and SES. As a PP stated, when you have a school that has almost 40% of two races respectively, and less than 10% of the other two races, that is not diverse.

Most people with common sense would not call Wootton "diverse" in any way shape or form. You could have a school that is 100% white, but have students from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. That school would be culturally diverse, but certainly not racially, and like I stated, in education, "diversity" <> cultural diversity; it means "racial diversity".

A school that is 46% A, 37% B, 7% C, 6% D, and 4% E is not diverse? I don't consider that common sense.

It is diverse. Go to Iowa and then tell me if Wootton is diverse....

Diversity is a relative thing. Compared with Iowa, Wootton is diverse. Within Montgomery county, it is not.

+1 That ^PP just doesn't get it. Perhaps that PP is from IA?

I'm a NP, and I'm from New York, and I don't get your "common sense reasoning." There's incredible diversity within the Asian population--which MCPS classifies as students with origins from the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, and Vietnam. They are not white people with yellowish or brownish skin. Wooton to me is diverse, certainly much more so than Whitman.

NP here and I agree with you.

+1 A school with those figures is diverse in my opinion. Others may disagree with me, but unlike the PP who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with her is from Iowa, I don't force my views on others--perhaps because I benefitted from attending a diverse school like Wootton.

+1 Wootton is diverse, having a population that is majority non-white.

SMH... that doesn't make it diverse. A HS with 90% Hispanics is also not considered diverse. A HS with 80% Asian is not diverse, either.

Racial diversity = as close to 25% of each racial category.

Could it be [shock] perhaps that people have different definitions as to what constitutes racial diversity?

It's a normative term. Maybe to you 99% white and 1% not white is doversirty. That doesn't mean you are right