Merging Deal and Hardy

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Anonymous wrote:Never. Gonna. Happen.

-- Hardy IB family who would love it, but seriously why would any IB Deal family or Deal feeder family be up for this...

I seriously don't get the Hardy IB community. You have a school fed exclusively by top performing elementary schools. No dead weight whatsoever and most as hard to get into OOB as Deal feeds. If you just enrolled in boundary you'd have a school superior to Deal with a much more manageable size.

But that means someone's gotta do it first. They gotta keep going to reduce the OOB and thus reduce the brown kids to make it safe for everyone to come on in. You also have a great school in Banneker that no white families look at. DC, neck and neck with Boston for being the most racist liberal city.

Yep, as the mom of an OOB Hardy grad, the bolded statement is really offensive. Yeah, if you could just get rid of kids like mine, your school would be sooooo much better. Nice to know what you think of my child.

there's nothing racist in that statement. Take the standardized scores alone and the entire feeder pattern for Hardy comprises the top performing schools in DC. By "dead weight" I only referred to low performing schools. Deal doesn't really have dead weight either. If you want to read into that it's your hang up.

Banneker is an excellent school but irrelevant to Hardy other than it's the tired favorite card in every DCUM race player hand. It's a selective application school and it's demographics are largely self selected.

^^ and to be clear I'm not talking about OOB students at all.

Didn't say you were racist. Said you were saying that the key to a superior performing school is enrolling in-boundary children. Since my child was OOB, it's pretty clear you think that she brought down the quality of the school. Well, thanks for that!

not sure how you possibly reach that conclusion.

I don't know how else you can interpret this statement: If you just enrolled in boundary you'd have a school superior to Deal -- Meaning that if the IB community enrolls, the school would be better than Deal and if the IB community enrolls that means there's less room for OOB students, so it must be the OOB students pulling down Hardy's quality. My kid was OOB so that means you think she sucked intellectually and made Hardy worse.

If that statement meant something else, please explain it to me.

that was specifically directed at ONE IB Hardy parent lamenting Hardy as a viable option which isn't favored by residents within the boundary to the extent of Deal. It was more "Be the change you want to see" than anything else. That has nothing to do with anyone else exercising established feeder rights or gaining space to avaible ES or MS seats no matter where they live. The schools educate the students enrolled. OOB has no bearing on performance. That wasn't a micro or macro aggression.

Again, Deal is 30% OOB despite the assumption otherwise. It's successful because it retains its high performing feeder schools, most of which consist of some level of OOB students. The Hardy ES feeders retain many IB students who then bail around MS.
Hardy offers OOB seats because a high number of feeder schools (including IB and OOB populations) bail before 6th. That's not the case for Deal. It's not even the case for Stuart Hobson which Hardy outperforms.

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Hardy's neighborhood is wealthier than Deal's. For at least two generations, a larger percentage of Hardy families never even considered pubic school.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy's neighborhood is wealthier than Deal's. For at least two generations, a larger percentage of Hardy families never even considered pubic school.

C'mon. Let's 'deal' with the situation as it is currently.

There are a lot of past dynamics - many raw emotions, many mis-stated 'facts' and pure out myths slung around about Hardy. Two generations ago, the school at that location was the Gordon Junior High School/Center (there are still some residents of The Glover who went there!! The Palisades wasn't nearly as wealthy an area -- and it is still not uniformly so -- many IB families used to be able to get into Deal, Stoddert's catchment hardly had any families with kids, etc etc etc.) It's silly to rehash the chickens and eggs situations of Hardy.

Right now, there's the reality of growing DCPS enrollment across the city, overcrowding at a number Deal/Wilson and many of the WOTP elementaries, the proliferation of charters and choice, changing boundaries/feeders (Eaton), families feeling displaced and forced out or closed out of options, and many other current issues.

There is common ground of people wanting to finding a pathway to a high performing school. And everyone wanting the best for their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy's neighborhood is wealthier than Deal's. For at least two generations, a larger percentage of Hardy families never even considered pubic school.

C'mon. Let's 'deal' with the situation as it is currently.

There are a lot of past dynamics - many raw emotions, many mis-stated 'facts' and pure out myths slung around about Hardy. Two generations ago, the school at that location was the Gordon Junior High School/Center (there are still some residents of The Glover who went there!! The Palisades wasn't nearly as wealthy an area -- and it is still not uniformly so -- many IB families used to be able to get into Deal, Stoddert's catchment hardly had any families with kids, etc etc etc.) It's silly to rehash the chickens and eggs situations of Hardy.

Right now, there's the reality of growing DCPS enrollment across the city, overcrowding at a number Deal/Wilson and many of the WOTP elementaries, the proliferation of charters and choice, changing boundaries/feeders (Eaton), families feeling displaced and forced out or closed out of options, and many other current issues.

There is common ground of people wanting to finding a pathway to a high performing school. And everyone wanting the best for their kids.

Well put. It's splitting hairs to compare the relative wealth of Chevy Chase and Forest Hills vs. Georgetown and Spring Valley. there are plenty of affluent and semi-affluent families willing to invest in public schools in the Wilson boundary, just as families EORCP choose private schools too.