Got a biglaw offer, but the pay seems low

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Anonymous wrote:if this is a real post, that offer will be rescinded in 3...2...1...

OP here. I doubt partners at white shoe firms sit around reading internet fora.

. They may not, but I do and was in a beach house with some. Six degrees of separation- if that OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Get this thread deleted ASAP. Don't take that offer, it is really low. I don't see you getting the $210K you are hoping for in the current market, but you don't have to take less than you would make in Government. Seriously, at my agency we have people 3-4 years out of school who make about 90 K and we work about 40 hours a week, and up to 2 days a week from home!

What's a good/best gov. agency/dept. for a young JD? (My daughter is a 1L.)

This depends on what she's studying, what internships she lands in between, and where she wants to end up. I think DoJ Honors Program is probably the gold standard for a generalist, with criminal more prestigious than civil. But CFPB is supposed to be a great place to work, and SEC pays top dollar.

CFPB is a terrible place to work. SEC is nearly impossible to get into. The other federal financial regulators (OCC, FDIC, Fed, NCUA) are all good and pay more than the rest of the govt.

[Anonymous]

$90k sounds like a really good starting salary to me! I don't understand why this post has been so controversial, but I guess y'all are a bunch of lawyers after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$90k sounds like a really good starting salary to me! I don't understand why this post has been so controversial, but I guess y'all are a bunch of lawyers after all.

+1

[Anonymous]

OP sounds a bit clueless and needs to do more research on WEMED. It's not a standard big law firm. It's insurance defense and pays nowhere close to big law salaries. It's competition for hiring are essentially small to mid size firms also doing insurance defense. Plus, you need to research the work climate and find comments about what the offices are like. Expect a grist mill with a revolving door. It's fine for a couple years and then move on.

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what is a grist mill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

[Anonymous]

well what is it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

- CHILL THE F OUT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gristmill

- NP, not a millennial, and still didn't know what it was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

- CHILL THE F OUT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gristmill

- NP, not a millennial, and still didn't know what it was.

It is a metaphor used as a pejorative to describe certain law firms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

- CHILL THE F OUT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gristmill

- NP, not a millennial, and still didn't know what it was.

It is a metaphor used as a pejorative to describe certain law firms.

I thought it was a typo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

- CHILL THE F OUT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gristmill

- NP, not a millennial, and still didn't know what it was.

It is a metaphor used as a pejorative to describe certain law firms.

Not just law firms. It's a term of general use. Same as sweat shop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

- CHILL THE F OUT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gristmill

- NP, not a millennial, and still didn't know what it was.

It is a metaphor used as a pejorative to describe certain law firms.

Not just law firms. It's a term of general use. Same as sweat shop.

Yes, similar, but the image of a young associate sweating is not as affecting as imaging her soul being crushed like grain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what is a grist mill?

OMFG! Does anyone really not know anything these days? I think millennials must only read on their phones.

- CHILL THE F OUT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gristmill

- NP, not a millennial, and still didn't know what it was.

It is a metaphor used as a pejorative to describe certain law firms.

Not just law firms. It's a term of general use. Same as sweat shop.

Yes, similar, but the image of a young associate sweating is not as affecting as imaging her soul being crushed like grain.

quickly apologizing for the typo before DCUM spelling police get chance to berate me (imaging = imagining).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a Catholic grad who has worked for the government and big law and as in house council. There's no reason to think you can't have a great job.

So you know someone who graduated in the top 10% (~20 out of about 170) and was on law review! Seems like quite the gamble.

I went to Catholic and graduated in the mid-2000s, and I am in-house counsel at a very well-respected large company based in DC. I graduated in the middle to the bottom of my class. Most of my friends are doing well -- one of my closest friends is SVP of a bank and another is a partner at a big law firm in DC. Granted, I graduated in one of the last years where the market for attorneys was actually good, so the quality of graduates was probably higher there than it is now.

You are part of the problem. Next time I run into a Catholic grad on the doc review circuit I'll let you know.

I am part of the problem? Because I don't fit your "all Catholic grads suck" narrative? In every law school in any given year there will be students who go on to be successful, regardless of where they went to school and where they graduated in their class. I think what is important is that prospective law students are provided complete and accurate employment statistics BEFORE going to law school, not ones that have been skewed by career services. Over the last few years the ABA has cracked down on misleading employment statistics, and schools have been forced to publish more accurate employment figures, which is a good thing, because now law students can only blame themselves if they take on massive debt to go to a law school with dismal employment statistics.