Coup attempt in Turkey

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[Post New]07/15/2016 21:49
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Anonymous
I will not be surprised if Erdogan somehow orchestrated the whole,thing to finally shut down secular voices. He will garner major support after the coup is quelled.
[Post New]07/15/2016 21:51
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jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I have seen zero evidence that is happening. And if its the exiled former Erdogan ally Gulen (don't know a lot about him but an Islamist power play?) behind this, then whatever. Let them fight this out. I'm with ya. If it's secular forces that wish to restore true democracy, I pray for them.


Turn on a TV and get out of your denial. MSNBC is currently showing troops firing into the crowds while jets fly overhead.
[Post New]07/15/2016 21:52
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Anonymous
On Msnbc. see nothing like this.
[Post New]07/15/2016 21:53
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Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stability and peace in this part of the world is a pretty good deal, and the U.S. government for years has assessed rulers based on how enthusiastically they play ball with the U.S., not on how democratically they came or stayed in power. Exhibit 1: Every country in the Persian Gulf.


Yeah, how has that been working out? That is the hypocrisy of the US. Talk about democracy but support any dictator that will play ball. Then, act shocked when the people in the area reject our so-called "values".

The putschists are shooting civilians in the street. There are posters here actually supporting that in the name of, I don't know what, Ataturk?


Because you are an idiot. And you're right, you don't know what.. Ataturk? Total Apologist you.


Since I'm an idiot, please explain to me why you support shooting civilians in the street? What is the cause that you think justifies that?


Ergodan is using the civilians he called out to support him as meat shields. They are in the street dead. It's all over Twitter & FB. He's got the police in his pocket. He let the people come out to support him knowing the military would fire on them. There is link after link & photo after photo of gruesome photos. It's terrible.
[Post New]07/15/2016 21:54
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Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have seen zero evidence that is happening. And if its the exiled former Erdogan ally Gulen (don't know a lot about him but an Islamist power play?) behind this, then whatever. Let them fight this out. I'm with ya. If it's secular forces that wish to restore true democracy, I pray for them.


Turn on a TV and get out of your denial. MSNBC is currently showing troops firing into the crowds while jets fly overhead.


Don't see Anything on MSNBC about troops firing into crowds.
[Post New]07/15/2016 21:59
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Anonymous
If it's Erdogan vs. Gullen - typical Russian Rev, bloodletting-- let them fight it out. I thought Turkey actually had a shot. Sorry Ataturk. Sorry Turkey,
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:00
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jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have seen zero evidence that is happening. And if its the exiled former Erdogan ally Gulen (don't know a lot about him but an Islamist power play?) behind this, then whatever. Let them fight this out. I'm with ya. If it's secular forces that wish to restore true democracy, I pray for them.


Turn on a TV and get out of your denial. MSNBC is currently showing troops firing into the crowds while jets fly overhead.


Don't see Anything on MSNBC about troops firing into crowds.


I just watched it. It was in Ankara. I have no idea why you missed it. Read the post just above yours where the poster says "There is link after link & photo after photo of gruesome photos".

[Post New]07/15/2016 22:01
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Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have seen zero evidence that is happening. And if its the exiled former Erdogan ally Gulen (don't know a lot about him but an Islamist power play?) behind this, then whatever. Let them fight this out. I'm with ya. If it's secular forces that wish to restore true democracy, I pray for them.


Turn on a TV and get out of your denial. MSNBC is currently showing troops firing into the crowds while jets fly overhead.


Don't see Anything on MSNBC about troops firing into crowds.


I just watched it. It was in Ankara. I have no idea why you missed it. Read the post just above yours where the poster says "There is link after link & photo after photo of gruesome photos".


Where is the link?
Sounds like two Islamists fighting it out. OK . I agree the known element is better than unknown, and both are horrid.
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:03
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jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have seen zero evidence that is happening. And if its the exiled former Erdogan ally Gulen (don't know a lot about him but an Islamist power play?) behind this, then whatever. Let them fight this out. I'm with ya. If it's secular forces that wish to restore true democracy, I pray for them.


Turn on a TV and get out of your denial. MSNBC is currently showing troops firing into the crowds while jets fly overhead.


Don't see Anything on MSNBC about troops firing into crowds.


I just watched it. It was in Ankara. I have no idea why you missed it. Read the post just above yours where the poster says "There is link after link & photo after photo of gruesome photos".


Where is the link?
Sounds like two Islamists fighting it out. OK . I agree the known element is better than unknown, and both are horrid.


TV shows don't have links. But, here is one video:

https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/754091488678711297

[Post New]07/15/2016 22:10
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I will not be surprised if Erdogan somehow orchestrated the whole,thing to finally shut down secular voices. He will garner major support after the coup is quelled.

This is where I am.
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:11
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Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have seen zero evidence that is happening. And if its the exiled former Erdogan ally Gulen (don't know a lot about him but an Islamist power play?) behind this, then whatever. Let them fight this out. I'm with ya. If it's secular forces that wish to restore true democracy, I pray for them.


Turn on a TV and get out of your denial. MSNBC is currently showing troops firing into the crowds while jets fly overhead.


Don't see Anything on MSNBC about troops firing into crowds.


I just watched it. It was in Ankara. I have no idea why you missed it. Read the post just above yours where the poster says "There is link after link & photo after photo of gruesome photos".


Where is the link?
Sounds like two Islamists fighting it out. OK . I agree the known element is better than unknown, and both are horrid.


TV shows don't have links. But, here is one video:

https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/754091488678711297



Thank you. The world is going to hell and Obama's 8 years of foreign policy are a total fail. Who to support? Isolationist Trump (reminds me of Obama). Or Hawk Hillary (so cynical and corrupt). Interesting conundrum. I am sorry Ataturk. Your dream is dying.
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:13
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Anonymous
Ugh. Watch Twitter or FB not CNN.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de9_1468623816

https://twitter.com/ask1907com/status/754100467190394880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://www.facebook.com/muslu.apo.5/videos/10206802027074835/

EDIT: VERY GRAPHIC!!!
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:19
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Anonymous
What's clear to me is the Islamic world is imploding. But feel free to continue backing 'someone'.

Rotten to the core.
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:22
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Anonymous
Well, 130 Soldiers arrested (aka soon to be executed). 1 General executed. Slowly turning into a war zone as the sun rises. I think the military realizes they are fucked if they lose so they are started to war.

My grandfather is from Ukraine & Turkey so this makes me so sad.
[Post New]07/15/2016 22:22
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Anonymous
No longer worried about Ataturk (you and the president convinced me otherwise)

http://www.metrolyrics.com/rotten-to-the-core-lyrics-descendants-cast.html


"They say I'm trouble
They say I'm bad
They say I'm evil
And that makes me glad

A dirty no-good
Down to the bone
Your worst nightmare
Can't take me home

So I got some mischief
In my blood
Can you blame me?
I never got no love

They think I'm callous
A low-life hood
I feel so useless
Misunderstood

Mirror, mirror on the wall
Who's the baddest of them all?
Welcome to my wicked world, wicked world

I'm rotten to the core, core
Rotten to the core
I'm rotten to the core, core
Who could ask for more?
I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door
I'm rotten to the, I'm rotten to the
I'm rotten to the core

Call me a schemer
Call me a freak
How can you say that?
I'm just... Unique!

What, me? A traitor?
Ain't got your back?
Oh, we're not friends
What's up with that?

So I'm a misfit
So I'm a flirt
I broke your heart?
I made you hurt?

The past is past
Forgive, forget
The truth is
You ain't seen nothing yet

Mirror, mirror on the wall
Who's the baddest of them all?
Welcome to my wicked world, wicked world

I'm rotten to the core, core
Rotten to the core
I'm rotten to the core, core
Who could ask for more?
I'm nothing like the kid next, like the kid next door
I'm rotten to the, I'm rotten to the
I'm rotten to the core"

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