Elaine or Elyse ? Plus name poaching?

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Anonymous wrote:Op, did you choose the names first and tell them to your sister only for her to steal them? Otherwise, I don't understand how you can think it is okay to lift BOTH of your niece's names - each unusual and clearly the product of considerable thought by your sister. Especially because you are not close to her, everyone will always think you actually are so crazy and lacking in perspective that you turned the occasion of your daughter's birth into a chance to spite your sister.

I think this is a troll thread, but if you are not a troll then you need therapy.



OP here I've liked the names since I was 10 years old. I actually still have the little story I wrote called " Margaux and the Dolphins" It's the only names I've every really liked. When my sister was pregnant I purposely said nothing because I didn't want her to use them. I was pretty upset she used both names I liked, but I couldn't do anything because she got pregnant first.

I'm not spiting anyone. I've always liked those name, and I don't see a good reason why I should have to use names I don't really like just because my sister used them first. If she wants to have a tantrum about it she can.


Fine, OP. In that case, just give your daughter the same name as your niece and consider cutting all ties w/ your sister as well so you don't have to deal w/ her anymore since you hate her so much.'

A lot of posters posted thoughtful suggestions of lovely names but it seems that you already have your mind made up so I'm wondering why you posed the question in the first place unless you just wanted to argue w/ people.


I don't want to argue with people. Some pps suggested some names that are okay like Eliza and Noelle but my husband doesn't like those. I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm trying to explain things, but some people came in here and decided to be nasty and attack me. I'm not going to allow people to have a go at me without giving it back.


There were tons of names listed here as suggestions, though, but you don't respond to that. You only respond to the nastiness to "defend yourself" instead of taking to heart some of the thoughtful and helpful suggestions made here and ignoring the haters. There are always haters on these threads...try to find the posts that are trying to be helpful and kind and focus on those instead.

I find it very hard to believe that you and your husband truly can't agree on a single other name that you like. It really seems like you are just trying to be a contrarian and make this as difficult as possible. There is no perfect name but there are hundreds of nice ones.
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Bahahahaha
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Wait. So your sister named her child Margaux Elise. And you never told her you liked those names? And those are the only two names that you like? Impossible.
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Anonymous wrote:Margaret
Eliza
Rachel
Petra
Eileen
Ghislaine
Adair
Paulette
Myrna
Carolyn
Noor
Adelaide
Diana

Here is a list off the top of my head of names that have no theme. You do not need therapy, but you do need some perspective. You do not like either of these names, you want to piss off your sister. And I get that, I have a problematic sister relationship, too. But all you are doing by obsessing over her daughter's name is strengthening the problems. So let go. You can't use either name.


Nah, she hates her sister so much that she can't even focus on the kid she is carrying and how she deserves better than to be a poor man's version of her cousin. That is batshit crazy. OP needs help. I bet her sister isn't even thinking of her. Nutty obsessions like OP's are always one sided. Sad.



OP here if you think that you are probably the bitch older sister. You and all the other nasty bitches in this thread.


We're not "nasty bitches," OP. We're telling you, from outside the sibling relationship, that you cannot use both names. That will look to everyone, but especially your "bitch older sister," like you are a complete nut. You and DH go to the library, get the Baby Name Wizard, both make lists and figure out two names you can both like/let grow on you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, did you choose the names first and tell them to your sister only for her to steal them? Otherwise, I don't understand how you can think it is okay to lift BOTH of your niece's names - each unusual and clearly the product of considerable thought by your sister. Especially because you are not close to her, everyone will always think you actually are so crazy and lacking in perspective that you turned the occasion of your daughter's birth into a chance to spite your sister.

I think this is a troll thread, but if you are not a troll then you need therapy.



OP here I've liked the names since I was 10 years old. I actually still have the little story I wrote called " Margaux and the Dolphins" It's the only names I've every really liked. When my sister was pregnant I purposely said nothing because I didn't want her to use them. I was pretty upset she used both names I liked, but I couldn't do anything because she got pregnant first.

I'm not spiting anyone. I've always liked those name, and I don't see a good reason why I should have to use names I don't really like just because my sister used them first. If she wants to have a tantrum about it she can.


Fine, OP. In that case, just give your daughter the same name as your niece and consider cutting all ties w/ your sister as well so you don't have to deal w/ her anymore since you hate her so much.'

A lot of posters posted thoughtful suggestions of lovely names but it seems that you already have your mind made up so I'm wondering why you posed the question in the first place unless you just wanted to argue w/ people.


I don't want to argue with people. Some pps suggested some names that are okay like Eliza and Noelle but my husband doesn't like those. I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm trying to explain things, but some people came in here and decided to be nasty and attack me. I'm not going to allow people to have a go at me without giving it back.


There were tons of names listed here as suggestions, though, but you don't respond to that. You only respond to the nastiness to "defend yourself" instead of taking to heart some of the thoughtful and helpful suggestions made here and ignoring the haters. There are always haters on these threads...try to find the posts that are trying to be helpful and kind and focus on those instead.

I find it very hard to believe that you and your husband truly can't agree on a single other name that you like. It really seems like you are just trying to be a contrarian and make this as difficult as possible. There is no perfect name but there are hundreds of nice ones.


I don't like any of the lists pps posted.

I saw two pps mention Eliza and Noelle which I liked. NoelleI was concerned because it's a Christmas name, but it doesn't matter because my husband doesn't like those names.
i can respond to who I want to.
Anonymous
Team Sister!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Margaret
Eliza
Rachel
Petra
Eileen
Ghislaine
Adair
Paulette
Myrna
Carolyn
Noor
Adelaide
Diana

Here is a list off the top of my head of names that have no theme. You do not need therapy, but you do need some perspective. You do not like either of these names, you want to piss off your sister. And I get that, I have a problematic sister relationship, too. But all you are doing by obsessing over her daughter's name is strengthening the problems. So let go. You can't use either name.


Nah, she hates her sister so much that she can't even focus on the kid she is carrying and how she deserves better than to be a poor man's version of her cousin. That is batshit crazy. OP needs help. I bet her sister isn't even thinking of her. Nutty obsessions like OP's are always one sided. Sad.



OP here if you think that you are probably the bitch older sister. You and all the other nasty bitches in this thread.


We're not "nasty bitches," OP. We're telling you, from outside the sibling relationship, that you cannot use both names. That will look to everyone, but especially your "bitch older sister," like you are a complete nut. You and DH go to the library, get the Baby Name Wizard, both make lists and figure out two names you can both like/let grow on you.


I don't want a name that will "grow on me" I want a name I love for my daughter.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I consider calling someone you don't know a crazy bitch just because you don't like or understand their perspective to be nasty bitch behavior.
Anonymous
How about Elena? Similar to Elaine, but prettier/less Seinfeld-y.

You'll never use the middle name, so the aesthetics don't matter as much. Google says Margeaux means pearl. How about Elena Pearl?
Anonymous
This is a troll thread.

OP overplayed her hand when she claimed to have liked since childhood the same two names that her sister chose over a decade later for her niece. Except she didn't tell her sister the names, so we are to believe they both coincidentally chose on the same two random, oddly-spelled names.

Please.

Troll better.
Anonymous
Hi, Op

I think you should keep the first name Margaux and give your daughter a different middle name. Perhaps if you have another daughter you can use the Elise/Elyse name. Do you like your maiden name? Maybe that would work as a middle name. My sister is named after our cousin and nobody ever said anything. It was even spelled the same unusual way.

Good luck and congratulations!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is a troll thread.

OP overplayed her hand when she claimed to have liked since childhood the same two names that her sister chose over a decade later for her niece. Except she didn't tell her sister the names, so we are to believe they both coincidentally chose on the same two random, oddly-spelled names.

Please.

Troll better.



I actually still have the paper along with the dozens of other stories and drawings I wrote as a kid. It's what I did as a child.
Anonymous
Complete troll...stealing TWO ugly names from her "bitch sister".

Funny though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hi, Op

I think you should keep the first name Margaux and give your daughter a different middle name. Perhaps if you have another daughter you can use the Elise/Elyse name. Do you like your maiden name? Maybe that would work as a middle name. My sister is named after our cousin and nobody ever said anything. It was even spelled the same unusual way.

Good luck and congratulations!


I'm not naming her after her cousin. I just like the name. I don't think my maiden name is an appropriate name even for a middle name. I doubt we will have more children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a troll thread.

OP overplayed her hand when she claimed to have liked since childhood the same two names that her sister chose over a decade later for her niece. Except she didn't tell her sister the names, so we are to believe they both coincidentally chose on the same two random, oddly-spelled names.

Please.

Troll better.



I actually still have the paper along with the dozens of other stories and drawings I wrote as a kid. It's what I did as a child.


Your child is the one who will suffer here, not your "bitch older sister".

Honestly, OP, try to put yourself in your daughter's shoes. Imagine having a name that was enmeshed in so much tension and family drama. Ugh. You really need to let it go.

But, it's clear that you will not, so good luck...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op, did you choose the names first and tell them to your sister only for her to steal them? Otherwise, I don't understand how you can think it is okay to lift BOTH of your niece's names - each unusual and clearly the product of considerable thought by your sister. Especially because you are not close to her, everyone will always think you actually are so crazy and lacking in perspective that you turned the occasion of your daughter's birth into a chance to spite your sister.

I think this is a troll thread, but if you are not a troll then you need therapy.



OP here I've liked the names since I was 10 years old. I actually still have the little story I wrote called " Margaux and the Dolphins" It's the only names I've every really liked. When my sister was pregnant I purposely said nothing because I didn't want her to use them. I was pretty upset she used both names I liked, but I couldn't do anything because she got pregnant first.

I'm not spiting anyone. I've always liked those name, and I don't see a good reason why I should have to use names I don't really like just because my sister used them first. If she wants to have a tantrum about it she can.


Fine, OP. In that case, just give your daughter the same name as your niece and consider cutting all ties w/ your sister as well so you don't have to deal w/ her anymore since you hate her so much.'

A lot of posters posted thoughtful suggestions of lovely names but it seems that you already have your mind made up so I'm wondering why you posed the question in the first place unless you just wanted to argue w/ people.


I don't want to argue with people. Some pps suggested some names that are okay like Eliza and Noelle but my husband doesn't like those. I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm trying to explain things, but some people came in here and decided to be nasty and attack me. I'm not going to allow people to have a go at me without giving it back.


There were tons of names listed here as suggestions, though, but you don't respond to that. You only respond to the nastiness to "defend yourself" instead of taking to heart some of the thoughtful and helpful suggestions made here and ignoring the haters. There are always haters on these threads...try to find the posts that are trying to be helpful and kind and focus on those instead.

I find it very hard to believe that you and your husband truly can't agree on a single other name that you like. It really seems like you are just trying to be a contrarian and make this as difficult as possible. There is no perfect name but there are hundreds of nice ones.


I don't like any of the lists pps posted.

I saw two pps mention Eliza and Noelle which I liked. NoelleI was concerned because it's a Christmas name, but it doesn't matter because my husband doesn't like those names.
i can respond to who I want to.


You sound like an obstinate, stubborn, unreasonable person. But for the sake of your daughter-to-be, I hope you can find a name you like that isn't also the name of the daughter of someone you despise, because that would just be so unfortunate for your daughter. Think of it from your daughter's perspective.
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