Prepping for entry into AAP

[Anonymous]

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?

Except for the rare crank on this board, it's not. Better question might be why it's so hard to believe that kids whose parents "prepped" them can do just as well in AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?

Except for the rare crank on this board, it's not. Better question might be why it's so hard to believe that kids whose parents "prepped" them can do just as well in AAP.

In the current AAP? Any kid propped up through a standardized test can get in.

[Anonymous]

pp here - one teacher called DD an intrinsic learner. We don't have to provide any type of help or motivation for her to learn new concepts. DC taught herself to read, we provided books like every parent, but within about 2 weeks when she was 3 we noticed she started fluently reading bob books, so we gave her level 1 books and she goes through books like water. Read the magic treehouse series on her own accord the summer after K. Math is the same way.

The aap program is not challenging for her from what I can see. HW gets done in after school care and I look at it but there is rarely ever a problem wrong. I've tried to offer help to study for tests but she just says - we went over it in class so I'm good - and rarely gets a wrong answer on a test. She does a lot of "learning" on her own outside of school.

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?

Sounds like DD is ready for MIT. No need for hard work and prep. There are no challenges remaining. Perhaps even MIT will not challenge her. What to do? Just keep prepping...read voraciously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

pp here - one teacher called DD an intrinsic learner. We don't have to provide any type of help or motivation for her to learn new concepts. DC taught herself to read, we provided books like every parent, but within about 2 weeks when she was 3 we noticed she started fluently reading bob books, so we gave her level 1 books and she goes through books like water. Read the magic treehouse series on her own accord the summer after K. Math is the same way.

The aap program is not challenging for her from what I can see. HW gets done in after school care and I look at it but there is rarely ever a problem wrong. I've tried to offer help to study for tests but she just says - we went over it in class so I'm good - and rarely gets a wrong answer on a test. She does a lot of "learning" on her own outside of school.

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?

You have her enrolled in the wrong place. The advanced program is not for your child. You should put in a request to have her skip a grade. No need for AAP, she does not belong there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

pp here - one teacher called DD an intrinsic learner. We don't have to provide any type of help or motivation for her to learn new concepts. DC taught herself to read, we provided books like every parent, but within about 2 weeks when she was 3 we noticed she started fluently reading bob books, so we gave her level 1 books and she goes through books like water. Read the magic treehouse series on her own accord the summer after K. Math is the same way.

The aap program is not challenging for her from what I can see. HW gets done in after school care and I look at it but there is rarely ever a problem wrong. I've tried to offer help to study for tests but she just says - we went over it in class so I'm good - and rarely gets a wrong answer on a test. She does a lot of "learning" on her own outside of school.

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?

You have her enrolled in the wrong place. The advanced program is not for your child. You should put in a request to have her skip a grade. No need for AAP, she does not belong there.

Not pp. I am not a proponent of redshirting but if I were I'd make the argument that she should be able to keep her child in the grade where she is with emotional peers. Isn't that why redshirting parents always claim their children need to be held back? Immaturity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A naturally gifted and elite athlete that works hard at their craft recognizes that test prep is not limited to paying for a 2-week athletic training camp with the VISA card. This gifted athlete isn't as disingenous as many here who want to disguise the efforts and sweat equity of their children headed to TJ by claiming this success was due to a hearty breakfast, no test prep whatsoever, and the appointed collision of sperm and egg in your high fidelity fallopian tubes.

The problem is there are certain parents here who want a special gifted recognition for their kids, but refuse to acknowledge that there are quite a few similar and many better gifted kids in the public school system. They want that meritorious recognition upfront for their kids but the school system refuses to grant that recognition unless they child competes with other gifted kids. Frustration with this competitive environment, they take it out on those other committed parents by accusing them of being pushy and promoting prepping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A naturally gifted and elite athlete that works hard at their craft recognizes that test prep is not limited to paying for a 2-week athletic training camp with the VISA card. This gifted athlete isn't as disingenous as many here who want to disguise the efforts and sweat equity of their children headed to TJ by claiming this success was due to a hearty breakfast, no test prep whatsoever, and the appointed collision of sperm and egg in your high fidelity fallopian tubes.

The problem is there are certain parents here who want a special gifted recognition for their kids, but refuse to acknowledge that there are quite a few similar and many better gifted kids in the public school system. They want that meritorious recognition upfront for their kids but the school system refuses to grant that recognition unless they child competes with other gifted kids. Frustration with this competitive environment, they take it out on those other committed parents by accusing them of being pushy and promoting prepping.

+1
Some parents THINK their children are gifted. But there are actually much more gifted kids, much more so than what these parents have seen.

[Anonymous]

Many parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, they simply want their children to be in the classroom that is best suited for them especially when the regular classroom does not meet their needs. Education is not about competition; it is about each child learning as much as they are able to each year.

Most parents are not looking for any sort of meritorious recognition, they simply want their child to be learning how to learn and to be excited about learning. Education is ongoing throughout life and what happens in the elementary school classrooms can make a difference. Since not all children learn the same way, they will all have a better outcome if they are in classrooms that are best suited for the way they each learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, they simply want their children to be in the classroom that is best suited for them especially when the regular classroom does not meet their needs. Education is not about competition; it is about each child learning as much as they are able to each year.

Most parents are not looking for any sort of meritorious recognition, they simply want their child to be learning how to learn and to be excited about learning. Education is ongoing throughout life and what happens in the elementary school classrooms can make a difference. Since not all children learn the same way, they will all have a better outcome if they are in classrooms that are best suited for the way they each learn.

If parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, then they should not be enrolling their kids in a public school system let alone an advanced program with limited capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, they simply want their children to be in the classroom that is best suited for them especially when the regular classroom does not meet their needs. Education is not about competition; it is about each child learning as much as they are able to each year.

Most parents are not looking for any sort of meritorious recognition, they simply want their child to be learning how to learn and to be excited about learning. Education is ongoing throughout life and what happens in the elementary school classrooms can make a difference. Since not all children learn the same way, they will all have a better outcome if they are in classrooms that are best suited for the way they each learn.

If parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, then they should not be enrolling their kids in a public school system let alone an advanced program with limited capacity.

Except my child's success does not require your child to fail. I hate people like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, they simply want their children to be in the classroom that is best suited for them especially when the regular classroom does not meet their needs. Education is not about competition; it is about each child learning as much as they are able to each year.

Most parents are not looking for any sort of meritorious recognition, they simply want their child to be learning how to learn and to be excited about learning. Education is ongoing throughout life and what happens in the elementary school classrooms can make a difference. Since not all children learn the same way, they will all have a better outcome if they are in classrooms that are best suited for the way they each learn.

If parents are not interested in seeing their children compete with other children, then they should not be enrolling their kids in a public school system let alone an advanced program with limited capacity.

Public school is not about competition and pushing other kids out of the way. Public schools are meant to educate every child. In FCPS, they make an effort to place kids in the classrooms that are best suited for the way they learn.

My kids have been taught to always do their own best and work hard. The point is not to get ahead of others but to work to the best of your ability. Long-term success comes to those who learn because they love to learn, not as a means of getting ahead of others. And when I say long-term success, I mean lifetime, as in how you will feel when you are eighty or ninety about the way you lived your life and how you treated others.

[Anonymous]

One of our kids' AAP teachers told me that there are plenty of test-prepped kids put into AAP who struggle with the pace and end up with tutors. And here I'd been thinking that AAP was not enough for many of these kids and the pace was the same and the material not that much more in depth.

Anyway, she had seen it through her teaching years and thus did not prep her kids and they were not in AAP. We seem to have lots of teachers in our schools who know better and let the chips fall where they may when it comes to their own kids and testing for AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of our kids' AAP teachers told me that there are plenty of test-prepped kids put into AAP who struggle with the pace and end up with tutors.

And here is a key conceit in all this muck. That kids who struggle in any area must be test-prepped and any kid who thrives must be truly gifted. Without evidence that no test-prepped kids thrive and no non-prepped kids struggle, any such statements are hearsay and within whatever margin error exists. It's just a stupid witch hunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of our kids' AAP teachers told me that there are plenty of test-prepped kids put into AAP who struggle with the pace and end up with tutors. And here I'd been thinking that AAP was not enough for many of these kids and the pace was the same and the material not that much more in depth.

Anyway, she had seen it through her teaching years and thus did not prep her kids and they were not in AAP. We seem to have lots of teachers in our schools who know better and let the chips fall where they may when it comes to their own kids and testing for AAP.

What a shameful liar you are!
How could the said teach possibly know who was prepped and who was not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

pp here - one teacher called DD an intrinsic learner. We don't have to provide any type of help or motivation for her to learn new concepts. DC taught herself to read, we provided books like every parent, but within about 2 weeks when she was 3 we noticed she started fluently reading bob books, so we gave her level 1 books and she goes through books like water. Read the magic treehouse series on her own accord the summer after K. Math is the same way.

The aap program is not challenging for her from what I can see. HW gets done in after school care and I look at it but there is rarely ever a problem wrong. I've tried to offer help to study for tests but she just says - we went over it in class so I'm good - and rarely gets a wrong answer on a test. She does a lot of "learning" on her own outside of school.

Why is it so hard to believe that she did so well on the tests but didn't test prep?

Sounds like DD is ready for MIT. No need for hard work and prep. There are no challenges remaining. Perhaps even MIT will not challenge her. What to do? Just keep prepping...read voraciously.

Your idiotic sarcasm aside, that's the issue. There are plenty of challenges ahead but she's not getting them in the current construct of the AAP program. Just like most parents I just want my kids to be challenged appropriately in school and keep the love of learning.

I want my DD in class with other kids like her because it's healthy for her to know there are other people like her and to have other kids challenge her. At the base school, she was the weird one when she was trying to discuss topics that aren't of interest to most of her peers. It's hard to see your kid come home many days saying that she knows she's weird and is being called names or ostracized because she's different.

For those of you who are so flippant about this subject, I wish you would realize that this is a real issue for some parents with kids that have a very high IQ. This is not about bragging. Simply because you think that illustrates how ignorant you are of the realities of kids and parents of kids like this. Somedays I really wish she was a little more "normal" like her sibling. Trust me life is a lot more rainbows and unicorns for these kids.