Deal Middle School -- no leggings

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Anonymous wrote:I too am astounded that so many adults feel entitled to control other people's clothing choices.

Did you ever, once, stop to think that dress codes help protect children of both sexes from being out into sexual situations for which they are not yet ready? I mean, are you really that dense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I too am astounded that so many adults feel entitled to control other people's clothing choices.

Did you not have a dress code in school growing up? Why are people astonished that there is a freaking dress code????!

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How do clothing choices put children into sexual situations in school? Are they harassed because of the clothes they wear? If so, wouldn't the problem behavior be that of the harrasser?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I too am astounded that so many adults feel entitled to control other people's clothing choices.

Did you not have a dress code in school growing up? Why are people astonished that there is a freaking dress code????!

We did - and corporal punishment was legal in public schools when I was a kid. I am astonished that they are still in place. You would expect systems to improve over time.

[Anonymous]

Schools have dress codes. Workplaces have dress codes. Restaurants have dress codes. This is not a new concept. If you don't like it, pick a new school/job/restaurant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I too am astounded that so many adults feel entitled to control other people's clothing choices.

Did you not have a dress code in school growing up? Why are people astonished that there is a freaking dress code????!

We did - and corporal punishment was legal in public schools when I was a kid. I am astonished that they are still in place. You would expect systems to improve over time.

So you think there should be NO dress code?

[Anonymous]

Please teach your kids that sometimes you need to change for the world, the world doesn't always change for you. It can be over arbitrary stuff, but its a great lesson to learn and its actually a valuable part of the Education your kids are getting.

[Anonymous]

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So you think there should be NO dress code?

No, I think there should be safety rules. (Closed toe shoes in science labs, no flip flops in PE.)

[Anonymous]

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NP here. It is you, PP, who doesn't understand the point. The point is *not* about girls' bodies belonging to them. The point is there are places where certain attire is appropriate is there are places where it's not. Yes, sometimes people have to present themselves in a way that is appropriate to the situation and the community and yes, that is sometimes more important than people pleasing themselves. The fact that you don't understand that simple truth is somewhat baffling.

Assuming you're an adult, your workplace has a dress code, right? Maybe it isn't very explicit, but if you were to show up at work in see through leggings and a crop top, or a tube top and short shorts, or a bikini, you would likely be called on it and sent home to change. I know I would be, and my work dress code is very casual. By your (lack of) logic, since it's more important that I please myself and my body belongs to me and it's creepy and controlling and impossible to understand why anyone feels justified expressing unwanted opinions about how I dress....I should be able to wear a bikini to work. After all, it's hot here in the summer and it pleases me to wear a bikini, so I should be able to wear a bikini at work. Ridiculous, right? If you can't see that, you are silly.

I can't wear a bikini to work because it is inappropriate attire for the setting. Deal has decided that certain attire is inappropriate for the setting. I don't agree with all the rules (baseball caps, and fingertip length of layer over leggings), but that is what they decided is appropriate attire for the setting so if you want to be a part of that community, you follow their rules. It really isn't a big deal. Wear whatever you want in your off time. Show the world how your body belongs to you..in the appropriate setting. Be glad you're not a lawyer who has to wear a suit to court. Talk about being oppressed!

Hmmm. No my workplace doesn't have an explicit dress code and yes my coworkers and I are pretty much in agreement on what is approproate for our work environment. There are differences between my workplace and a student's school. I chose my job and am paid to do it. It's appropriate then for my employer to have some minimum standards of dress. Schools are places where the adults are employed to provide a servide to the students. A dress code for teachers and staff (even a uniform) could appropriately be required. It might even be a good idea, so that teachers could provide an example for students of professional attire. On the other hand, it makes no sense for the employees to set detailed dress code requirements for the customers (students.)

Respect breeds respect. Treat children respectfully and they will be more inclined to respect adults. Assert your right to control them and they will spend their energy looking for ways to get around your rules.

It's an issue of respect for parents too. I send my child to school to be educated, not parented. I have not asked for and do not welcome advice on how my children should dress, what they should eat and what they should do with their time outside of school hours.

Finally, no I wouldn't want my child to wear many of the pictured outfits - in school or out. I am simply pointing out that those choices are not yours or the schools to make.

Then you need to homeschool. You can set whatever guidelines you want when your kids are being educated.

Respect is the most over used word in America. Start with self respect, like not selling yourself short that life is over when asked to wear khakis. Advise your daughter to join student government and respectfully advocate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

So you think there should be NO dress code?

No, I think there should be safety rules. (Closed toe shoes in science labs, no flip flops in PE.)

Really, so girls can wear bikini tops to school?

At this point I am convinced that most of the anti-dress code posters do not actually have middle school aged daughters (or sons) and are parents of 3 year olds killing time on the internet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So you think there should be NO dress code?

No, I think there should be safety rules. (Closed toe shoes in science labs, no flip flops in PE.)

Really, so girls can wear bikini tops to school?

At this point I am convinced that most of the anti-dress code posters do not actually have middle school aged daughters (or sons) and are parents of 3 year olds killing time on the internet.

Certainty is not an accomplishment. Smugness is not attractive.

Sincerely, parent of a rising 6th-grade daughter whose butt is not a public nuisance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

So you think there should be NO dress code?

No, I think there should be safety rules. (Closed toe shoes in science labs, no flip flops in PE.)

So thong bathing suits are ok to wear to school, in your opinion?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So you think there should be NO dress code?

No, I think there should be safety rules. (Closed toe shoes in science labs, no flip flops in PE.)

So thong bathing suits are ok to wear to school, in your opinion?

As are fishnet stockings, racist logos, daisy dukes, wearing only boxers, see through shirts without bras. Heaven forbid you wear flip flops (I can hike Billy Goat Trail in flip flops I'm sure some can walk around a track. Really, some of you should not be parents and I never say such things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So you think there should be NO dress code?

No, I think there should be safety rules. (Closed toe shoes in science labs, no flip flops in PE.)

So thong bathing suits are ok to wear to school, in your opinion?

This is fine to wear to Deal, but NOT with flip flops if you have P.E. that day!!!!! (also? remember to wear this with closed-toe pumps and not scrappy sandals if you have chem lab!!! The combo of this dress and a sensible pump = a fair rule. NO one should tell my daughter what to wear, so long as her feet are safe for the activity at hand.

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* strappy sandals, not scrappy. Scrappy sandals would be ok. A shirt made out of scraps that reveals -everything- would also be OK.