The best way to get into JKLMM as an out of bounds student...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But the OOB process that exists today is clearly not sustainable. The schools are already strained, and the Office of Planning is predicting 40,000 new students in the next decade. They can't all go to Deal and Wilson. Something has to give.

Nothing gave for 40 years before this last boundary review and politics have gotten even crazier. This topic of boundaries and feeder rights is radioactive to politicians. What city leader in their right mind would reopen this can of worms before the next scheduled review? The schools themselves will have to figure out work-arounds with trailers and such, just like they did for the last 40 years.

Of course, if housing prices keep rising, this problem will resolve itself. People with kids won't be able to live here and that will empty out the schools faster than anything else .

In the last 40 years DCPS lost 40,000 students. In the next ten they're going to gain 40,000. It's much easier to have a "just deal with it" attitude when you're losing students, problems solve themselves. When you're gaining students problems compound themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

Come on. Think about this for a minute. Even a politically connected group of parents from Ward 3 can not out weigh the hundreds of OOB parents at schools WOTP and the thousands across the city that would stand behind them out of fear of being next. And let's be clear- this is not a Black/White issue anymore. High SES, politically connected EOTP white parents are using the OOB system. Put them together with the politically connected high SES AA parents who have historically used OOB, and you have an ugly battle on your hands that no politician wants to deal with. Besides, do you really think Bowser would go for this? That meeting was a royal waste of time.

I am just saying there is a vocal group of Lafayette parents waging war. Not saying they will win (I clearly hope not!). They want EotP kids out of WotP schools and are actively campaigning to make it so.

[Anonymous]

Out of curiosity, how specifically are they making their case against EOTP OOB? Seems they'd have a stronger case if they were against all OOB, including say the kid zoned for Eaton that attends Murch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

Come on. Think about this for a minute. Even a politically connected group of parents from Ward 3 can not out weigh the hundreds of OOB parents at schools WOTP and the thousands across the city that would stand behind them out of fear of being next. And let's be clear- this is not a Black/White issue anymore. High SES, politically connected EOTP white parents are using the OOB system. Put them together with the politically connected high SES AA parents who have historically used OOB, and you have an ugly battle on your hands that no politician wants to deal with. Besides, do you really think Bowser would go for this? That meeting was a royal waste of time.

I am just saying there is a vocal group of Lafayette parents waging war. Not saying they will win (I clearly hope not!). They want EotP kids out of WotP schools and are actively campaigning to make it so.

Is there evidence of this? In what way are these parents doing this? Is Lafayette even wotp?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But the OOB process that exists today is clearly not sustainable. The schools are already strained, and the Office of Planning is predicting 40,000 new students in the next decade. They can't all go to Deal and Wilson. Something has to give.

The only way it will "give" is for DCPS to build and open new, desirable schools that will prompt families to self-select. Watch closely how Brookland MS does in the first 2-3 years with the Janney principal at the helm. If she can make it happen then there's a chance. And if DCPS won't do it (build new, desirable alternatives), the charters will try. But telling OOB families that the feeder path they have been promised is suddenly going away, will not happen. Any announcement of that sort will have a several year lead time warning.

They should have done it now with the lead time, would have made perfect sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please keep in mind that there is a strong group of parents at Lafayette that is fighting to get OOB right taken from EotP residents. They do not want children from EotP going to Lafayette, Deal, and Wilson. They want you out and will not stop until they get their way. One just had a meeting with the Mayor.

Come on. Think about this for a minute. Even a politically connected group of parents from Ward 3 can not out weigh the hundreds of OOB parents at schools WOTP and the thousands across the city that would stand behind them out of fear of being next. And let's be clear- this is not a Black/White issue anymore. High SES, politically connected EOTP white parents are using the OOB system. Put them together with the politically connected high SES AA parents who have historically used OOB, and you have an ugly battle on your hands that no politician wants to deal with. Besides, do you really think Bowser would go for this? That meeting was a royal waste of time.

I am just saying there is a vocal group of Lafayette parents waging war. Not saying they will win (I clearly hope not!). They want EotP kids out of WotP schools and are actively campaigning to make it so.

So, how should they deal with overcrowded wotp schools if not to exclude OOB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But the OOB process that exists today is clearly not sustainable. The schools are already strained, and the Office of Planning is predicting 40,000 new students in the next decade. They can't all go to Deal and Wilson. Something has to give.

The only way it will "give" is for DCPS to build and open new, desirable schools that will prompt families to self-select. Watch closely how Brookland MS does in the first 2-3 years with the Janney principal at the helm. If she can make it happen then there's a chance. And if DCPS won't do it (build new, desirable alternatives), the charters will try. But telling OOB families that the feeder path they have been promised is suddenly going away, will not happen. Any announcement of that sort will have a several year lead time warning.

They should have done it now with the lead time, would have made perfect sense.

But they didn't. Sunsetting OOB was discussed and brought up ad nauseam throughout the year long DME process and it was refused again and again.

[Anonymous]

So PP, what should they do about overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

Yes, Lafayette is WOTP.

Who met with the Mayor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people that are dreaming about a change in the OOB feeder system or even the individual school feeder systems are not living in reality. By the time this fight comes up again, many on this board will be planning for college graduation. Exhibit A: Crestwood and 16th Street Heights will keep their Deal feeder right into the 2020s. The politicians do not want to have this discussion again anytime soon.

+1000 It's funny how people love to theorize about which school will be cut from Deal or how OOB policy is on the verge of ending as if that is anywhere close to reality. If anyone participated in the DME boundary and feed-rights process you'll know that these things will NOT happen anytime in the near future that would impact the people railing on this thread. As PP said, by the time anything significant changes, you're kids will be heading off to college. A few anonymous people sitting at their computers deciding that "x" school will get cut from Deal is nothing more than wishful thinking of parents who don't understand the history, the recent decisions or the political landscape. OOB policies were affirmed earlier and more strongly than just about anything during the DME process. The decision-makers made it clear very early on that OOB wasn't on the table to be touched in any significant way. In fact, they double downed by establishing the idea of set-asides for at-risk children.

+1.

I would like to underscore, if anyone thinks "x" school is getting cut out of Deal sometime soon...NOT GOING TO HAPPEN (not Lafayette, not Hearst, not Bancroft, not ANY school that is currently in the Deal feeder pattern. Sorry Eaton, I know misery loves company, but it is, what it is for now). That fight was brutal. As previously noted, no politician wants to tackle this one again. The only reason why they decided to push the issue last year was because Grey was headed out the door and they had a small window of opportunity. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they are even scheduled to look at boundaries, etc. again for almost 10 years.

+1

I think there are some people on DCUM who haven't done a lot of work on this IRL, and didn't get what they wanted in the DME process, and now want a rematch/do-over. But they won't get it for 10-20 years, and anyone who has done the face time knows this.

[Anonymous]

So what happens in 5 years when Deal is bursting at the seams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what happens in 5 years when Deal is bursting at the seams?

1) it's not likely to happen due to changes made during the boundary review (eaton, crestwood, etc) and projected enrollments (lafayette projected to fall)

2) if it does, it will be handled with physical expansion, trailers, schedule changes. Same as at janney or any other growing school. Again, politicians and dcps would MUCH rather do those things than do another boundary review. That's the point some DCUM monday morning QBs like to ignore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what happens in 5 years when Deal is bursting at the seams?

Duh!!! They'll add more trailers .

[Anonymous]

Having had kids in suburban schools, some poster's concept of overcrowded is absolutely comical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what happens in 5 years when Deal is bursting at the seams?

1) it's not likely to happen due to changes made during the boundary review (eaton, crestwood, etc) and projected enrollments (lafayette projected to fall)

2) if it does, it will be handled with physical expansion, trailers, schedule changes. Same as at janney or any other growing school. Again, politicians and dcps would MUCH rather do those things than do another boundary review. That's the point some DCUM monday morning QBs like to ignore.

They don't have to do another boundary review so quickly. They must manage down OOB enrollment aggressively at feeders which are at or above capacity.