Caitlyn Jenner

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Anonymous wrote:No judgement here- but I have to say that the transformation confuses me. The outfit and look are totally sexually charged, but I can't figure out who the audience for Caitlyn is. Any insight would be appreciated.


It's Vanity Fair. Every cover shoot looks sexually charged.
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Anonymous wrote:No judgement here- but I have to say that the transformation confuses me. The outfit and look are totally sexually charged, but I can't figure out who the audience for Caitlyn is. Any insight would be appreciated.


What do you mean by audience? That is what she chose to wear and i love it. Its not sexual, as it isnt a bikini. Very vintage.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


Who's reality? Yours? Sorry, not buying it.


There is no such thing as "my reality" or "your reality." There is only reality. It is currently not raining outside. That is a fact, a reality. It is not sunny for me and raining for you.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


What "societal problem?" Can you explain that, and how it personally affects you?


Because if you will buy this, you will buy anything. And if "society" is currently so dumbed down that it will accept whatever anyone says as "reality" -- despite concrete evidence to the contrary (e.g. the existence of a penis means the human being is a male), then we are on a dangerous path where we can literally be swayed by anyone to believe anything.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


Who's reality? Yours? Sorry, not buying it.


There is no such thing as "my reality" or "your reality." There is only reality. It is currently not raining outside. That is a fact, a reality. It is not sunny for me and raining for you.


Not pp, but can you back up this assertion with regards to brain reality? Not talking about chromosomes and genes, but can you provide scientific data bout what is "fact" with regards to reality in the human brain? What does that "only reality" look like, as "a fact, a reality?"
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


Who's reality? Yours? Sorry, not buying it.


There is no such thing as "my reality" or "your reality." There is only reality. It is currently not raining outside. That is a fact, a reality. It is not sunny for me and raining for you.


Bless your heart. All the "la la la's" in your head must become deafening after a while.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


Who's reality? Yours? Sorry, not buying it.


There is no such thing as "my reality" or "your reality." There is only reality. It is currently not raining outside. That is a fact, a reality. It is not sunny for me and raining for you.


Bless your heart. All the "la la la's" in your head must become deafening after a while.


huh?
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


What "societal problem?" Can you explain that, and how it personally affects you?


Because if you will buy this, you will buy anything. And if "society" is currently so dumbed down that it will accept whatever anyone says as "reality" -- despite concrete evidence to the contrary (e.g. the existence of a penis means the human being is a male), then we are on a dangerous path where we can literally be swayed by anyone to believe anything.


I think it's becoming very clear to me that your position is based on ignorance. I don't mean that as an insult, but you seem to only see sex as it pertains to genitals (most of us are xx or xy, but there are other chromosomal variations, and ditto with regards to genital development), and entirely unaware of the difference between gender and sex (ie, male vs man, female vs. woman, etc). There's clearly an informational deficit that's basing your misinformed position.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


Who's reality? Yours? Sorry, not buying it.


There is no such thing as "my reality" or "your reality." There is only reality. It is currently not raining outside. That is a fact, a reality. It is not sunny for me and raining for you.


Bless your heart. All the "la la la's" in your head must become deafening after a while.


huh?


Come on, you can get it. Just think really hard. Oh, wait...
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Haven't read through all these posts. But dayum she looks good. And age appropriate. But there is some serious plastic surgery happening. I guess my only wish is that every trans person could fund the kind of reveal that Caitlyn was able to do.
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He's had a lot of surgery and a lot of Photoshopping, that's for sure. Keeping him in my thoughts for help with his mental state. One of our country's best Olympic athletes!
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


What "societal problem?" Can you explain that, and how it personally affects you?


Because if you will buy this, you will buy anything. And if "society" is currently so dumbed down that it will accept whatever anyone says as "reality" -- despite concrete evidence to the contrary (e.g. the existence of a penis means the human being is a male), then we are on a dangerous path where we can literally be swayed by anyone to believe anything.


I think it's becoming very clear to me that your position is based on ignorance. I don't mean that as an insult, but you seem to only see sex as it pertains to genitals (most of us are xx or xy, but there are other chromosomal variations, and ditto with regards to genital development), and entirely unaware of the difference between gender and sex (ie, male vs man, female vs. woman, etc). There's clearly an informational deficit that's basing your misinformed position.


Well how interesting! It's becoming equally clear to me that your position is based on nothing more than PC psychobabble. And of course I don't mean that as an insult either. You're just very, very gullible. Bless your heart.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


What "societal problem?" Can you explain that, and how it personally affects you?


Because if you will buy this, you will buy anything. And if "society" is currently so dumbed down that it will accept whatever anyone says as "reality" -- despite concrete evidence to the contrary (e.g. the existence of a penis means the human being is a male), then we are on a dangerous path where we can literally be swayed by anyone to believe anything.
Oh yeah, Bruce Jenner decides to be a woman and we are facing the apocalypse.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


What "societal problem?" Can you explain that, and how it personally affects you?


Because if you will buy this, you will buy anything. And if "society" is currently so dumbed down that it will accept whatever anyone says as "reality" -- despite concrete evidence to the contrary (e.g. the existence of a penis means the human being is a male), then we are on a dangerous path where we can literally be swayed by anyone to believe anything.


I think it's becoming very clear to me that your position is based on ignorance. I don't mean that as an insult, but you seem to only see sex as it pertains to genitals (most of us are xx or xy, but there are other chromosomal variations, and ditto with regards to genital development), and entirely unaware of the difference between gender and sex (ie, male vs man, female vs. woman, etc). There's clearly an informational deficit that's basing your misinformed position.


Well how interesting! It's becoming equally clear to me that your position is based on nothing more than PC psychobabble. And of course I don't mean that as an insult either. You're just very, very gullible. Bless your heart.


Wow. What a completely incomparably rude, classless response.
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Anonymous wrote:Can't change DNA. Sorry, Bruce.


Very few of us aren't fake ass bitches.

Myself, I'm Mediterranean. Can't change my DNA prone to massive hirsuteness, but damn well better believe I'll try and remove what I can to be a happier person, while harming absolutely no one in the process.



That's fine, but you probably don't expect people to believe you no longer have a Mediterranean background.

Really, this isn't difficult.


I've never heard a transgender person ask people to deny their past, or even DNA. Just to acknowledge who they choose to be. Sorry it affects you so much?


Would PP say "I'm no longer Mediterranean?" Because Bruce Jenner is saying "I'm no longer a man." Wow, this is so simple!


No, I'd say despite being born Mediterranean and hairy, I'm going forward with trying to be not hairy.

Just like a transgender person might say "despite being born male, I'm going forward with trying to be a woman."

Do you really not know the difference between gender and sex? It's really very simple, actually.

Seriously, why on earth do you hold such strong opinions on this? Why does how someone defines themselves, affect you?


Because when one person can convince a host of other people to believe something that is clearly the direct opposite of reality, we have a very large societal problem.


What "societal problem?" Can you explain that, and how it personally affects you?


Because if you will buy this, you will buy anything. And if "society" is currently so dumbed down that it will accept whatever anyone says as "reality" -- despite concrete evidence to the contrary (e.g. the existence of a penis means the human being is a male), then we are on a dangerous path where we can literally be swayed by anyone to believe anything.


I think it's becoming very clear to me that your position is based on ignorance. I don't mean that as an insult, but you seem to only see sex as it pertains to genitals (most of us are xx or xy, but there are other chromosomal variations, and ditto with regards to genital development), and entirely unaware of the difference between gender and sex (ie, male vs man, female vs. woman, etc). There's clearly an informational deficit that's basing your misinformed position.


Well how interesting! It's becoming equally clear to me that your position is based on nothing more than PC psychobabble. And of course I don't mean that as an insult either. You're just very, very gullible. Bless your heart.


Wow. What a completely incomparably rude, classless response.


Oh, please.... this is DCUM. Grow up.
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