College that won't inundate my kids with white guilt?

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You sound so incredibly shallow and uninformed, OP.
Ivies are exceedingly difficult to get into nowadays, and I guarantee that most of the current student and professorial crop have other fish to fry than agonize over the propriety of White ascendency. These are international campuses with tons of perspective. White Guilt is an American thing.

I assure you I am certainly not. As for uninformed, it depends on the subject.

As for your intentional schools, that was actually a good suggestion. Thanks!

If you really don't think most prestigious schools have been immersed in white privilege rhetoric, I'm afraid it is you who is uninformed.

PP you responded to. I said this because we are a European-Asian family, and have lived in many different countries. The liberal against liberal tensions here are... well, petty and narrow-minded, frankly. Your children can consider a gap year at a university abroad, or some kind of international exchange during their studies. But even if they stay here, the student body at the most prestigious universities is quite international, and if you have educated your kids with a more global perspective, they should not have any problems seeing humbug for what it is wherever they go. And if they come back with opinions that differ from yours for a few years, hey, that's what growing up is all about! Their opinions will change with age and experience. You know people tend to become more conservative as they age.

So relax. The kids will be fine.

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So OP, is it your sense the white kids graduate from college with a profound sense that they need to overthrow the existing power structure, or what?

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No, they graduate as the thought police. They won't DO anything about the stuff they bitch about, but you bet they will make you suffer if you express disagreement with their orthodoxy.

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^By the way, I'm not OP. New poster.

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Anonymous wrote:We are told that we should never assume that AAs got where they are via affirmative action, but a lot of people have no problem assuminv that any given white person got where they are because of White Privilege.

"You didn't build that business. Someone else built that for you..."

I do not totally agree, but your point is a fair point. Your example is not an example of White privilege though.

When most people talk about White privilege, they are NOT always saying that Whites are not smart or that Whites don't work hard. What they are saying is that, for the most part and because of society's structure, Whites are in a better position to have their intelligence and hard work pay off. When people criticize Affirmative Action, it is a different tone. Of course, the common example that EVERYONE White who is critical of Affirmative Action uses is the AA or a Hispanic they know who is not effective at work. They don't mention the White co-workers that have the same competency issues - and we all know plenty of those too. And they ignore the minorities and women who are more than qualified but don't get the opportunity. Most of us know people like that also.

TBH, I think that empolyers have been lazy in implementing Affirmative Action policies and that is the problem to me.

If you don't get this, you're stubborn and/or ignorant. Even Bill O'Reilly admitted this is true (on the Daily Show).

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Anonymous wrote:No, they graduate as the thought police. They won't DO anything about the stuff they bitch about, but you bet they will make you suffer if you express disagreement with their orthodoxy.

Huh? Are we having a stupid people convention this morning? WTH are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:No, they graduate as the thought police. They won't DO anything about the stuff they bitch about, but you bet they will make you suffer if you express disagreement with their orthodoxy.

Huh? Are we having a stupid people convention this morning? WTH are you talking about?

PP probably reads too much Jezebel, where writers from relatively privileged backgrounds make their living villifying and passing judging on mostly less-educated/privileged white people using the most devisive language possible.

Unfortunately, this characterizes much of the online media these days.

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Anonymous wrote:My family worked in manual jobs after they came to this country, well after the Emancipation Proclamation. They didn't own slaves and didn't profit from slavery. Some of them felt discrimination in hiring as late as the 1950s (against Catholics in public employment). They don't have white guilt, nor do I. My advice to others is:

It's been 150 years since the abolition of slavery, and 50 years since the Civil Rights Act and other landmark legislation. In recent decades, we've had immigrants literally washing up on US shores with just the clothes on their backs and then buckling down and making something of their lives. They don't blame others for their many troubles. Study hard. Lose the attitude. Obey the laws. Patronize the businesses of those who risk all to invest in your community, don't burn them. Stop using "discrimination" as an excuse for everything wrong in your life. Focus on what you can contribute, not what is "owed" to you.

Yea, thanks for telling us what is wrong with AA's? How many do you actually know? Do you have an answer to the OP's question or are you just soapboxing?

You know it is a frightening thing that while more AA's are in college than anytime in this country's history, people still stick to this notion that AA's are just standng there with their hands out talking about White guilt. We ARE educating ourselves and that is why you get the whole Affirmative Action criticism. AA's don't go to college and we get posts like this "you are not doing anything to better yourselves." We go to college and it is "you don't derserve to be there, Affirmative Action got you in." Whites now play the victim role as much as any other minority. Maybe that means progress is bening made.

TBH, when I was in college the focus was not on White guilt, it was on White MALE guilt and most of the people at the rallies critcizing the White men were White women. But y'all go ahead and believe what you want.

Very well put. +1

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any good schools whose culture has not been completely overtaken by the "white people are to blame for the world's woes"? And don't tell me to look at Liberty. I mean Ivies and a level below. I feel like the college cultural pendulum has swung so hard to the left. Even Chris Rock says he doesn't do college tours because college audiences are so intolerant! (In the name of tolerance, of course).

Any major University in the south, mid-west, or any place besides the northeast.

[Anonymous]

The fact that OP even has to post this shows way too much time for navel gazing. White guilt is a luxury and the fact that you're worried about your kid being subjected to some speaks volumes of how little necessary education you've done at home.

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In other words, where can I go to college in a bubble just like the one created for me by Mom and Dad?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any good schools whose culture has not been completely overtaken by the "white people are to blame for the world's woes"? And don't tell me to look at Liberty. I mean Ivies and a level below. I feel like the college cultural pendulum has swung so hard to the left. Even Chris Rock says he doesn't do college tours because college audiences are so intolerant! (In the name of tolerance, of course).

Any major University in the south, mid-west, or any place besides the northeast.

I'd agree with that. Good suggestion.

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White guilt thing is pure BS. Don't feel guilty for my sake. If I end up in a sh*t hole in life, it's on me and not on some white guy i don't even know.

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OP, it's clear you don't know or don't care to know much history. It's not guilt, it's acknowledgment of the facts. I would hate for your kid to have go to school with "the blacks".

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colleges and high schools do this especially in English and History.
Not so much an issue in Science, Foreign Language, Math, PE
I tell my kid tolet it go in one ear and out the other. I think that’s what most kids do.