My child graduated from TJ and he/she is now..................

[Anonymous]

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Precisely. ONE school versus the mean scores across MANY schools.

Exactly. Shanghai is touted as having the highest PISA scores in the world and much, much higher than US scores. I don't think they break down the scores for Shanghai or at least the data is not available. if you have the data of Shanghai schools or of a school that has higher scores than TJ, please post them. I do not know of any. Of all the known scores, TJ has the highest scores, higher than Shanghai scores.

http://www.oecd.org/countries/hongkongchina/46581016.pdf

http://www.shmec.gov.cn/english/list.php?type=Overview&area_id=&article_id=63905

Again -- ONE school (TJ) vs. the mean scores across MANY schools (all schools in Shanghai). It is not a comparison of one school (TJ) to one school (Shanghai High School, as an example).

Shanghai schools (plural) do have the highest PISA scores in the world and much, much higher than US scores.

I guess you want to become "that person who is not so great at reporting facts person" since your sources are articles on educational systems in Hong Kong and Shanghai. Read your own sources. You did not post any scores of any schools that have higher scores than TJ. The initial statement was that TJ's scores are far higher than schools in US and higher than even Shanghai scores which are considered the best in the world. The statement never referred to PISA scores of a particular school in Shanghai.

Your sources do not show the initial statement to be factually incorrect as you had implied. You need better sources or scores. Do not try to mislead people on this thread since they are smarter than that. In addition, you should be able to back up your statement if you are going to imply that a poster posts inaccurate statements regularly and also refrain from doing exactly the thing that you are mocking someone else of doing. You are just repeating yourself and merely repeating something is not an effective rebuttal. Try again by "reporting facts" that show the initial statement to be incorrect.

And your sources do not back up the statement the TJ scores are higher than all Shanghai schools' scores.

"Then consider that Shanghai’s public schools are considered the best in China. This means that the fifteen-year-old students who take the international PISA in China are the elite of the elite attending China’s best public schools."

http://ilookchina.net/2014/01/28/the-facts-and-the-truth-behind-chinas-1-international-pisa-test-scores/

[Anonymous]

The average TJ SAT scores are only in 600s? Including math? Did I read that correctly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The average TJ SAT scores are only in 600s? Including math? Did I read that correctly?

These are PISA scores not SAT scores. TJ has the highest PISA scores in the world. TJ also has the highest Average SAT scores in the US which is around 2,200.

[Anonymous]

The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

magnet- damn autocorrect on my bad typing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

Right. However, Shanghai is supposed to be the highest performing school system in China and that it appears only the top students from Shanghai participated in the PISA test. The fcps scores were derived from all different types of students from relatively low performing schools to high performing schools so there is that issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

Right. However, Shanghai is supposed to be the highest performing school system in China and that it appears only the top students from Shanghai participated in the PISA test. The fcps scores were derived from all different types of students from relatively low performing schools to high performing schools so there is that issue.

The ideal comparison will be to compare scores from the best performing high school in Shanghai or China to TJ scores but scores from the best performing high school in Shanghai/China are not available.

[Anonymous]

He is now head of the sales dept in a fortune 500 company, happily married with kids, an amazing person, and I'm so proud of him!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is now head of the sales dept in a fortune 500 company, happily married with kids, an amazing person, and I'm so proud of him!

What do you think he would be doing if he had not gone to TJ?

[Anonymous]

I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

What are the good private ones?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

What are the good private ones?

Richmond and Washington and Lee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

University of Michigan is a better school than UVA and VaTech.

[Anonymous]

Teacher.

[Anonymous]

There's a TJ grad on my project team (IT). He attended VT and majored in computer science. He's one of a six-member team of developers. He is a strong developer, just like all the other members of the team.

The other members of the team graduated from different high schools (none from the DC/MD/VA area). I value the team members for their development expertise and sharp reasoning skills, not for their high school diploma.