TJ class 2017 decision is out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you know this? Is the school willing to discuss specifics as to why an application may have been denied?
Thank you for any information!

Call [phone], ask for Admissions specialist. Give student id and ask for the reason of rejection. I did and I got the response saying SIS was the culprit.Even she mentioned essays and recommendations were good, just on the basis of SIS, my DS got rejected. She says may be on that very day, he did not do good on SIS.
I call BS. Talked to the admissions person and she said that outside of the test scores and GPA the decision on each applicant was made "holistically", meaning that SIS, LOR and essays were not rated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did any other parents call to ask for the reason for rejection? My child has straight A's and very high test scores, so I suspect SIS. I'm not sure whether I truly want to know, though, and don't want to get branded as "that parent" by admissions office in case my child applies again next year.

A few years ago when my very quiet son wasn't accepted with straight A's, perfect test scores, demonstrated interest in math and science since grade school (math counts captain, robotics, etc.) and good essays, he was devastated. So I emailed the teachers who had written his references and very politely thanked them again. But I also noted how disappointed my son was, how I was struggling to figure out what to tell him and asked if they had any idea why he might have been rejected. One never responded. But the other teacher was kind enough to write back and say that although my son was clearly very bright, he kept to himself a lot so the teacher wasn't able to say that he was an active participant in class. As disappointing as this was, I think that given the competition and the really driven kids who are accepted, it made sense that he was overlooked.

Not saying this would work in every case, but sometimes the teachers response or nonresponse can be quite helpful.

I am glad that you were not upset but this is clearly a screwed up system. Since when is being outspoken so important in STEM? And why accept so many who clearly needs help in Math?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did any other parents call to ask for the reason for rejection? My child has straight A's and very high test scores, so I suspect SIS. I'm not sure whether I truly want to know, though, and don't want to get branded as "that parent" by admissions office in case my child applies again next year.

A few years ago when my very quiet son wasn't accepted with straight A's, perfect test scores, demonstrated interest in math and science since grade school (math counts captain, robotics, etc.) and good essays, he was devastated. So I emailed the teachers who had written his references and very politely thanked them again. But I also noted how disappointed my son was, how I was struggling to figure out what to tell him and asked if they had any idea why he might have been rejected. One never responded. But the other teacher was kind enough to write back and say that although my son was clearly very bright, he kept to himself a lot so the teacher wasn't able to say that he was an active participant in class. As disappointing as this was, I think that given the competition and the really driven kids who are accepted, it made sense that he was overlooked.

Not saying this would work in every case, but sometimes the teachers response or nonresponse can be quite helpful.

I am glad that you were not upset but this is clearly a screwed up system. Since when is being outspoken so important in STEM? And why accept so many who clearly needs help in Math?

most truly STEM students are introvert. They are doer, not the talker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did any other parents call to ask for the reason for rejection? My child has straight A's and very high test scores, so I suspect SIS. I'm not sure whether I truly want to know, though, and don't want to get branded as "that parent" by admissions office in case my child applies again next year.

A few years ago when my very quiet son wasn't accepted with straight A's, perfect test scores, demonstrated interest in math and science since grade school (math counts captain, robotics, etc.) and good essays, he was devastated. So I emailed the teachers who had written his references and very politely thanked them again. But I also noted how disappointed my son was, how I was struggling to figure out what to tell him and asked if they had any idea why he might have been rejected. One never responded. But the other teacher was kind enough to write back and say that although my son was clearly very bright, he kept to himself a lot so the teacher wasn't able to say that he was an active participant in class. As disappointing as this was, I think that given the competition and the really driven kids who are accepted, it made sense that he was overlooked.

Not saying this would work in every case, but sometimes the teachers response or nonresponse can be quite helpful.

I am glad that you were not upset but this is clearly a screwed up system. Since when is being outspoken so important in STEM? And why accept so many who clearly needs help in Math?

most truly STEM students are introvert. They are doer, not the talker.

No matter how introverted a child is, he must answer the teacher's questions in class. Class participation is part of how many teachers grade their students. Being able to work with a group and knowing how to be a good team member is important to success at TJ. A scientist or an engineer needs to work with others and TJ is preparing students to be successful in the future in STEM fields.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did any other parents call to ask for the reason for rejection? My child has straight A's and very high test scores, so I suspect SIS. I'm not sure whether I truly want to know, though, and don't want to get branded as "that parent" by admissions office in case my child applies again next year.

A few years ago when my very quiet son wasn't accepted with straight A's, perfect test scores, demonstrated interest in math and science since grade school (math counts captain, robotics, etc.) and good essays, he was devastated. So I emailed the teachers who had written his references and very politely thanked them again. But I also noted how disappointed my son was, how I was struggling to figure out what to tell him and asked if they had any idea why he might have been rejected. One never responded. But the other teacher was kind enough to write back and say that although my son was clearly very bright, he kept to himself a lot so the teacher wasn't able to say that he was an active participant in class. As disappointing as this was, I think that given the competition and the really driven kids who are accepted, it made sense that he was overlooked.

Not saying this would work in every case, but sometimes the teachers response or nonresponse can be quite helpful.

I am glad that you were not upset but this is clearly a screwed up system. Since when is being outspoken so important in STEM? And why accept so many who clearly needs help in Math?

most truly STEM students are introvert. They are doer, not the talker.

No matter how introverted a child is, he must answer the teacher's questions in class. Class participation is part of how many teachers grade their students. Being able to work with a group and knowing how to be a good team member is important to success at TJ. A scientist or an engineer needs to work with others and TJ is preparing students to be successful in the future in STEM fields.

Class participation and answer the teachers's questions in class are two different things. Can you change a person's personality? Can you change an introverted child to an extroverted child? Try to change your spous's personality to see what happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did any other parents call to ask for the reason for rejection? My child has straight A's and very high test scores, so I suspect SIS. I'm not sure whether I truly want to know, though, and don't want to get branded as "that parent" by admissions office in case my child applies again next year.

A few years ago when my very quiet son wasn't accepted with straight A's, perfect test scores, demonstrated interest in math and science since grade school (math counts captain, robotics, etc.) and good essays, he was devastated. So I emailed the teachers who had written his references and very politely thanked them again. But I also noted how disappointed my son was, how I was struggling to figure out what to tell him and asked if they had any idea why he might have been rejected. One never responded. But the other teacher was kind enough to write back and say that although my son was clearly very bright, he kept to himself a lot so the teacher wasn't able to say that he was an active participant in class. As disappointing as this was, I think that given the competition and the really driven kids who are accepted, it made sense that he was overlooked.

Not saying this would work in every case, but sometimes the teachers response or nonresponse can be quite helpful.

I am glad that you were not upset but this is clearly a screwed up system. Since when is being outspoken so important in STEM? And why accept so many who clearly needs help in Math?

most truly STEM students are introvert. They are doer, not the talker.

No matter how introverted a child is, he must answer the teacher's questions in class. Class participation is part of how many teachers grade their students. Being able to work with a group and knowing how to be a good team member is important to success at TJ. A scientist or an engineer needs to work with others and TJ is preparing students to be successful in the future in STEM fields.

Class participation and answer the teachers's questions in class are two different things. Can you change a person's personality? Can you change an introverted child to an extroverted child? Try to change your spous's personality to see what happen.

Actually, answering the teacher's questions is a big part of the class participation grade. It is not a matter of changing a personality, it is a matter of fulfilling the course requirements. Some people don't like to take tests or write papers, but they must do them anyway because it is what the teacher requires as part of a course. If class participation is required as part of a class, it is no different than taking a test or writing a paper.