AAP In Pool Letters - What Schools Have You Received Them From?

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[Post New]01/31/2013 18:15
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, and my kid has a nov. birthday


???
[Post New]01/31/2013 18:23
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, and my kid has a nov. birthday


???


Sorry, this was I response to above post about the age adjustment. I meant that yes my DC had a composite score equal to the highest subset score, but was a nov birthday.
[Post New]01/31/2013 18:32
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Anonymous
I still haven't gotten the cogat score yet... what does composite and subtest score mean? So they'll give you each of the percentages in each of the sections, and that somehow comprises an averaged score? (which would make the composite?)
[Post New]01/31/2013 18:34
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Anonymous
PP, he composite is probably not an average. If it's like past CogAt's, certain sections are weighted more than others. I know the scoring is different, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was weighted in a similar way.
[Post New]02/01/2013 09:52
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Anonymous
Anyone from Coates Elementary?
[Post New]02/01/2013 10:32
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Anonymous
18:23--what were the subsection breakdown and composite?
[Post New]02/01/2013 10:47
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Anonymous
Did anyone get in-pool letter from centreville elementary school?
[Post New]02/01/2013 10:52
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Anonymous
No I'm a Centreville ES Mom, no letter no scores ...nothing yet!!!
[Post New]02/01/2013 11:19
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Anonymous
Anyone from Green Briar East?
[Post New]02/01/2013 12:29
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the scores are not normed for age, the AAP program will end up full of redshirted kids.


So much for my kids getting in as they are summer birthdays that went on time...


+1 (my DC is a September kid)


+1 Same here. Got very different percentiles between NNAT (age normed) and FAT (not age norm). Among all the materials, only NNAT is age normed. I can't image the committee will consider the age when they make decision. Even they do, it's very objective and random w/o any statistic data supporting.
[Post New]02/01/2013 12:33
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the scores are not normed for age, the AAP program will end up full of redshirted kids.


So much for my kids getting in as they are summer birthdays that went on time...


+1 (my DC is a September kid)


+1 Same here. Got very different percentiles between NNAT (age normed) and FAT (not age norm). Among all the materials, only NNAT is age normed. I can't image the committee will consider the age when they make decision. Even they do, it's very objective and random w/o any statistic data supporting.


+1. My kid is a July birthday and did ok on the FAT, but how can it be fair to compare his score to others a year older? This test holds no validity in comparing between those in the applicant group. What a joke.
[Post New]02/01/2013 12:38
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Anonymous
Im curious how much you think your kids score would be affected if it was age adjusted assuming it wasnt already.
[Post New]02/01/2013 12:53
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Im curious how much you think your kids score would be affected if it was age adjusted assuming it wasnt already.


That is impossible to say without the test data, but for my DC it would go up. However, if the County is striving to make the process better (e.g. reworking the test to Fairfax only instead of national), then normalizing the results by age would undoubtedly be more fair across the board. This test is supposed to mimic an IQ test, and all IQ tests are age normalized. What about the summer birthday kids who missed the pool cutoff by 2 or 3% points? They are not in the pool, and others who are at 95%, and who are up to a year older may not have made the pool in the event scores were age normalized. Now, I know many will say, just refer into the pool and take the WISC blah blah, but the point is fairness in the process. Not everyone can afford the WISC. The test was designed by professionals to make the process better and I am at a loss as to why it was not normalized for age. The difference between a 7 year old and 8 year old's maturity and knowledge set can be significant (obviously more so than a 15 and 16 year old, for example).

This is a big flaw in my opinion.
[Post New]02/01/2013 13:14
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im curious how much you think your kids score would be affected if it was age adjusted assuming it wasnt already.


That is impossible to say without the test data, but for my DC it would go up. However, if the County is striving to make the process better (e.g. reworking the test to Fairfax only instead of national), then normalizing the results by age would undoubtedly be more fair across the board. This test is supposed to mimic an IQ test, and all IQ tests are age normalized. What about the summer birthday kids who missed the pool cutoff by 2 or 3% points? They are not in the pool, and others who are at 95%, and who are up to a year older may not have made the pool in the event scores were age normalized. Now, I know many will say, just refer into the pool and take the WISC blah blah, but the point is fairness in the process. Not everyone can afford the WISC. The test was designed by professionals to make the process better and I am at a loss as to why it was not normalized for age. The difference between a 7 year old and 8 year old's maturity and knowledge set can be significant (obviously more so than a 15 and 16 year old, for example).

This is a big flaw in my opinion.


+1
Plus, it can be grounds for legal action...
[Post New]02/01/2013 13:16
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Anonymous
I completely agree with the previous PP. Kids at this age - even two months make a difference in cognitive development.
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