Hopkins or UVA or Georgetown

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a party school. The students are simply not as serious as those at GU and JHU. I'd go with GU- for a solid, well-rounded education.

This. Your peer group at GU and JHU will be more uniformly brighter. They have 7k and 6k students versus 17k at UVA and are much more selective. The student bodies will also be geographically diverse at GU and UVA which is a plus.

Thinking that any of these differences is particularly meaningful between these schools is what happens when you go way too far down the rabbit hole. Some of you need to come up for air.

No UVA in-state acceptance rate is 23-28% and test optional.

Georgetown is 11-12%- not yet on common app (will shrink) and test required

Hopkins is 4-6%



If you don’t think those numbers and 10-11k less students at GU and JHU don’t reflect an elevated student intellect….

50th SAT percentile of 1540 at Hopkins vs 1470 at UVA with almost the same percentages reporting. Yes, it is different, but this is not a “particularly meaningful” difference for student interactions nor is the peer group “uniformly” brighter. You are dealing with smart kids at one and smart kids at the other. Some of you are really way, way too lost in trees.

UVA's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1410 to 1520. 84% of UVa Freshman are in top 10% of class.

Source: https://ira.virginia.edu/sites/ira/files/2025-03/CDS_2024-2025_508.pdf

JHU's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1530 to 1560. 100% of JHU freshman are in top 10% of class

Source: https://oira.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/CDS_2024-2025_JHU.pdf

That is a huge difference no matter how you spin it.

Very low percentages of entering students have class rank reported these days. Half reporting standardized test and 20-25% class rank explains the high entering class stats reported.

Wow!!! 40% of admitted did not report any test scores. No scores=low scores.

Georgetown: 100% submitted scores.

That’s all I need to know about the student body.

jhu in 2019 had a 1480 to 1550 range for enrolled freshman. it wasnt close then between jhu and uva/georgetown and it wont be close now after jhu required test scores.

https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/08/22/class-of-2023-by-the-numbers/

Uva same time frame when test scores were required had a 1330 to 1500 range for comparison: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JdpaH_toZH8-ix6XVXpfr5qVCGskoBqB/view?usp=drivesdk

again, not close

Again, you’re talking about like half of the classes having overlapping scores. This isn’t the big deal you think it is, you’re just too fixated on obsessing over these numbers to realize it.

this suggests 70% of jhu freshman are above top 25% of UVa’s range. i dont think you understand what that means.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a party school. The students are simply not as serious as those at GU and JHU. I'd go with GU- for a solid, well-rounded education.

This. Your peer group at GU and JHU will be more uniformly brighter. They have 7k and 6k students versus 17k at UVA and are much more selective. The student bodies will also be geographically diverse at GU and UVA which is a plus.

Thinking that any of these differences is particularly meaningful between these schools is what happens when you go way too far down the rabbit hole. Some of you need to come up for air.

No UVA in-state acceptance rate is 23-28% and test optional.

Georgetown is 11-12%- not yet on common app (will shrink) and test required

Hopkins is 4-6%



If you don’t think those numbers and 10-11k less students at GU and JHU don’t reflect an elevated student intellect….

50th SAT percentile of 1540 at Hopkins vs 1470 at UVA with almost the same percentages reporting. Yes, it is different, but this is not a “particularly meaningful” difference for student interactions nor is the peer group “uniformly” brighter. You are dealing with smart kids at one and smart kids at the other. Some of you are really way, way too lost in trees.

UVA's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1410 to 1520. 84% of UVa Freshman are in top 10% of class.

Source: https://ira.virginia.edu/sites/ira/files/2025-03/CDS_2024-2025_508.pdf

JHU's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1530 to 1560. 100% of JHU freshman are in top 10% of class

Source: https://oira.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/CDS_2024-2025_JHU.pdf

That is a huge difference no matter how you spin it.

Very low percentages of entering students have class rank reported these days. Half reporting standardized test and 20-25% class rank explains the high entering class stats reported.

Wow!!! 40% of admitted did not report any test scores. No scores=low scores.

Georgetown: 100% submitted scores.

That’s all I need to know about the student body.

jhu in 2019 had a 1480 to 1550 range for enrolled freshman. it wasnt close then between jhu and uva/georgetown and it wont be close now after jhu required test scores.

https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/08/22/class-of-2023-by-the-numbers/

Uva same time frame when test scores were required had a 1330 to 1500 range for comparison: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JdpaH_toZH8-ix6XVXpfr5qVCGskoBqB/view?usp=drivesdk

again, not close

Again, you’re talking about like half of the classes having overlapping scores. This isn’t the big deal you think it is, you’re just too fixated on obsessing over these numbers to realize it.

this suggests 70% of jhu freshman are above top 25% of UVa’s range. i dont think you understand what that means.

No, it does not. 25% are below 1480 and the number from 1480 to 1500 is not 5% of students in a middle 50 distribution that runs from 1480 to 1550, it is more than that.

You’re one of those unserious people who thinks there is a meaningful difference between, say, a 1480 and 1530, aren’t you?

Again, go outside, touch grass.

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My Hopkins experience is old (grad school) but it felt like such a STEM school and as a non-STEM student I found that a drag. Yes, other departments are strong. The vibe though was always “they’re surprisingly strong, considering…”

I don’t know how true this still is. The culture was so STEM and it bothered me more than I expected.

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Anonymous wrote:1 - Georgetown
2 - JHU
3 - UVA

Same.

Only 1 has every student submitting test scores (not just 40-50% which I find ridiculous—-you only don’t submit if you can’t get a decent score—-with VA HS grade inflation, it’s crazy not to require any scores).

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Anonymous wrote:1 - Georgetown
2 - JHU
3 - UVA

Same.

Only 1 has every student submitting test scores (not just 40-50% which I find ridiculous—-you only don’t submit if you can’t get a decent score—-with VA HS grade inflation, it’s crazy not to require any scores).

where is the 40-50% test scores for jhu? cite your source unless you’re making up shit

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Anonymous wrote:1 - Georgetown
2 - JHU
3 - UVA

Same.

Only 1 has every student submitting test scores (not just 40-50% which I find ridiculous—-you only don’t submit if you can’t get a decent score—-with VA HS grade inflation, it’s crazy not to require any scores).

hardly, why would you submit a 1400 when it is good enough for georgetown but not for hopkins

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a party school. The students are simply not as serious as those at GU and JHU. I'd go with GU- for a solid, well-rounded education.

This. Your peer group at GU and JHU will be more uniformly brighter. They have 7k and 6k students versus 17k at UVA and are much more selective. The student bodies will also be geographically diverse at GU and UVA which is a plus.

Thinking that any of these differences is particularly meaningful between these schools is what happens when you go way too far down the rabbit hole. Some of you need to come up for air.

No UVA in-state acceptance rate is 23-28% and test optional.

Georgetown is 11-12%- not yet on common app (will shrink) and test required

Hopkins is 4-6%



If you don’t think those numbers and 10-11k less students at GU and JHU don’t reflect an elevated student intellect….

50th SAT percentile of 1540 at Hopkins vs 1470 at UVA with almost the same percentages reporting. Yes, it is different, but this is not a “particularly meaningful” difference for student interactions nor is the peer group “uniformly” brighter. You are dealing with smart kids at one and smart kids at the other. Some of you are really way, way too lost in trees.

UVA's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1410 to 1520. 84% of UVa Freshman are in top 10% of class.

Source: https://ira.virginia.edu/sites/ira/files/2025-03/CDS_2024-2025_508.pdf

JHU's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1530 to 1560. 100% of JHU freshman are in top 10% of class

Source: https://oira.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/CDS_2024-2025_JHU.pdf

That is a huge difference no matter how you spin it.

Very low percentages of entering students have class rank reported these days. Half reporting standardized test and 20-25% class rank explains the high entering class stats reported.

Wow!!! 40% of admitted did not report any test scores. No scores=low scores.

Georgetown: 100% submitted scores.

That’s all I need to know about the student body.

jhu in 2019 had a 1480 to 1550 range for enrolled freshman. it wasnt close then between jhu and uva/georgetown and it wont be close now after jhu required test scores.

https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/08/22/class-of-2023-by-the-numbers/

Uva same time frame when test scores were required had a 1330 to 1500 range for comparison: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JdpaH_toZH8-ix6XVXpfr5qVCGskoBqB/view?usp=drivesdk

again, not close

Again, you’re talking about like half of the classes having overlapping scores. This isn’t the big deal you think it is, you’re just too fixated on obsessing over these numbers to realize it.

this suggests 70% of jhu freshman are above top 25% of UVa’s range. i dont think you understand what that means.

No, it does not. 25% are below 1480 and the number from 1480 to 1500 is not 5% of students in a middle 50 distribution that runs from 1480 to 1550, it is more than that.

You’re one of those unserious people who thinks there is a meaningful difference between, say, a 1480 and 1530, aren’t you?

Again, go outside, touch grass.

it’s ok. uva has dumber students. this back and forth proves it

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a party school. The students are simply not as serious as those at GU and JHU. I'd go with GU- for a solid, well-rounded education.

This. Your peer group at GU and JHU will be more uniformly brighter. They have 7k and 6k students versus 17k at UVA and are much more selective. The student bodies will also be geographically diverse at GU and UVA which is a plus.

Thinking that any of these differences is particularly meaningful between these schools is what happens when you go way too far down the rabbit hole. Some of you need to come up for air.

No UVA in-state acceptance rate is 23-28% and test optional.

Georgetown is 11-12%- not yet on common app (will shrink) and test required

Hopkins is 4-6%



If you don’t think those numbers and 10-11k less students at GU and JHU don’t reflect an elevated student intellect….

50th SAT percentile of 1540 at Hopkins vs 1470 at UVA with almost the same percentages reporting. Yes, it is different, but this is not a “particularly meaningful” difference for student interactions nor is the peer group “uniformly” brighter. You are dealing with smart kids at one and smart kids at the other. Some of you are really way, way too lost in trees.

UVA's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1410 to 1520. 84% of UVa Freshman are in top 10% of class.

Source: https://ira.virginia.edu/sites/ira/files/2025-03/CDS_2024-2025_508.pdf

JHU's 25 to 75th percentile range is 1530 to 1560. 100% of JHU freshman are in top 10% of class

Source: https://oira.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/CDS_2024-2025_JHU.pdf

That is a huge difference no matter how you spin it.

Very low percentages of entering students have class rank reported these days. Half reporting standardized test and 20-25% class rank explains the high entering class stats reported.

Wow!!! 40% of admitted did not report any test scores. No scores=low scores.

Georgetown: 100% submitted scores.

That’s all I need to know about the student body.

jhu in 2019 had a 1480 to 1550 range for enrolled freshman. it wasnt close then between jhu and uva/georgetown and it wont be close now after jhu required test scores.

https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/08/22/class-of-2023-by-the-numbers/

Uva same time frame when test scores were required had a 1330 to 1500 range for comparison: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JdpaH_toZH8-ix6XVXpfr5qVCGskoBqB/view?usp=drivesdk

again, not close

Again, you’re talking about like half of the classes having overlapping scores. This isn’t the big deal you think it is, you’re just too fixated on obsessing over these numbers to realize it.

this suggests 70% of jhu freshman are above top 25% of UVa’s range. i dont think you understand what that means.

No, it does not. 25% are below 1480 and the number from 1480 to 1500 is not 5% of students in a middle 50 distribution that runs from 1480 to 1550, it is more than that.

You’re one of those unserious people who thinks there is a meaningful difference between, say, a 1480 and 1530, aren’t you?

Again, go outside, touch grass.

it’s ok. uva has dumber students. this back and forth proves it

The rebuttal of a person with no rebuttal.

I was a never a student there nor do I have a student there. I just find the myopia of the college admissions-obsessed crowd and their splitting of hairs to be exhausting.

[Anonymous]

JHU has some really exciting stuff going on for IR and public policy. Look at the new Agora center. The university is also pushing SAIS and the new school of public policy to offer more opportunities for undergrads; they just launched a semester DC residency. I've had several students do the five-year BA/MA program with SAIS, which involves a year at the SAIS Bologna campus and a year in DC.