MLS next ruining high school soccer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

Overall in the country MLS next is superior in our area. VDA AND Arlington have better coaches and players at the same level. These top coaches are being poached with $$$. Sadly in the next 5 years Arlington and VDA will be MLS next too and the dilution will continue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

Overall in the country MLS next is superior in our area. VDA AND Arlington have better coaches and players at the same level. These top coaches are being poached with $$$. Sadly in the next 5 years Arlington and VDA will be MLS next too and the dilution will continue

What size is your tinfoil hat?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

And that’s why University of Washington won the national championship with a team that was ALL ECNL players. Ok.

Yawn. Too many trying to kiss the (now diluted) MLS Next ring without knowing any better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

And that’s why University of Washington won the national championship with a team that was ALL ECNL players. Ok.

Yawn. Too many trying to kiss the (now diluted) MLS Next ring without knowing any better.

Too funny

I went to the University of Washington roster and the first name I clicked on is from a MLS Club Academy

Goalie from Seattle Sounders Academy

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Anonymous wrote:so OP - you came on here to complain about the rules you agreed to when you signed to your club and to brag that you are violating the rules because you don't think you'll be punished. got it.

I just wanted to see everyone's thoughts. Standing up to stupid rules is what makes people change the rules. Not allowing players to play more soccer is why our country will never win a world cup.

if you think violating rules you don't like is how to get people to change rules, you are mistaken. Same goes for complaining about it here.

Fair point. My son has decided to play for HS besides his NVA duties. If he is removed, he’ll join another MLS next club. I put the money down. NVA doesn’t pay my son to play for them.

Here's the deal. It's not a club rule. It's an MLS Next (HG/Academy) rule based on similar rules with overseas academies around exclusivity. It's no different than the way they own "training" rights if your kid wants to go overseas. None of those are negotiated points with a club, they're part of the charter for play and you inherit them when you accept the offer, whether you chose to read it or not. They delegate enforcement of high school to the clubs, which means that how much sway or influence a club has with MLS Next leadership to look the other way determines how strict they need to be on enforcement. In the DMV, it mostly means people stay quiet about it and the clubs don't look too closely. It can result in forfeits or other punishment by the national body, but generally nothing happens except a few kids each year having to quit high school ball partial way through the season.

True. I personally don't care if MLSN1 allows HS or not, what I hate is the blatant hypocrisy for how the current rule is set and 'enforced'. Either allow HS or don't but stop with the bullshit private school waivers and the complete lack of enforcement. It is a joke and makes the league look weak.

How many MLS Next HG players also play HS?
Should be an interesting number for sake of this dramatic emotional thread

Almost the entirety of Lightridge HS was MLS next. Hence why they’re current state 5 champions. It’s a lot simpler than you think it is. The squad was lightyears ahead of any other school.

Yeah this is true, along with riverside these are the only two decent Loudoun and I don’t think either of them would make it out of the division 6d region. This is why people in Loudoun hate on high school soccer. Fairfax is much better. The good news is they look on merging div 5 and 6 in the next few years and only have 4 divisions

I’m doubtful that it can deemed as ‘good news’. Furthermore, how do you suppose you schedule the 16-game season with an exorbitant amount of schools? Numbers don’t allow for a home and away format. Boom, there goes your equity. You also can’t schedule everyone once and you’d have some schools playing tougher competition and other getting easier matchups. Boom, another blow to equity.

Where did you hear this nonsense? Or are you really blowing some crazy loud?

It’s probably 2 years away but one of my buddies is an high school athletic director and the state is doing it because they are losing money. Most schools in div 6 don’t play everyone twice anymore. Expect conferences of 10 teams and you only play each other once with a few games outside your conference that don’t count really count for anything.

Athletic director in LCPS? Who’s losing money? And how?

[Anonymous]

Sounds like public school bull shit to me.

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Anonymous wrote:so OP - you came on here to complain about the rules you agreed to when you signed to your club and to brag that you are violating the rules because you don't think you'll be punished. got it.

I just wanted to see everyone's thoughts. Standing up to stupid rules is what makes people change the rules. Not allowing players to play more soccer is why our country will never win a world cup.

if you think violating rules you don't like is how to get people to change rules, you are mistaken. Same goes for complaining about it here.

Fair point. My son has decided to play for HS besides his NVA duties. If he is removed, he’ll join another MLS next club. I put the money down. NVA doesn’t pay my son to play for them.

Here's the deal. It's not a club rule. It's an MLS Next (HG/Academy) rule based on similar rules with overseas academies around exclusivity. It's no different than the way they own "training" rights if your kid wants to go overseas. None of those are negotiated points with a club, they're part of the charter for play and you inherit them when you accept the offer, whether you chose to read it or not. They delegate enforcement of high school to the clubs, which means that how much sway or influence a club has with MLS Next leadership to look the other way determines how strict they need to be on enforcement. In the DMV, it mostly means people stay quiet about it and the clubs don't look too closely. It can result in forfeits or other punishment by the national body, but generally nothing happens except a few kids each year having to quit high school ball partial way through the season.

True. I personally don't care if MLSN1 allows HS or not, what I hate is the blatant hypocrisy for how the current rule is set and 'enforced'. Either allow HS or don't but stop with the bullshit private school waivers and the complete lack of enforcement. It is a joke and makes the league look weak.

How many MLS Next HG players also play HS?
Should be an interesting number for sake of this dramatic emotional thread

Almost the entirety of Lightridge HS was MLS next. Hence why they’re current state 5 champions. It’s a lot simpler than you think it is. The squad was lightyears ahead of any other school.

Yeah this is true, along with riverside these are the only two decent Loudoun and I don’t think either of them would make it out of the division 6d region. This is why people in Loudoun hate on high school soccer. Fairfax is much better. The good news is they look on merging div 5 and 6 in the next few years and only have 4 divisions

I’m doubtful that it can deemed as ‘good news’. Furthermore, how do you suppose you schedule the 16-game season with an exorbitant amount of schools? Numbers don’t allow for a home and away format. Boom, there goes your equity. You also can’t schedule everyone once and you’d have some schools playing tougher competition and other getting easier matchups. Boom, another blow to equity.

Where did you hear this nonsense? Or are you really blowing some crazy loud?

It’s probably 2 years away but one of my buddies is an high school athletic director and the state is doing it because they are losing money. Most schools in div 6 don’t play everyone twice anymore. Expect conferences of 10 teams and you only play each other once with a few games outside your conference that don’t count really count for anything.

Athletic director in LCPS? Who’s losing money? And how?

VHSL had a meeting with all athletic directors a week and half ago. You can probably look it up somehow. This board is just full of people that hate on everything and know nothing about soccer. Once you U-13 parents have your kids in these leagues you will figure out how many empty promises they are feeding you.

[Anonymous]

Lightridge and Riverside aren’t losing mls next players and will once again be extremely stacked against fairly poor teams.

Not sure how the players will go about it with NVA, SYC, and DCU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MLS fines club if your kid plays HS

I have never heard of a player being fined

its not the player its the club. And yes it happens. Just takes a person to tell the league and they investigate. And plenty of parents willing to turn them in. Want to play crappy HS play in a different club league.

Well every club in the area should be fined thousands of dollars immediately. They are playing and this notion that is crappy at least in liberty district is insane. College coaches actually prefer they play some high school soccer, it gives a different level of competitiveness and playing for a school. I’m sorry to tell you that MLS next is not this level of soccer you are being told about. Most of the MLS next are not even playing college soccer and almost none (non academies are going pro). The best soccer team in the area last year was Arlington’s top u-19 team, they beat all the MLS next teams they played. MLS next is this area is a complete money scam and the fact that we have so many of them should make this obvious to anyone.

ECNL Dad, sit down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

And that’s why University of Washington won the national championship with a team that was ALL ECNL players. Ok.

Yawn. Too many trying to kiss the (now diluted) MLS Next ring without knowing any better.

Too funny

I went to the University of Washington roster and the first name I clicked on is from a MLS Club Academy

Goalie from Seattle Sounders Academy

What, someone on this site is fibbing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lightridge and Riverside aren’t losing mls next players and will once again be extremely stacked against fairly poor teams.

Not sure how the players will go about it with NVA, SYC, and DCU.

yes both are. But some of the boys are trying to convince friends to quit the club. Most of them are not playing at college level

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

And that’s why University of Washington won the national championship with a team that was ALL ECNL players. Ok.

Yawn. Too many trying to kiss the (now diluted) MLS Next ring without knowing any better.

Too funny

I went to the University of Washington roster and the first name I clicked on is from a MLS Club Academy

Goalie from Seattle Sounders Academy

What, someone on this site is fibbing?

Guess they forgot rosters have player bios

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one. Play ECNL. Plenty of good competitive teams in this area and they are supportive of not only HS but also college ID camps which MLs restricts

If your kid wants pro then stick it out with MLS or if they get into an academy as that is a step up than next - but otherwise it’s pretty interchangeable.

Alexandria and SYC aren’t any better than VDA and Arlington and college placement is similar for clubs in this area regardless of league.

Let your kid enjoy HS.

MLS Next is superior and more desirable for college recruiters

Don't be silly

Why aren't MLS Next kids enjoying HS? 🤣

And that’s why University of Washington won the national championship with a team that was ALL ECNL players. Ok.

Yawn. Too many trying to kiss the (now diluted) MLS Next ring without knowing any better.

Too funny

I went to the University of Washington roster and the first name I clicked on is from a MLS Club Academy

Goalie from Seattle Sounders Academy

Click on all the rest. Starting line up all ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:You only get one time in your life to play high school soccer. Do both this season and switch to an ECNL team for next year, they don't play at all in the spring due to HS soccer.

With only the parents in the stands

Bc there are so many fans at MLS Next games?

Then what makes HS better?

I heard the SJC-Gonzaga soccer game had more fans than the SJC-Gonzaga football game this year. HS soccer may not consistently get students attending, but they definitely come out for big games.

Big is quite subjective in this case

SJC rocks. Class of 2030 impact will be felt almost immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:You only get one time in your life to play high school soccer. Do both this season and switch to an ECNL team for next year, they don't play at all in the spring due to HS soccer.

With only the parents in the stands

Bc there are so many fans at MLS Next games?

Then what makes HS better?

I heard the SJC-Gonzaga soccer game had more fans than the SJC-Gonzaga football game this year. HS soccer may not consistently get students attending, but they definitely come out for big games.

Big is quite subjective in this case

SJC rocks. Class of 2030 impact will be felt almost immediately.

How would you even know that? Have decisions even come out? Also, we are j don't think anyone is watching soccer games unless it's a varsity game and it's a historically big rivalry.