Umich vs Georgetown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown requires high SAT scores. Michigan does not. The quality of the student body demonstrably reflects that.

And yet Michigan enrolls many more high-scoring students. So either Georgetown rejects high-scoring students in favor of lower scoring ones, or high-scoring students strongly prefer Michigan (or both).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In state, choose Michigan. Out of state, Georgetown.

I wouldn't pay $80K per year for OOS, even for Michigan (which is an amazing state school, probably the best in the country), but that's a personal choice. I'd choose smaller classes over football, but I concede that the unifying force of football is cool.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown requires high SAT scores. Michigan does not. The quality of the student body demonstrably reflects that.

And yet Michigan enrolls many more high-scoring students. So either Georgetown rejects high-scoring students in favor of lower scoring ones, or high-scoring students strongly prefer Michigan (or both).

Michigan is test-optional. 100% of the student body has to submit scores at Georgetown.

Geez. People still try to compare test optional (where only ppl with high scores submit and a good portion are so low they can’t submit) with test required schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which would you choose and why??

Squirrels vs rats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown requires high SAT scores. Michigan does not. The quality of the student body demonstrably reflects that.

And yet Michigan enrolls many more high-scoring students. So either Georgetown rejects high-scoring students in favor of lower scoring ones, or high-scoring students strongly prefer Michigan (or both).

Michigan is test-optional. 100% of the student body has to submit scores at Georgetown.

Geez. People still try to compare test optional (where only ppl with high scores submit and a good portion are so low they can’t submit) with test required schools.

No, I’m comparing numbers of students.

Georgetown has 1,239 FTFY students reporting SAT scores, with a 75th percentile score of 1530. That’s 310 students scoring 1530+

Michigan has 4,503 FTFY students reporting SAT scores, with a 75th percentile score of 1530. That’s 1,126 students scoring 1530+

1,126 is more than 3.5 times 310. As I said: “Michigan enrolls a lot more high-scoring students.”

[Anonymous]

They are so so different. I can’t imagine the sane kid would apply to both. Large public vs mid-size private Jesuit. One huge football school, the other D3 football. One in a major city where everyone lives on campus for 3 years in a tight community. One very very large. One Jesuit, one not.

Is it that hard? You’d have a strong reaction to one or the other. My kids did not apply to U Michigan for instance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown requires high SAT scores. Michigan does not. The quality of the student body demonstrably reflects that.

And yet Michigan enrolls many more high-scoring students. So either Georgetown rejects high-scoring students in favor of lower scoring ones, or high-scoring students strongly prefer Michigan (or both).

Michigan is test-optional. 100% of the student body has to submit scores at Georgetown.

Geez. People still try to compare test optional (where only ppl with high scores submit and a good portion are so low they can’t submit) with test required schools.

No, I’m comparing numbers of students.

Georgetown has 1,239 FTFY students reporting SAT scores, with a 75th percentile score of 1530. That’s 310 students scoring 1530+

Michigan has 4,503 FTFY students reporting SAT scores, with a 75th percentile score of 1530. That’s 1,126 students scoring 1530+

1,126 is more than 3.5 times 310. As I said: “Michigan enrolls a lot more high-scoring students.”

+1. The “it’s test optional so you can’t compare” crowd would struggle mightily on the SAT math section.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In state, choose Michigan. Out of state, Georgetown.

I wouldn't pay $80K per year for OOS, even for Michigan (which is an amazing state school, probably the best in the country), but that's a personal choice. I'd choose smaller classes over football, but I concede that the unifying force of football is cool.

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//In state, choose Michigan. Out of state, Georgetown.//

By this logic, you’d ditch Harvard for Gtown, since Harvard waives tuition for anyone whose family makes below $200k?

[Anonymous]

Georgetown is not much of a school to die for. It is a good school but it is not T-20

[Anonymous]

If Georgetown was juiced up with half a billion dollars to restore their buildings and improve their science departments, it would solidly be T20. Unfortunately we can’t materialize $500M out of thin air.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown for undergrad. UMich for grad.

[Anonymous]

not reading this whole thread, but Michigan feels richer when you walk around. Not the kids, but the buildings, interiors, landscaping, gyms, food. Just an overall nicer experience for, I'm guessing, a little less money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Georgetown was juiced up with half a billion dollars to restore their buildings and improve their science departments, it would solidly be T20. Unfortunately we can’t materialize $500M out of thin air.

But the same can be said of other schools: with another 500m, UMich would solidly be T15!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Georgetown was juiced up with half a billion dollars to restore their buildings and improve their science departments, it would solidly be T20. Unfortunately we can’t materialize $500M out of thin air.

Michigan can.

https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-donors-give-886m-in-fy-25/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are so so different. I can’t imagine the sane kid would apply to both. Large public vs mid-size private Jesuit. One huge football school, the other D3 football. One in a major city where everyone lives on campus for 3 years in a tight community. One very very large. One Jesuit, one not.

Is it that hard? You’d have a strong reaction to one or the other. My kids did not apply to U Michigan for instance.

Georgetown is D1 football…just FBS (I think that’s the lower tier of D1).