Low gpa strong SAT with strong math focus

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Do you have any other preferences on schools? vibe? Location?

Other than mid to large settings, she is flexible. Wants to stay in the US. I wish she would explore LACs or Uk but she is not interested.

[Anonymous]

This was 2 years ago but my similar stat kid (3.3 GPA 1560 SAT) was rejected by every reach and target they applied to, including CMU, Hopkins, UVA, VaTech, and Purdue. Please talk to a college counselor and apply to at least three true safeties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was 2 years ago but my similar stat kid (3.3 GPA 1560 SAT) was rejected by every reach and target they applied to, including CMU, Hopkins, UVA, VaTech, and Purdue. Please talk to a college counselor and apply to at least three true safeties.

Finally a useful post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Do you have any other preferences on schools? vibe? Location?

Other than mid to large settings, she is flexible. Wants to stay in the US. I wish she would explore LACs or Uk but she is not interested.

What geo area are you in?
I think Ingenius Prep specializes in cases like this - maybe do a feee consult? I suspect a IEC with a national profile and large volume of data will be more helpful
To you than most.

I’d look at your school’s specific data for UChicago.
Also look at UMiami and Wake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was 2 years ago but my similar stat kid (3.3 GPA 1560 SAT) was rejected by every reach and target they applied to, including CMU, Hopkins, UVA, VaTech, and Purdue. Please talk to a college counselor and apply to at least three true safeties.

Did they apply ED to CMU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Then she's in a good spot, as PhD admissions in math is mostly about your (ideally graduate-level) math background, letters of recommendation, and research experience. Certain schools are very strong at the graduate level while not being super selective at the undergrad level - Stony Brook might be the most extreme example, but realistically she should be fine at any of the R1s publics mentioned in my previous comment - OSU, NCSU, UGA, etc. as they are often flexible with students taking grad level courses early.

Does a particular area of math interest her? What area has her research been in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Then she's in a good spot, as PhD admissions in math is mostly about your (ideally graduate-level) math background, letters of recommendation, and research experience. Certain schools are very strong at the graduate level while not being super selective at the undergrad level - Stony Brook might be the most extreme example, but realistically she should be fine at any of the R1s publics mentioned in my previous comment - OSU, NCSU, UGA, etc. as they are often flexible with students taking grad level courses early.

Does a particular area of math interest her? What area has her research been in?

Her research was in Number Theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Then she's in a good spot, as PhD admissions in math is mostly about your (ideally graduate-level) math background, letters of recommendation, and research experience. Certain schools are very strong at the graduate level while not being super selective at the undergrad level - Stony Brook might be the most extreme example, but realistically she should be fine at any of the R1s publics mentioned in my previous comment - OSU, NCSU, UGA, etc. as they are often flexible with students taking grad level courses early.

Does a particular area of math interest her? What area has her research been in?

Her research was in Number Theory.

Private HS? Have you met with the counseling team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was 2 years ago but my similar stat kid (3.3 GPA 1560 SAT) was rejected by every reach and target they applied to, including CMU, Hopkins, UVA, VaTech, and Purdue. Please talk to a college counselor and apply to at least three true safeties.

Your kid was a girl who go in to one of ross, promys, canada/usa, sumac?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Then she's in a good spot, as PhD admissions in math is mostly about your (ideally graduate-level) math background, letters of recommendation, and research experience. Certain schools are very strong at the graduate level while not being super selective at the undergrad level - Stony Brook might be the most extreme example, but realistically she should be fine at any of the R1s publics mentioned in my previous comment - OSU, NCSU, UGA, etc. as they are often flexible with students taking grad level courses early.

Does a particular area of math interest her? What area has her research been in?

Her research was in Number Theory.

I suggest visiting some of the universities mentioned here and talking with professors about the academic opportunities, opportunities to meet major requirements using the grad level version of the courses, etc.

What's her pure math background? Has she studied any advanced math like advanced calculus, proof-based linear algebra, etc. ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CMU is a good idea. It’s very math oriented and wants more girls.

Yes I think it might be worth a YOLO ED if she likes the campus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Then she's in a good spot, as PhD admissions in math is mostly about your (ideally graduate-level) math background, letters of recommendation, and research experience. Certain schools are very strong at the graduate level while not being super selective at the undergrad level - Stony Brook might be the most extreme example, but realistically she should be fine at any of the R1s publics mentioned in my previous comment - OSU, NCSU, UGA, etc. as they are often flexible with students taking grad level courses early.

Does a particular area of math interest her? What area has her research been in?

Her research was in Number Theory.

And she's a junior?

Her strongest move at this moment might be to extend her research and find faculty at a target school to interact with or provide support or feedback. And then use that as admissions leverage. Did she make any connections through her camp / research?

Also, I would look at NYU/Courant bc they are expanding the institute into a separate college and will be looking for math standouts. (New/expanded offerings aren't quite as advantageous for admissions as under-enrolled majors -- but it could help.) See how kids from your school have fared there in the past few years? (But not Stern/Tisch)

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, what are her goals? Graduate school, the job market? What is the financial situation?

She wants to pursue a PhD. We are very comfortable financially. -op

Then she's in a good spot, as PhD admissions in math is mostly about your (ideally graduate-level) math background, letters of recommendation, and research experience. Certain schools are very strong at the graduate level while not being super selective at the undergrad level - Stony Brook might be the most extreme example, but realistically she should be fine at any of the R1s publics mentioned in my previous comment - OSU, NCSU, UGA, etc. as they are often flexible with students taking grad level courses early.

Does a particular area of math interest her? What area has her research been in?

Her research was in Number Theory.

And she's a junior?

Her strongest move at this moment might be to extend her research and find faculty at a target school to interact with or provide support or feedback. And then use that as admissions leverage. Did she make any connections through her camp / research?

Also, I would look at NYU/Courant bc they are expanding the institute into a separate college and will be looking for math standouts. (New/expanded offerings aren't quite as advantageous for admissions as under-enrolled majors -- but it could help.) See how kids from your school have fared there in the past few years? (But not Stern/Tisch)

Good luck!

There's no reason to believe they will be looking for more math students - it's a reshuffling, not an expansion of the undergraduate offering

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School context matters. If it's a top feeder like Harvard Westlake, there is nothing to worry about. They sent 3.2 to Chicago.

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Op should search that “levels” post about national private high schools.

There is no school in the country where unhooked kids from the bottom half of the class are going to Chicago. None.

This. I don’t know why OP doesn’t ask the school’s college counselor. No need to wait until the meeting is scheduled by him/her. IMHO, a kid who can do research, has good stem grades and a great SAT, will look lazy for phoning it for things the kid isn’t that interested in. Full capability but low desire and follow through in areas of low interest.

Yes. Unless from a top-20 nationally-known private HS, 3.4 is a red flag. Go to a bigger state school with a good enough math department including a math phd program. Shine there and top phD programs will be possible

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The gap between the sky’s the limit posters and actual admissions is huge. I really do think these posters are huge. And yes, my kid is at a rigorous DMV private. I’ve actually had two kids go through the cycle in the past four years (the kid this cycle in at a SCEA school).

A kid may get a little wiggle room with an impressive ec but gpa and where they place in high school class as a result is THE most important determinant for admission.