The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law

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Native Americans had their land stolen. I guess I'll pay for slave reparations as soon as black, white, asian, and hispanic americans agree they gotta pay Native Americans for living on their land.

Oh yeah, all races of Americans also owe native Hawaiians trillions of dollars for stealing their islands.
Pony up. That goes for all races, if we are going to go down the rabbit hole of history.
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Anonymous wrote:The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law. Let’s clarify what the Civil Rights movement and the the 1968 Civil Rights Act aimed for:

- it was a promise to future generations that our government would never again prioritize one race over another.

This bill (now a Maryland law) undermines the unifying purpose of the Civil Rights movement.


It's hard to be "unified" when a major group in the US is still feeling the lingering effects of systemic racism.

If you don't want to prioritize one race over another, then everyone should dump ALL of their wealth together and then split it evenly across everyone in the US. We can start over so that white people aren't continued to be prioritized over everyone else - we all start off equal.



You do realize the wealthiest racial group in the US isn't white, don't you?


Uhm what? Where did you come up with that tid bit?


Asian median wealth is significantly higher than white median wealth in the US. Did you not know this? Would you like me to share some references?


I'd love that. And who would be getting the reparations again? Is the Asians?




…and how many Asian people are there?

You suck at math.


How is that relevant? Are you suggesting cumulative wealth by racial group is somehow meaningful?



The median income of a group that is only 7% of the US population is irrelevant.

White people possess ~80% of the wealth (and power) in the US. If we redistributed wealth, it'd primarily be coming from white people.



Then perhaps the median income of a group that's only 13% of the population is also irrelevant. Where do you draw the line?
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Anonymous wrote:That some people, of whatever race or nationality, were badly treated in the past, is not in dispute.

It's beyond absurd to suggest that there is any rational and reasonable way to compensate any of them. They are all long dead.

What can and should be done is to eliminate those conditions. That has been done. Nobody is presently or even was recently enslaved in this country. Nothing holds anyone back, no matter their race or country of origin, which they cannot themselves control - education, work ethic, ambition, values - all are freely available. Some people, fail to take advantage of those things. Others have been very successful. Those outcomes, good or bad, are due to their efforts, not on the history of centuries past.



To add to what you said, some people failing to take advantage of those things and others being very successful happens within each racial group as well, of course.
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Good thing we have 49 other states to move to.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see how this could begin to work logistically. Would people have to prove their ancestors were enslaved in Maryland? Or enslaved anywhere in the world? If you have one Black parent, would you get 50% of a reparation? If your white great great great great grandfather enslaved people but your black great great great great grandmother was enslaved, and your other great greats were neither, would you get 8%? What if your Black ancestors were enslaved but freed in 1790 - would you get less than those who were enslaved through the Civil War?

Maryland has a huge Black population, so wouldn’t this be essentially taking from their tax dollars … to in theory pay them?

How much will this Commission cost taxpayers before a cent is spent on reparations? What is its FY26-27 budget?



It’s not doable. In addition there are many wealthy black families, especially in Maryland.
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Anonymous wrote:Good thing we have 49 other states to move to.



+100
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Anonymous wrote:Good thing we have 49 other states to move to.


It is 50 other states, jerk.

Just because the MAGAs refuse to recognize DC as a state doesn’t mean it isn’t a state.
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Anonymous wrote:Im of Irish decent. The Irish never owned slaves, never benefitted, from slaves and never enacted all the racist laws WASPS put in place.

Why should I pay anything?

This makes me want Trump to hammer the state of MD for this. Pull all fed jobs and fed funding from MD, please.


You have absolutely benefitted from slavery.


How about those of us who were not in the US at that time? No benefit except a few rich owners. Most people never owned salves.
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Anonymous wrote:Good thing we have 49 other states to move to.


It is 50 other states, jerk.

Just because the MAGAs refuse to recognize DC as a state doesn’t mean it isn’t a state.


Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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Anonymous wrote:That some people, of whatever race or nationality, were badly treated in the past, is not in dispute.

It's beyond absurd to suggest that there is any rational and reasonable way to compensate any of them. They are all long dead.

What can and should be done is to eliminate those conditions. That has been done. Nobody is presently or even was recently enslaved in this country. Nothing holds anyone back, no matter their race or country of origin, which they cannot themselves control - education, work ethic, ambition, values - all are freely available. Some people, fail to take advantage of those things. Others have been very successful. Those outcomes, good or bad, are due to their efforts, not on the history of centuries past.



False.

The impact from centuries of enslavement and institutional racism (Jim crow laws, redlining) doesn’t just disappear overnight.

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Anonymous wrote:The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law. Let’s clarify what the Civil Rights movement and the the 1968 Civil Rights Act aimed for:

- it was a promise to future generations that our government would never again prioritize one race over another.

This bill (now a Maryland law) undermines the unifying purpose of the Civil Rights movement.


It's hard to be "unified" when a major group in the US is still feeling the lingering effects of systemic racism.

If you don't want to prioritize one race over another, then everyone should dump ALL of their wealth together and then split it evenly across everyone in the US. We can start over so that white people aren't continued to be prioritized over everyone else - we all start off equal.



You do realize the wealthiest racial group in the US isn't white, don't you?


Uhm what? Where did you come up with that tid bit?


Asian median wealth is significantly higher than white median wealth in the US. Did you not know this? Would you like me to share some references?


I'd love that. And who would be getting the reparations again? Is the Asians?




…and how many Asian people are there?

You suck at math.


How is that relevant? Are you suggesting cumulative wealth by racial group is somehow meaningful?



The median income of a group that is only 7% of the US population is irrelevant.

White people possess ~80% of the wealth (and power) in the US. If we redistributed wealth, it'd primarily be coming from white people.



Then perhaps the median income of a group that's only 13% of the population is also irrelevant. Where do you draw the line?


The discussion was who is primarily going to pay for reparations, not if the government is obligated to pay reparations.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?



Because you wouldn't be here to be a first or second generation America without the Civil Rights Act of 1965. It was in fact the NAACP and other Foundational Black Americans who lobbied Congress to allow poor oppressed "people of color" to come here to rebuild their lives. If you weren't white before 1965, America limited its number of migrants. You should pay a 25% tax to American Blacks for that alone. More importantly, the Supreme Court is about to hand Trump a legal victory based off the 14th amendment and exclude immigrants. Of course if Trump has his way, he might write an executive order allowing him to "snatch back" your citizenship if your parents were not citizens. If I were you I would be blessing the feet of American Descendants of Slaves aka Foundational Black Americans because the plight of others is about to get even worse... Vance is likely going to be President after Trump and he will likely be 2.5x worse ..... no one has seen how bad it's about to really get.
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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?



Because you wouldn't be here to be a first or second generation America without the Civil Rights Act of 1965. It was in fact the NAACP and other Foundational Black Americans who lobbied Congress to allow poor oppressed "people of color" to come here to rebuild their lives. If you weren't white before 1965, America limited its number of migrants. You should pay a 25% tax to American Blacks for that alone. More importantly, the Supreme Court is about to hand Trump a legal victory based off the 14th amendment and exclude immigrants. Of course if Trump has his way, he might write an executive order allowing him to "snatch back" your citizenship if your parents were not citizens. If I were you I would be blessing the feet of American Descendants of Slaves aka Foundational Black Americans because the plight of others is about to get even worse... Vance is likely going to be President after Trump and he will likely be 2.5x worse ..... no one has seen how bad it's about to really get.


You guys were/are so stupid to support that. We're going to kee coming and advocate for what's best for us and it definitely is not reparations to anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law. Let’s clarify what the Civil Rights movement and the the 1968 Civil Rights Act aimed for:

- it was a promise to future generations that our government would never again prioritize one race over another.

This bill (now a Maryland law) undermines the unifying purpose of the Civil Rights movement.


giving reparations to one particular group is probably going to result in the 14th amendment being brought up in a court of law.


Personally I don’t see any reason for the government to give any reparations to groups I’m a member of, so I have no problem with reparations being paid to descendants of enslaved people and not to me.


What about the Japanese in internment camps, the Jews refused entry during the holocaust, Native Americans?


My Jewish ancestors arrived here between 1880 and 1915, and I’m not aware of any relatives who tried to come here during WW2 (they were mostly from places where anyone who stayed and survived pogroms would likely have died in the Russian revolution and WW1). So like I said, I see no reason for reparations for me. But I have no problem with reparations for other groups, including the Japanese who were interned.
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Cory Booker's baby bonds idea has been the best equity tool I have seen so far. We could do something like that. I think it would work better nationally.

It is a tool that helps build wealth moreso for those with lower incomes. Which means, disproportionately, African Americans. It is universal in structure so not explicitly tied to race, but will have a racially equitable impact by providing more wealth to lower income children.
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