What in the world is happening at Carson?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Most of the shoving I see seems to be good natured and not angry fighting, it is almost like their way of showing affection. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that the MSs are full of boys shoving and wrestling with each other.

Good-natured? Showing affection?

If the students have been told to stop touching each other, they need to stop. Period.

Parents need to cut out this garbage with "They're just being boys" or "It's just friendly play."

Absolutely not. It is defiance. The schools have been very clear that the students are not to touch each other and that shoving for any reason is unacceptable. When parents continue to excuse this defiant behavior, they are setting their kids up for failure.

You can see the behavior and tell them to stop, which I do, and recognize that for most of the kids the behavior is not about trying to hurt anyone or being mean. Both can be true. the pushing and shoving is annoying and obnoxious and bothersome to everyone around them. I tell them to stop. But I can see that they are goofing off and that is how a good number of them interact with each other.

I would guess that the bigger issue is the kids using slurs and sexually inappropriate comments. Not ok, offensive and damaging.

[Anonymous]

My son is at Marshall now, but this was not his experience at Kilmer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The boys use lots of bad language. It just flows. They use all the derogatory words in the bad word book, too. They also slap in back of head and intentionally trip people. It’s not playful, it’s dangerous in the halls and class entrances.

+1. Also, pantsing, sexual noises, and fighting in the bathrooms. This is why our gen ed classes are 75% male.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Most of the shoving I see seems to be good natured and not angry fighting, it is almost like their way of showing affection. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that the MSs are full of boys shoving and wrestling with each other.

Good-natured? Showing affection?

If the students have been told to stop touching each other, they need to stop. Period.

Parents need to cut out this garbage with "They're just being boys" or "It's just friendly play."

Absolutely not. It is defiance. The schools have been very clear that the students are not to touch each other and that shoving for any reason is unacceptable. When parents continue to excuse this defiant behavior, they are setting their kids up for failure.

100% this. If your boys are told to stop touching each other, they need to stop. ENOUGH with letting your boys get away with everything. Parents like that PP are why we have incels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boys use lots of bad language. It just flows. They use all the derogatory words in the bad word book, too. They also slap in back of head and intentionally trip people. It’s not playful, it’s dangerous in the halls and class entrances.

+1. Also, pantsing, sexual noises, and fighting in the bathrooms. This is why our gen ed classes are 75% male.

We are choosing all Honors classes for my daughter next year - she SHOULD be in gen ed classes, but the one she's in this year is a nightmare (it really is 75% boys).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Most of the shoving I see seems to be good natured and not angry fighting, it is almost like their way of showing affection. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that the MSs are full of boys shoving and wrestling with each other.

Good-natured? Showing affection?

If the students have been told to stop touching each other, they need to stop. Period.

Parents need to cut out this garbage with "They're just being boys" or "It's just friendly play."

Absolutely not. It is defiance. The schools have been very clear that the students are not to touch each other and that shoving for any reason is unacceptable. When parents continue to excuse this defiant behavior, they are setting their kids up for failure.

100% this. If your boys are told to stop touching each other, they need to stop. ENOUGH with letting your boys get away with everything. Parents like that PP are why we have incels.

Exactly, their "playing" is not acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I asked my Carson student if anything unusual had been happening at school (fights, kids lingering in the hallways, kids being rude to teachers) and he said he wasn't aware of anything like that. He did, however, say that his English teacher told his class that they are the worst class that she has ever had and that she frequently pulls aside one table of girls and teaches just them and ignores the rest of the room, so I hope the teachers got a similar email from the principal about respectful behavior.

🙄

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is at Marshall now, but this was not his experience at Kilmer.

I had a kid at Kilmer/Marshall a while back, and it absolutely happened at Kilmer. The only time the kids ever saw the principal (she left a year later) was when she occasionally emerged to yell at the kids not to touch each other in the halls between classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:they shutdown school for years what do they expect? COVID shutdown was way worse the people talk about

Oh, aaaaaabsolutely not. It’s nearly 2026. Sorry, your COVID Excuse Card is *long* expired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:they shutdown school for years what do they expect? COVID shutdown was way worse the people talk about

Oh, aaaaaabsolutely not. It’s nearly 2026. Sorry, your COVID Excuse Card is *long* expired.

+1

If your kid is out of control, socially-maladjusted, and acting like an animal, that is 100% on YOU. It has NOTHING to do with something that occurred 5.5 years ago. Be a freaking parent and get your child under control.