Let a coworker use my address for a good school pyramid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not want my kids going to a dangerous, bad-academic-quality, school like Justice.

Would you want your kids to try to learn in that environment?

Another poster writing nonsense about a school they know nothing about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not want my kids going to a dangerous, bad-academic-quality, school like Justice.

Would you want your kids to try to learn in that environment?

Another poster writing nonsense about a school they know nothing about.

Whole thread is fake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No, of course not. This is fraud. She has a lot of nerve to ask a co-worker! I have heard of people using grandparents' addresses, but this is next level!

Right!! That is next level brazen fraud. I’m tempted to ask what the ethnicity or background or even religion is here…

Can you explain why you think this is brazen fraud? Fraud is to obtain something of value by deceptive means, but the school board members are on record as purportedly believing that the high schools are all the same quality and fungible (that’s how they try to sell the boundary changes to families). Just not sure what thing of value is obtained through this. Different story if the person lives outside of Fairfax.

Are you unfamiliar with public schools? How can you not know this is fraud and policed by the school district. Everyone knows this. That’s why proof of residence is sometimes requested. We had to show proof of property tax payments to Langley

I’m very familiar with public schools.

What I’m pointing out is that there is no financial or personal gain in the eyes of FCPS. If i were arguing on behalf of an in-county family charged for using a fake address, exhibit A in our filings would be a compilation of the school board members statements repeatedly saying all the FCPS schools are the same quality, thus no personal gain in going to Langley. The gain is an element of the fraud claim.

I understand that you believe school quality differs, I do too. Most people believe that in fact. But when the system pretends that they are the same, there is a tailor-made defense to allegations of fraud.

Btw, the members make those claims in support of the comprehensive boundary review. If they claimed otherwise then it would be an admission that the boundary review will result in many families getting screwed over.

P.S. I’m confident that your last sentence is incorrect and that you didn’t need to show proof of tax payments to Langley, whatever that means.

NP.


That is quite the justification for fraud; actionable fraud.

[Anonymous]

The issue nominee wants to touch here is a simple fact;

- Justice is low-class while Langley is high-class.

Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, of course not. This is fraud. She has a lot of nerve to ask a co-worker! I have heard of people using grandparents' addresses, but this is next level!

Right!! That is next level brazen fraud. I’m tempted to ask what the ethnicity or background or even religion is here…

Can you explain why you think this is brazen fraud? Fraud is to obtain something of value by deceptive means, but the school board members are on record as purportedly believing that the high schools are all the same quality and fungible (that’s how they try to sell the boundary changes to families). Just not sure what thing of value is obtained through this. Different story if the person lives outside of Fairfax.

Are you unfamiliar with public schools? How can you not know this is fraud and policed by the school district. Everyone knows this. That’s why proof of residence is sometimes requested. We had to show proof of property tax payments to Langley

I’m very familiar with public schools.

What I’m pointing out is that there is no financial or personal gain in the eyes of FCPS. If i were arguing on behalf of an in-county family charged for using a fake address, exhibit A in our filings would be a compilation of the school board members statements repeatedly saying all the FCPS schools are the same quality, thus no personal gain in going to Langley. The gain is an element of the fraud claim.

I understand that you believe school quality differs, I do too. Most people believe that in fact. But when the system pretends that they are the same, there is a tailor-made defense to allegations of fraud.

Btw, the members make those claims in support of the comprehensive boundary review. If they claimed otherwise then it would be an admission that the boundary review will result in many families getting screwed over.

P.S. I’m confident that your last sentence is incorrect and that you didn’t need to show proof of tax payments to Langley, whatever that means.

NP.


That is quite the justification for fraud; actionable fraud.

I mean, I’m not going to take the time to explain it any clearer than I already did. Fraud requires a benefit and there is a clear defense to that element of the claim.

[Anonymous]

So why lie to get into one school rather than go to the school in your neighborhood? The liar believes they are getting something of value. Otherwise, why lie?

The liar’s perception of value vs. the achool board’s perception

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why lie to get into one school rather than go to the school in your neighborhood? The liar believes they are getting something of value. Otherwise, why lie?

The liar’s perception of value vs. the achool board’s perception

If charged with fraud, the burden is on the county to show the value. The allegations in the complaint would have to be along the lines that Langley has more value than Justice. Fraud must be pleaded with particularity.

Dear reader, in what world would the county ever make that claim?

[Anonymous]

Why have school boundaries at all? Why not just let people enroll their kids wherever they want and add trailers if there aren’t enough seats in the building?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why lie to get into one school rather than go to the school in your neighborhood? The liar believes they are getting something of value. Otherwise, why lie?

The liar’s perception of value vs. the achool board’s perception

If charged with fraud, the burden is on the county to show the value. The allegations in the complaint would have to be along the lines that Langley has more value than Justice. Fraud must be pleaded with particularity.

Dear reader, in what world would the county ever make that claim?

Why would the liar lie?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why lie to get into one school rather than go to the school in your neighborhood? The liar believes they are getting something of value. Otherwise, why lie?

The liar’s perception of value vs. the achool board’s perception

If charged with fraud, the burden is on the county to show the value. The allegations in the complaint would have to be along the lines that Langley has more value than Justice. Fraud must be pleaded with particularity.

Dear reader, in what world would the county ever make that claim?

Why would the liar lie?

Because, as we all know, there is a difference in school quality in FCPS. The school board members can’t acknowledge that because then it’s revealed that they pick winners and losers with the comprehensive boundary changes.

[Anonymous]

I wonder how school districts across the county, in hundreds of school boundary fraud cases, prove the elements of fraud?

Hmmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how school districts across the county, in hundreds of school boundary fraud cases, prove the elements of fraud?

Hmmm.

Please point us to the docket for any of those cases. Like literally just one of the supposed “hundreds” of cases.

[Anonymous]

The rule is absolutely clear: students must attend the school for which they are zoned.

Question is:

- why should the OP follow the rules?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rule is absolutely clear: students must attend the school for which they are zoned.

Question is:

- why should the OP follow the rules?

Sure; break the law. Why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rule is absolutely clear: students must attend the school for which they are zoned.

Question is:

- why should the OP follow the rules?

For over 100 years white families have been using fake addresses to attend better schools. Black and brown students didn’t have this option until desegregation. They weren’t allowed to live in better neighborhoods and as a result could never acquire as much wealth through buying property as white families. This lack of inherited wealth continues to marginalize many families of color because the schools in poorer areas are worse.

How can people not understand school boundaries in this country are really a form of continued segregation that continues to benefit upper middle class children.

Restorative justice and closing continuation schools affects schools in poorer areas because poor minority students who want to learn and get ahead have their education continually disrupted by 10 to 20% of students who wreak havoc at poor schools.