Will Thomas Taylor Survive the Massive Changes He is Introducing?

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Anonymous wrote:The regional magnet model is a good one. Y’all are tearing it down before it has even begun.

It is really bad for the kids in the DCC and NEC. They lose choice, programs are being downgraded from consortium-wide to local, at the same time, some of those schools are losing hundreds of students to boundary changes. That will mean staff and budget cuts.

You mean, some of those absurdly overcrowded schools will finally be able to fit all their students inside their buildings.

You mean, hundreds of students will be forced out of some of the most popular schools in the county, and cut off from choice and programs they've enjoyed for decades.

It makes zero sense to allow students to opt in to overcrowded schools.

Wootton is under-capacity. Crown is new. Let’s move the entire SMCS program there! Problem solved! Oh, wait, isn’t SMCS introduced to Blair because of the motivation for breaking down the social economic wall and reducing inequity?

They put the magnets at lower income schools to raise up the test and other scores. Its not about capacity its about scores/

Nope

The specialized programs were put in specific schools to boost the test scores of the struggling schools. It wasn't random.

No, they were not put in specific schools to boost test scores.

LOL
Dream on

Then why were they put at these schools?

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Anonymous wrote:The regional magnet model is a good one. Y’all are tearing it down before it has even begun.

It is really bad for the kids in the DCC and NEC. They lose choice, programs are being downgraded from consortium-wide to local, at the same time, some of those schools are losing hundreds of students to boundary changes. That will mean staff and budget cuts.

You mean, some of those absurdly overcrowded schools will finally be able to fit all their students inside their buildings.

You mean, hundreds of students will be forced out of some of the most popular schools in the county, and cut off from choice and programs they've enjoyed for decades.

It makes zero sense to allow students to opt in to overcrowded schools.

Wootton is under-capacity. Crown is new. Let’s move the entire SMCS program there! Problem solved! Oh, wait, isn’t SMCS introduced to Blair because of the motivation for breaking down the social economic wall and reducing inequity?

They put the magnets at lower income schools to raise up the test and other scores. Its not about capacity its about scores/

Nope

The specialized programs were put in specific schools to boost the test scores of the struggling schools. It wasn't random.

No, they were not put in specific schools to boost test scores.

Why are you lying?

[Anonymous]

Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

The magnet program began in 1985, precisely to bus students into Montgomery Blair HS, which then had poorest catchment area in the county. It's still has very high poverty neighborhoods. MCPS succeeded over the past 40-plus years in creating a highly desirable high school. Hopefully the changes don't negatively affect what made Blair a national success story over the past half century.

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

This is the major problem. It's a whole-county school system, not a local-town school system. An obligation of the system is to provide reasonably equivalent programming to meet individual need.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to buy a home in one location over another within the county -- proximity to work, to non-public destinations (e.g., houses of worship, favorite restaurants/nightlife, etc.), to friends/neighbors, etc. Variation in the quality of schooling available within the system should not be among them, and placing the burden of a housing move on the population to achieve that addressing of academic need not only is terribly unjust (individually)/inequitable (based on the distribution of current differences and the relative capacity to make such a move), but also is terribly societally inefficient/costly (when the burdens of those moves arebcompared to the cost of ensuring that each school lically offers that reasonable equivalence).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

This is the major problem. It's a whole-county school system, not a local-town school system. An obligation of the system is to provide reasonably equivalent programming to meet individual need.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to buy a home in one location over another within the county -- proximity to work, to non-public destinations (e.g., houses of worship, favorite restaurants/nightlife, etc.), to friends/neighbors, etc. Variation in the quality of schooling available within the system should not be among them, and placing the burden of a housing move on the population to achieve that addressing of academic need not only is terribly unjust (individually)/inequitable (based on the distribution of current differences and the relative capacity to make such a move), but also is terribly societally inefficient/costly (when the burdens of those moves arebcompared to the cost of ensuring that each school lically offers that reasonable equivalence).

And, that's fine, but then don't bus your kids cross county when your school has the opportuntiies your kids need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

This is the major problem. It's a whole-county school system, not a local-town school system. An obligation of the system is to provide reasonably equivalent programming to meet individual need.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to buy a home in one location over another within the county -- proximity to work, to non-public destinations (e.g., houses of worship, favorite restaurants/nightlife, etc.), to friends/neighbors, etc. Variation in the quality of schooling available within the system should not be among them, and placing the burden of a housing move on the population to achieve that addressing of academic need not only is terribly unjust (individually)/inequitable (based on the distribution of current differences and the relative capacity to make such a move), but also is terribly societally inefficient/costly (when the burdens of those moves arebcompared to the cost of ensuring that each school lically offers that reasonable equivalence).

And, that's fine, but then don't bus your kids cross county when your school has the opportuntiies your kids need.

If it were that way, why would someone want to? Except, perhaps, to access particular subject-specific programming of a highly compatible magnet, of course (which would work in both directions).

But, then, we'd have to have that be the case, which it isn't (but could be!). Can't expect folks not to push for access (via bussing or otherwise) when the current inequitable paradigm is in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

This is the major problem. It's a whole-county school system, not a local-town school system. An obligation of the system is to provide reasonably equivalent programming to meet individual need.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to buy a home in one location over another within the county -- proximity to work, to non-public destinations (e.g., houses of worship, favorite restaurants/nightlife, etc.), to friends/neighbors, etc. Variation in the quality of schooling available within the system should not be among them, and placing the burden of a housing move on the population to achieve that addressing of academic need not only is terribly unjust (individually)/inequitable (based on the distribution of current differences and the relative capacity to make such a move), but also is terribly societally inefficient/costly (when the burdens of those moves arebcompared to the cost of ensuring that each school lically offers that reasonable equivalence).

And, that's fine, but then don't bus your kids cross county when your school has the opportuntiies your kids need.

If it were that way, why would someone want to? Except, perhaps, to access particular subject-specific programming of a highly compatible magnet, of course (which would work in both directions).

But, then, we'd have to have that be the case, which it isn't (but could be!). Can't expect folks not to push for access (via bussing or otherwise) when the current inequitable paradigm is in place.

The inequity is the W schools have lots of stem, other schools do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

This is what makes no sense to me. You move away or don't choose a community because of the school but then bus your kids there. There are plenty of smart kids in the DCC who could fill the spots or even if its regional. Most end up going to MC Senior year as their schools don't have the class offerings.

This is the major problem. It's a whole-county school system, not a local-town school system. An obligation of the system is to provide reasonably equivalent programming to meet individual need.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to buy a home in one location over another within the county -- proximity to work, to non-public destinations (e.g., houses of worship, favorite restaurants/nightlife, etc.), to friends/neighbors, etc. Variation in the quality of schooling available within the system should not be among them, and placing the burden of a housing move on the population to achieve that addressing of academic need not only is terribly unjust (individually)/inequitable (based on the distribution of current differences and the relative capacity to make such a move), but also is terribly societally inefficient/costly (when the burdens of those moves arebcompared to the cost of ensuring that each school lically offers that reasonable equivalence).

And, that's fine, but then don't bus your kids cross county when your school has the opportuntiies your kids need.

If it were that way, why would someone want to? Except, perhaps, to access particular subject-specific programming of a highly compatible magnet, of course (which would work in both directions).

But, then, we'd have to have that be the case, which it isn't (but could be!). Can't expect folks not to push for access (via bussing or otherwise) when the current inequitable paradigm is in place.

The inequity is the W schools have lots of stem, other schools do not.

It's more than just STEM.

[Anonymous]

I hope he does, because I like what he is doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The regional magnet model is a good one. Y’all are tearing it down before it has even begun.

It is really bad for the kids in the DCC and NEC. They lose choice, programs are being downgraded from consortium-wide to local, at the same time, some of those schools are losing hundreds of students to boundary changes. That will mean staff and budget cuts.

You mean, some of those absurdly overcrowded schools will finally be able to fit all their students inside their buildings.

You mean, hundreds of students will be forced out of some of the most popular schools in the county, and cut off from choice and programs they've enjoyed for decades.

It makes zero sense to allow students to opt in to overcrowded schools.

Wootton is under-capacity. Crown is new. Let’s move the entire SMCS program there! Problem solved! Oh, wait, isn’t SMCS introduced to Blair because of the motivation for breaking down the social economic wall and reducing inequity?

They put the magnets at lower income schools to raise up the test and other scores. Its not about capacity its about scores/

Nope

The specialized programs were put in specific schools to boost the test scores of the struggling schools. It wasn't random.

No, they were not put in specific schools to boost test scores.

Of course they were. This is well established and not unique to MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The regional magnet model is a good one. Y’all are tearing it down before it has even begun.

It is really bad for the kids in the DCC and NEC. They lose choice, programs are being downgraded from consortium-wide to local, at the same time, some of those schools are losing hundreds of students to boundary changes. That will mean staff and budget cuts.

You mean, some of those absurdly overcrowded schools will finally be able to fit all their students inside their buildings.

You mean, hundreds of students will be forced out of some of the most popular schools in the county, and cut off from choice and programs they've enjoyed for decades.

It makes zero sense to allow students to opt in to overcrowded schools.

Wootton is under-capacity. Crown is new. Let’s move the entire SMCS program there! Problem solved! Oh, wait, isn’t SMCS introduced to Blair because of the motivation for breaking down the social economic wall and reducing inequity?

They put the magnets at lower income schools to raise up the test and other scores. Its not about capacity its about scores/

Nope

The specialized programs were put in specific schools to boost the test scores of the struggling schools. It wasn't random.

No, they were not put in specific schools to boost test scores.

Of course they were. This is well established and not unique to MCPS.

There are two main reasons why a school district locates special programs in specific schools:

1) To stem white flight (aka middle class flight) and to boost test scores

OR 2) it's a smaller school district and an in-demand program is simply located at a centrally located school for transportation and other logistical or cost reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Montgomery Blair became a magnet decades ago to stem white flight. That is widely known, and has been written about.

Apparently Taylor is not aware even though it happened when he was a HSchooler at BCC (guess he must be very busy with varsity sports and stuff). Like Whitman parents argued here, they didn't want their kids to apply Blair SMCS at the first place due to long commute. Therefore, after subtracting the W's study body, Blair SMCS will decline rapidly. The county can rest back on their own segregation of people-alike.

He was likely born in 78 if he graduated in 96 so would have been 6 or 7 when the Blair magnet opened. I thought you W school folks were all about math lol.