New presentation on program analysis and boundary study up

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That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

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Anonymous wrote:So under this would existing PLTW schools lose their programs if they aren’t listed as offering an engineering program? Or is that considered a local program?

More broadly, what is the definition of a local program that is not centrally managed?

It's a program that the school offers to its own students who express interest, not one that's on this list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ovH1xt873E-0-dqjWCz00koPlHeACK6YwyekZ9zngQ/preview?tab=t.0

Is Project Lead the Way a local program or a centrally managed one?

MCPS purchases the curriculum:

https://www.pltw.org

So does that mean it's centrally controlled? If so, then a bunch of schools that currently offer it will be losing it.

No, centrally controlled programs are ones where students have to apply through central office. Locally controlled programs are run by the school just for their own students. There are some centrally controlled PLTW programs and some locally controlled ones, depending on the school.

They are removing some current local programs. For example, Einstein will no longer have IB. Compare the assets analysis with where the programs are - lots of current local programs will be going away.

No, that's a misinterpretation. The slides with the new programs by region are only including the centrally managed regional programs, not the local programs which a school may also have.

No, these programs are listed as assets earlier in the presentation - seems clear to me they will be gettig rid of them. There are local programs that are not listed as assets. Those are the ones that will stay. For example, BCC has a media studies certificate program. That's a true local program, the type that will stay.

Nope, they're listed as assets because they need to know who offers IB classes of any kind in order to decide who will offer the regional IB program... it would obviously be dumb to pick a Region 1 school at random rather than considering which ones already have local IB and picking one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.

They may in fact keep all of them. Nothing is decided yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...

Why does BCC have HUMANITIES and an IB program?

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa, the breakdown of which programs will be at which high schools is interesting...

Why does BCC have HUMANITIES and an IB program?

Why not?

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

On-level classes do not provide rigor, and often, honors classes don't either. Some schools have honors for all.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Very few kids actually graduate with an IB degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Einstein IB locally managed? So they could keep IB and performing arts? We chose Einstein in good faith through the DCC process and it’s so disheartening to try and make sense of all of this when there been zero transparent engagement with DCC families. I how the BoE stands up to this.

The performing arts are minimal at Einstein. They aren't being allocated enough teachers and resources to make it a true performing arts program. BOE doesn't care what families think. They wasted money for all these boundary studies and now are going to spend many millions more to impliment this while they are screaming poverty.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Einstein IB locally managed? So they could keep IB and performing arts? We chose Einstein in good faith through the DCC process and it’s so disheartening to try and make sense of all of this when there been zero transparent engagement with DCC families. I how the BoE stands up to this.

The performing arts are minimal at Einstein. They aren't being allocated enough teachers and resources to make it a true performing arts program. BOE doesn't care what families think. They wasted money for all these boundary studies and now are going to spend many millions more to impliment this while they are screaming poverty.

Between stripping the system of its flagship programs of rigor (which happens when you limit enrollment areas); standing up numerous new programs; no real investment in teacher training and professional program coordination with these new programs; and the chaos of new regional relationships, we are doing too much too quickly with not enough support.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.

They may in fact keep all of them. Nothing is decided yet.

Great. So we should sit back and wait until it is decided, and then discuss the merits?

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.

They may in fact keep all of them. Nothing is decided yet.

Great. So we should sit back and wait until it is decided, and then discuss the merits?

Discuss all you want to. The point was just that nothing's been taken away.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Very few kids actually graduate with an IB degree.

It pass the IB tests

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I thought. And for kids in the IB track at Einstein in theory they are supposed to be able to complete it. Test results aren’t the only markers of results. IB exposure helps with critical thinking in college and beyond. It’s really terrible to take a school with a high FARMS population and limit it intentionally. Sadly it doesn’t surprise me at all.

Your view is that honors classes and on level classes don't help critical thinking? Only IB students get an education with fundamentals? And THAT would be OK for FARMS students?

Why can’t they keep all of them as they are offered right now? The point is they would lose opportunity and choice. Kids shouldn’t lose out in this process.

Because they become spread too thin. Not enough specialized yeah fees to serve all these programs, less of a focus on having strong core courses that need to be offered at all schools.