Harvard Report on Israel/Palestine/Jew/Arab conflict on campus

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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.


Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.


The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.


I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.


Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.
Anonymous
Those tunnels under Gaza were funded by the UN $ - funds intended for humanitarian aid - corrupt Palestinian officials use the $ for tunnels, weapons and the billionaire hamas leadership living large in Qatar. Yes, people knew about the tunnels, but the int'l community didnt care and kept funding them. Funds meant for womens health, food, etc are controlled and withheld by Hamas. Hamas intentionally operates out of residential, medical and educational facilities. They use their people as human shields. They couldn't care less about the health and welfare of their people. Israel left Gaza in 2005. (And eqypt ruled gaza for 20 years before that) Gaza elected Hamas which operates like a mafia and oppresses their own people. Hamas led the Oct 7 attack and murder of over 1200 Israeli civilians and the hostages still held there. Hamas knew Israel would respond and Hamas is responsible for any lives lost due to the war they started. They don't want ceasefires and, they don't want peace, and they certainly dont care about womens rights or building a stable economy. They just want to destroy Israel. There is no other nation that would sit back and accept that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Those tunnels under Gaza were funded by the UN $ - funds intended for humanitarian aid - corrupt Palestinian officials use the $ for tunnels, weapons and the billionaire hamas leadership living large in Qatar. Yes, people knew about the tunnels, but the int'l community didnt care and kept funding them. Funds meant for womens health, food, etc are controlled and withheld by Hamas. Hamas intentionally operates out of residential, medical and educational facilities. They use their people as human shields. They couldn't care less about the health and welfare of their people. Israel left Gaza in 2005. (And eqypt ruled gaza for 20 years before that) Gaza elected Hamas which operates like a mafia and oppresses their own people. Hamas led the Oct 7 attack and murder of over 1200 Israeli civilians and the hostages still held there. Hamas knew Israel would respond and Hamas is responsible for any lives lost due to the war they started. They don't want ceasefires and, they don't want peace, and they certainly dont care about womens rights or building a stable economy. They just want to destroy Israel. There is no other nation that would sit back and accept that.


OMG! How do we de-program you. Just lies coming out of your mouth.

Have you no decency? Children are dying because of your stupidity. Do you not read Haaretz?
Anonymous
Do you really think that Palestinians are somehow different from the average human and do not want to live a fulfilled life?

Completely insane, racist rhetoric here. Please don’t send your children to the same college as my children are going to go to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Those tunnels under Gaza were funded by the UN $ - funds intended for humanitarian aid - corrupt Palestinian officials use the $ for tunnels, weapons and the billionaire hamas leadership living large in Qatar. Yes, people knew about the tunnels, but the int'l community didnt care and kept funding them. Funds meant for womens health, food, etc are controlled and withheld by Hamas. Hamas intentionally operates out of residential, medical and educational facilities. They use their people as human shields. They couldn't care less about the health and welfare of their people. Israel left Gaza in 2005. (And eqypt ruled gaza for 20 years before that) Gaza elected Hamas which operates like a mafia and oppresses their own people. Hamas led the Oct 7 attack and murder of over 1200 Israeli civilians and the hostages still held there. Hamas knew Israel would respond and Hamas is responsible for any lives lost due to the war they started. They don't want ceasefires and, they don't want peace, and they certainly dont care about womens rights or building a stable economy. They just want to destroy Israel. There is no other nation that would sit back and accept that.

You have been utterly brainwashed to the point where you cannot think rationally.
Israel is not justified in slaughtering 50,000 Gazans in response to the 1200 murdered by Hamas. It is so horrifically disproportionate to the crime that it violates just war norms.
Israel is morally bankrupt in starving to death thousands of children and forcibly removing a population from its land. What do you call the intentional starvation and removal of a people?
Israel has lost its moral compass, and it is a schande. A disgrace. May God forgive you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you really think that Palestinians are somehow different from the average human and do not want to live a fulfilled life?

Completely insane, racist rhetoric here. Please don’t send your children to the same college as my children are going to go to.


(Almost) everyone wants Palestinians to live a “fulfilled life”.

Unfortunately, that’s not in any way what this conflict or the campus protests are about.
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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.


Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.


The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.


I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.


Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.


Neither side has moral high ground here. The problem is that advocates for both sides think they do.

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Anonymous wrote:And here’s the issue. What’s different about this war than those? I’ll wait for your answer.


The difference here is that there is an ask - divestment. That separates this from other conflicts, in terms of students being able to ask for something concrete from the university (regardless of its merits).
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do you really think that Palestinians are somehow different from the average human and do not want to live a fulfilled life?

Completely insane, racist rhetoric here. Please don’t send your children to the same college as my children are going to go to.


(Almost) everyone wants Palestinians to live a “fulfilled life”.

Unfortunately, that’s not in any way what this conflict or the campus protests are about.


Because we have a RIGHT to say, do not massacre people with American taxpayer money and American university endowments. Period.

You want to fund Israel and support its insanity go right ahead! But stop bribing our politicians to spend our American taxpayer money and endowment funds on your stupid wars and stop trampling on our children’s freedom of speech.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.


Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.


The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.


I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.


Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.


Neither side has moral high ground here. The problem is that advocates for both sides think they do.




This is an asymmetrical conflict. Everybody knows that and trying to say otherwise to obfuscate Israel’s atrocities reveals your deep hatred for non-Israelis.

Why are you even in the college forum as you clearly have no analytical thinking skills.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you really think that Palestinians are somehow different from the average human and do not want to live a fulfilled life?

Completely insane, racist rhetoric here. Please don’t send your children to the same college as my children are going to go to.


(Almost) everyone wants Palestinians to live a “fulfilled life”.

Unfortunately, that’s not in any way what this conflict or the campus protests are about.


Because we have a RIGHT to say, do not massacre people with American taxpayer money and American university endowments. Period.

You want to fund Israel and support its insanity go right ahead! But stop bribing our politicians to spend our American taxpayer money and endowment funds on your stupid wars and stop trampling on our children’s freedom of speech.


Always glad when the extremist nutters self-identify. Thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.


Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.


The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.


I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.


Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.


Neither side has moral high ground here. The problem is that advocates for both sides think they do.




This is an asymmetrical conflict. Everybody knows that and trying to say otherwise to obfuscate Israel’s atrocities reveals your deep hatred for non-Israelis.

Why are you even in the college forum as you clearly have no analytical thinking skills.


Yup, complete nutter. Thx!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/30/task-force-reports/

Well, these reports appear to make it pretty clear that Palestinians / Arabs / Muslims were the only ones actually facing physical attacks and threats, doxxing, etc.


Correct. And it’s been happening our whole lives - not just in the last few years.

Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.


Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.


The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.


I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.


Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.


Neither side has moral high ground here. The problem is that advocates for both sides think they do.




This is an asymmetrical conflict. Everybody knows that and trying to say otherwise to obfuscate Israel’s atrocities reveals your deep hatred for non-Israelis.

Why are you even in the college forum as you clearly have no analytical thinking skills.


Yup, complete nutter. Thx!


Thank you for revealing your deep hatred for others.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think things would be a lot clearer on college campuses if the protest were on ALL of the current wars and not so focused on the one between Israel and Gaza.

If the message was clear that all lives mattered around the world and that it doesn't matter what country you live in and under what rule, then there would be no argument.

However, when the protesters focus in on one area only and ignore the rest, it does make you wonder where the funding is coming from.


Yeah, that’s great and all. Two kinda relevant issues, though.

1. This isn’t a war, it’s an actual annihilation (which we ironically always hear is the existential threat facing those doing the annihilating in this case).

2. We are directly, irrefutably enabling and funding this annihilation.

If you can point to another contemporaneous annihilation that we are directly enabling and funding, I’ll be happy to look into it.

Until then, no - we don’t need to emphasize that all lives matter. Only one type of life has been obliterated using U.S. funding and weaponry this century in an absolute one-sided annihilation: and that one type pf life is the one that Israel selects as their victim du jour.


The US led war on terror killed nearly 200,000 afghanis. No one on campuses gave a shit you sniveling, sickening a-hole.


I don’t think there was anything perfect about the Afghanistan war. But I would be really troubled and probably marching in the streets if I had heard we were repeatedly bombing hospitals, schools, medical convoys and putting a cordon around civilian areas resulting in widespread famine and lack of medication for things like childbirth. I never heard we did anything like that.

My kids are part Jewish, most of my friends are Jewish……I don’t think ima antiSemetic. But I am very very troubled by how Israel is gojng about this war, and really disappointed that the Israeli people don’t seem as troubled.

I also was pretty shocked to learn that apparently everyone knew hamas was building all those tunnels under civilian areas for decades … it seems like everyone just watched a powder keg grow with people globbkmg gasoline on it, for years.


Exactly.

This didn't start on 10/7, either. The ongoing occupation and settlement project (i.e., land theft), including settler violence ensures that Israel has no moral high ground in this situation.


Neither side has moral high ground here. The problem is that advocates for both sides think they do.




This is an asymmetrical conflict. Everybody knows that and trying to say otherwise to obfuscate Israel’s atrocities reveals your deep hatred for non-Israelis.

Why are you even in the college forum as you clearly have no analytical thinking skills.


Yup, complete nutter. Thx!


Thank you for revealing your deep hatred for others.


Others, no.

People like you? Perhaps.
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