usage data for arizona ave bike lane

[Anonymous]

I am convinced the Greater Greater Washington types have someone in staff to do rapid response here and probably Reddit etc. No mom would 1/care that much and 2/post ad infinitum about this at the expense of missing out on the gossip in the other threads. The poster with the “data says otherwise” crap appears to be a first class phony. Go back to your Lycra and let us be.

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Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

The entitlement comes in many forms, like when they pound on your car because they're unhappy about something you did, and they just assume that the drivers won't respond in a way that will put them in a hospital and/or grave. As I a driver, I would never confront another driver because you just don't know...

I infer that, because you are posting about this specific act, that this happen to you. I will further infer that this act was triggered by you driving in a manner that endangered the welfare of the cyclist. I will yet further infer from the rest of your message that your dangerous driving is predicated on notions of innate superiority and a callous disregard for the lives of other road users. I encourage you to either stop driving or seek psychological help for your personality disorder before you commit something more serious than making a stupid post on an anonymous forum.

You are proving the point. You have to be pretty entitled to think you have the right to scream at a stranger and pound on their car because they did something that you don't approve of. You also have to be pretty stupid. There are lots of people in this world who are in prison and lots of people who are dead because someone felt disrespected.

I guess you’ve never been in a situation where someone - whether inadvertently or deliberately - almost killed you. Good for you.

No, because we’re not militant idiots trying to make others conform to our special interest. Ride a bike if you want. If you don’t want to be with cars, take the paths and trails or take advantage of the abundant public transportation options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am convinced the Greater Greater Washington types have someone in staff to do rapid response here and probably Reddit etc. No mom would 1/care that much and 2/post ad infinitum about this at the expense of missing out on the gossip in the other threads. The poster with the “data says otherwise” crap appears to be a first class phony. Go back to your Lycra and let us be.

Yes. How dare facts and reason invade the safe space you constructed with hate-filled nonsense!

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Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

The entitlement comes in many forms, like when they pound on your car because they're unhappy about something you did, and they just assume that the drivers won't respond in a way that will put them in a hospital and/or grave. As I a driver, I would never confront another driver because you just don't know...

I infer that, because you are posting about this specific act, that this happen to you. I will further infer that this act was triggered by you driving in a manner that endangered the welfare of the cyclist. I will yet further infer from the rest of your message that your dangerous driving is predicated on notions of innate superiority and a callous disregard for the lives of other road users. I encourage you to either stop driving or seek psychological help for your personality disorder before you commit something more serious than making a stupid post on an anonymous forum.

You are proving the point. You have to be pretty entitled to think you have the right to scream at a stranger and pound on their car because they did something that you don't approve of. You also have to be pretty stupid. There are lots of people in this world who are in prison and lots of people who are dead because someone felt disrespected.

I guess you’ve never been in a situation where someone - whether inadvertently or deliberately - almost killed you. Good for you.

No, because we’re not militant idiots trying to make others conform to our special interest. Ride a bike if you want. If you don’t want to be with cars, take the paths and trails or take advantage of the abundant public transportation options.

Cyclists have a legal right to use the roadways in DC. You have a legal obligation to stay at least three feet away from them. If you can’t abide by that, you deserve whatever you get.

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Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

Can we get the sources for those "billions of dollars" and "150 miles" claims, again?

Our government! AKA the horse's mouth.

Are you serious? Someone asks for a source and your response is “our government”. That’s not how this works. And I have a faint recollection of going down this road before. After much prodding, you did refer inquisitive readers to a document or two. And those documents revealed your claims to be totally unsubstantiated.

DP: There is over $200 million for bike lanes, trails, bridges and overpasses in the current Capital Improvements Plan alone.

https://cfo.dc.gov/page/annual-operating-budget-and-capital-plan

Stop lying.

Why do you think it's a lie? Because the number is so large and spending that much would be insane?

Read it yourself. It's not hidden.

Because they are falsely claiming that multiuse parks and overpasses are for bikes only. Like the 11th St Bridge park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am convinced the Greater Greater Washington types have someone in staff to do rapid response here and probably Reddit etc. No mom would 1/care that much and 2/post ad infinitum about this at the expense of missing out on the gossip in the other threads. The poster with the “data says otherwise” crap appears to be a first class phony. Go back to your Lycra and let us be.

I guess you need to get out of your SUV and actually see all the people of all ages/races/classes who enjoy biking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

The entitlement comes in many forms, like when they pound on your car because they're unhappy about something you did, and they just assume that the drivers won't respond in a way that will put them in a hospital and/or grave. As I a driver, I would never confront another driver because you just don't know...

I infer that, because you are posting about this specific act, that this happen to you. I will further infer that this act was triggered by you driving in a manner that endangered the welfare of the cyclist. I will yet further infer from the rest of your message that your dangerous driving is predicated on notions of innate superiority and a callous disregard for the lives of other road users. I encourage you to either stop driving or seek psychological help for your personality disorder before you commit something more serious than making a stupid post on an anonymous forum.

You are proving the point. You have to be pretty entitled to think you have the right to scream at a stranger and pound on their car because they did something that you don't approve of. You also have to be pretty stupid. There are lots of people in this world who are in prison and lots of people who are dead because someone felt disrespected.

There is a much much greater number of people whose lives have been destroyed by drivers who failed to exercise due care while driving or tried to make some sick point because they didn’t like what someone else was doing on the road. Someone banging on your trunk may be annoying, but the odds are that you did something much worse to cause them to do this.

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Anonymous wrote:We just drove it yesterday and were commenting on taking up the road with a two way bike lane with no bikes. The white barrier poles make the turn from Loughboro difficult with cars coming the other way.

We’re having one of the coldest Februarys in years. It’s hardly surprising that many people who would bike are finding other ways to get around at the moment.

The number of bicyclists in DC has been shrinking for years. The League of American Bicyclists tracks biking in various cities. It says the number of Washingtonians riding bikes is down 28 percent since 2017.

The statistical illiterate is back at it again.

In reality, measures of bike usage in DC show rapid growth.

Maybe if you count the tourists on the bike tours. But the bike lanes around the city are empty.

I regularly see bike lanes in DC that have more bikes than the adjacent roads have cars. Maybe we should replace those roads completely with bike lanes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

The entitlement comes in many forms, like when they pound on your car because they're unhappy about something you did, and they just assume that the drivers won't respond in a way that will put them in a hospital and/or grave. As I a driver, I would never confront another driver because you just don't know...

I infer that, because you are posting about this specific act, that this happen to you. I will further infer that this act was triggered by you driving in a manner that endangered the welfare of the cyclist. I will yet further infer from the rest of your message that your dangerous driving is predicated on notions of innate superiority and a callous disregard for the lives of other road users. I encourage you to either stop driving or seek psychological help for your personality disorder before you commit something more serious than making a stupid post on an anonymous forum.

You are proving the point. You have to be pretty entitled to think you have the right to scream at a stranger and pound on their car because they did something that you don't approve of. You also have to be pretty stupid. There are lots of people in this world who are in prison and lots of people who are dead because someone felt disrespected.

I guess you’ve never been in a situation where someone - whether inadvertently or deliberately - almost killed you. Good for you.

If you ride a bike in DC, you should *expect* to be hit by a car sooner or later because statistics. Do you think you can live in a big city and never be mugged too?

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Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

Can we get the sources for those "billions of dollars" and "150 miles" claims, again?

Our government! AKA the horse's mouth.

Are you serious? Someone asks for a source and your response is “our government”. That’s not how this works. And I have a faint recollection of going down this road before. After much prodding, you did refer inquisitive readers to a document or two. And those documents revealed your claims to be totally unsubstantiated.

DP: There is over $200 million for bike lanes, trails, bridges and overpasses in the current Capital Improvements Plan alone.

https://cfo.dc.gov/page/annual-operating-budget-and-capital-plan

No. We went over this in the thread about the CR and the DC budget. The real figure is $32 million or something.

No we didn't and no it isn't. Why are you lying about something so straight forward and easily verifiable? There is over $200 million for bicycle lanes, trails, bridges, and overpasses. If we include bike lanes masquerading as traffic safety measures it goes up to $250 million.

Read the document yourself. The Long Bridge is a bike bridge. The MBT is a bike trail. The overpass at Anacostia Metro is a bike overpass. Etc etc

If I were being polite, I would call you intellectually dishonest.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

The entitlement comes in many forms, like when they pound on your car because they're unhappy about something you did, and they just assume that the drivers won't respond in a way that will put them in a hospital and/or grave. As I a driver, I would never confront another driver because you just don't know...

I infer that, because you are posting about this specific act, that this happen to you. I will further infer that this act was triggered by you driving in a manner that endangered the welfare of the cyclist. I will yet further infer from the rest of your message that your dangerous driving is predicated on notions of innate superiority and a callous disregard for the lives of other road users. I encourage you to either stop driving or seek psychological help for your personality disorder before you commit something more serious than making a stupid post on an anonymous forum.

You are proving the point. You have to be pretty entitled to think you have the right to scream at a stranger and pound on their car because they did something that you don't approve of. You also have to be pretty stupid. There are lots of people in this world who are in prison and lots of people who are dead because someone felt disrespected.

I guess you’ve never been in a situation where someone - whether inadvertently or deliberately - almost killed you. Good for you.

No, because we’re not militant idiots trying to make others conform to our special interest. Ride a bike if you want. If you don’t want to be with cars, take the paths and trails or take advantage of the abundant public transportation options.

Cyclists have a legal right to use the roadways in DC. You have a legal obligation to stay at least three feet away from them. If you can’t abide by that, you deserve whatever you get.

A cyclist friend confronted a driver. The driver beat him so badly that he has no memory of what happened. He woke up in a hospital and had no idea why he was there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

Can we get the sources for those "billions of dollars" and "150 miles" claims, again?

Our government! AKA the horse's mouth.

Are you serious? Someone asks for a source and your response is “our government”. That’s not how this works. And I have a faint recollection of going down this road before. After much prodding, you did refer inquisitive readers to a document or two. And those documents revealed your claims to be totally unsubstantiated.

DP: There is over $200 million for bike lanes, trails, bridges and overpasses in the current Capital Improvements Plan alone.

https://cfo.dc.gov/page/annual-operating-budget-and-capital-plan

No. We went over this in the thread about the CR and the DC budget. The real figure is $32 million or something.

No we didn't and no it isn't. Why are you lying about something so straight forward and easily verifiable? There is over $200 million for bicycle lanes, trails, bridges, and overpasses. If we include bike lanes masquerading as traffic safety measures it goes up to $250 million.

Read the document yourself. The Long Bridge is a bike bridge. The MBT is a bike trail. The overpass at Anacostia Metro is a bike overpass. Etc etc

If I were being polite, I would call you intellectually dishonest.

You can just read the city's budget. The city spends at least a quarter billion dollars on bike stuff every year for the past 15 years.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

Can we get the sources for those "billions of dollars" and "150 miles" claims, again?

Our government! AKA the horse's mouth.

Are you serious? Someone asks for a source and your response is “our government”. That’s not how this works. And I have a faint recollection of going down this road before. After much prodding, you did refer inquisitive readers to a document or two. And those documents revealed your claims to be totally unsubstantiated.

DP: There is over $200 million for bike lanes, trails, bridges and overpasses in the current Capital Improvements Plan alone.

https://cfo.dc.gov/page/annual-operating-budget-and-capital-plan

No. We went over this in the thread about the CR and the DC budget. The real figure is $32 million or something.

No we didn't and no it isn't. Why are you lying about something so straight forward and easily verifiable? There is over $200 million for bicycle lanes, trails, bridges, and overpasses. If we include bike lanes masquerading as traffic safety measures it goes up to $250 million.

Read the document yourself. The Long Bridge is a bike bridge. The MBT is a bike trail. The overpass at Anacostia Metro is a bike overpass. Etc etc

If I were being polite, I would call you intellectually dishonest.

You can just read the city's budget. The city spends at least a quarter billion dollars on bike stuff every year for the past 15 years.

Some people may call that intellectually dishonest. I call that utter horseshit propagated by a fool who is unhealthily obsessed with a particular mode of transportation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes a special kind of Cluster B to believe that because you personally cannot bike, that bike lanes constitute “treating bike commuters like gods.”

The city has spent billions of dollars over the years on a bike infrastructure that is used by a tiny (and shrinking) number of people. The cost per user is out of this universe. Cyclists are also the only group that is effectively exempt from all traffic laws. You can put an infant in the basket on the front of your bike, go tootling down the middle of Connecticut Avenue during rush hour as fast as you can pedal, and you will never be punished. But I get it. You have such a deep seated sense of entitlement that all you can see is that our 150 miles of bike lanes still aren't air conditioned.

The entitlement comes in many forms, like when they pound on your car because they're unhappy about something you did, and they just assume that the drivers won't respond in a way that will put them in a hospital and/or grave. As I a driver, I would never confront another driver because you just don't know...

I infer that, because you are posting about this specific act, that this happen to you. I will further infer that this act was triggered by you driving in a manner that endangered the welfare of the cyclist. I will yet further infer from the rest of your message that your dangerous driving is predicated on notions of innate superiority and a callous disregard for the lives of other road users. I encourage you to either stop driving or seek psychological help for your personality disorder before you commit something more serious than making a stupid post on an anonymous forum.

You are proving the point. You have to be pretty entitled to think you have the right to scream at a stranger and pound on their car because they did something that you don't approve of. You also have to be pretty stupid. There are lots of people in this world who are in prison and lots of people who are dead because someone felt disrespected.

I guess you’ve never been in a situation where someone - whether inadvertently or deliberately - almost killed you. Good for you.

No, because we’re not militant idiots trying to make others conform to our special interest. Ride a bike if you want. If you don’t want to be with cars, take the paths and trails or take advantage of the abundant public transportation options.

Cyclists have a legal right to use the roadways in DC. You have a legal obligation to stay at least three feet away from them. If you can’t abide by that, you deserve whatever you get.

A cyclist friend confronted a driver. The driver beat him so badly that he has no memory of what happened. He woke up in a hospital and had no idea why he was there.

It’s very hard to believe that you have friends.