Elementary parents, pay attention to start times

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Anonymous wrote:Middle school children ALSO shouldn't be in school from 9:30 - 4:30, OP. NO CHILDREN SHOUDL BE IN SCHOOL THAT LATE.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is anti-middle school.

Can't blame the OP, so am I. Middle school sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.

Ok ok, so only half of the elementary schools get screwed. In that case, carry on!

Well, that does impact less overall. Excellent point!

There are more than 140 elementary schools in FCPS!

I have been teaching for 25 years. I teach at an ES that currently starts at 9:20. Students in pre-K through 2nd are exhausted by 3. This change would put our school at the latest time. These kids would have this developmentally inappropriate schedule for 7-8 years! Kids getting home at dinner time and being at home or daycare in the AM when they are most ready to learn is not in the best interest of elementary—aged students.

Attention working parents who put your 7-8 year old kids in after school programs so you can pay for their clothes, home and food: according to above poster, you are awful and should quit so you are home by 3 for your kids or your are developmentally hurting them. Shame on all working parents that keep their kids out of the house until after 6. So selfish to try to make a living when should just be home with no job. Amazing any of those harmed kids have survived at all let alone get into college.

No one is learning in after care. We are talking about kids learning reading and math and unable to attend to instruction. I teach LA from 2-4:00. It is the most miserable part of the day. By 3:30, I have to stop and do a read aloud.

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Anonymous wrote:Option E reads as 9-3:45 or 9:50-4:35pm. Both are part of the ES solution. It’s not all ES gets a 9:50 start.

This would mean out ES would start even earlier!!!! People on here do realize not every ES starts at same time now. If go to board docs in MS thread, there is exhibit tells all start and end times. For some E will be earlier and for some later.

I wonder if they went with E they would make changes. My school is currently a late ES and the other options would have us being one of the earliest. We are in a heavily traffic area and have been fighting this for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Elementary teacher here. I taught many years in a very early start school and then in one with a later start date-later by an hour. The early start was so much better. At the late school, kids were toast by three. Little kids are often up very early, and many went to morning day care, so by the time they got to school, they’d been up for two or three hours already and were done with following directions. There’s not really a good way to manage this with all the factors.

The good news is… we are only talking about 30 minutes, not 2 hours! But, thanks for playing, Op!

+1 seriously, it’s a 30 min slide for all grade levels. Whereas C2 has middle school getting out over 2 hours later than currently. It’s obvious what choice they should do.

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Anonymous wrote:We were at a 9:20 start time ES and had no issues with the start or end time. My kids loved sleeping in until 8:30 or so.

+1 hope they keep this schedule. It's perfect for that age group.

They need more buses or to make parents drive AAP students to center schools in order to free up more buses.

As a home with two parents who work in person, this was brutal. We couldnt even split am and pm like we did for daycare years as neither job was cool with us rolling in around 10. This late start only works for parents who don’t work or work from home. It forces everyone else to spend more money on both before care and after care instead of just one.

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As a home with two parents who work in person, this was brutal. We couldnt even split am and pm like we did for daycare years as neither job was cool with us rolling in around 10. This late start only works for parents who don’t work or work from home. It forces everyone else to spend more money on both before care and after care instead of just one.

Add to that the waiting list for pre school day SACC.........

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Anonymous wrote:If FCPS eliminated bussing for AAP Centers and treated them the same way they treat other choice schools (like language immersion, or schools for the arts, etc.), they could start middle schools at 8:30am without changing elementary school start times.

OMG did you actually study that or are you just angry your kid didn’t get into AAP. If you have hard data, post it, if not why post this as fact?

Oh dear, my children DID get into AAP, but we kept them at our base school because we thought it would be stupid to send them to a different, farther away, school for the same curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:We were at a 9:20 start time ES and had no issues with the start or end time. My kids loved sleeping in until 8:30 or so.

But under this plan your school would start at 9:50 am and get out at 4:40. That’s a lot for little kids. They can’t concentrate that well in the late afternoon.

Actually kids can and do pay attention in afternoons. Many many kids going to Curie and RSM etc after school and doing fine learning at 5 and 6 so above isn’t a true statement for a lot of kids.

Your children that go to enrichment classes get a break between regular school and extra school, right? These kids in ES, will be in school nonstop until 4:30, then come home and have to go straight to extra math school at 5:00. That...doesn't sound ideal to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Local businesses will have to start providing before care because SAAC isn’t going to begin to cover the need for before care if elementary kids aren’t going to school until 9:50.

On the slip side, the businesses that provide aftercare probably won’t be as needed if those same kids are getting home at 5, 5:30.

Those taekwondo places will easily adjust their hours. No issue.

Will they offer before care? Because that is the problem. No TKD place offers before care now so it would be a HUGE staffing change for them.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have 3 kids spaced out by 2 years, then you are dealing with the middle school operational hours for 6 years. Things really need to improve for middle schoolers.

And even more years of elementary school. You should care about this. I don't want ES from 10-5. No thank you.

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All kids need a break between school and after school activities. It's already a very short break for late start ES schools. Getting them home at 5:00 and going straight to activities without a break is a nightmare at any age.

ANY AGE. No kids should get home at 5pm. NONE.

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Anonymous wrote:All kids need a break between school and after school activities. It's already a very short break for late start ES schools. Getting them home at 5:00 and going straight to activities without a break is a nightmare at any age.

ANY AGE. No kids should get home at 5pm. NONE.

But this is what the middle schoolers do! They go to school from 7-2pm and then go immediately to their clubs—no break, no dinner, no home, and then they either attend 1 or 2 clubs back to back before any break or food.

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Anonymous wrote:All kids need a break between school and after school activities. It's already a very short break for late start ES schools. Getting them home at 5:00 and going straight to activities without a break is a nightmare at any age.

ANY AGE. No kids should get home at 5pm. NONE.

But this is what the middle schoolers do! They go to school from 7-2pm and then go immediately to their clubs—no break, no dinner, no home, and then they either attend 1 or 2 clubs back to back before any break or food.

And that's a good thing? No breaks or time to be a kid? Man, kids are so overscheduled.

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Anonymous wrote:All kids need a break between school and after school activities. It's already a very short break for late start ES schools. Getting them home at 5:00 and going straight to activities without a break is a nightmare at any age.

ANY AGE. No kids should get home at 5pm. NONE.

But this is what the middle schoolers do! They go to school from 7-2pm and then go immediately to their clubs—no break, no dinner, no home, and then they either attend 1 or 2 clubs back to back before any break or food.

They have the option to come home immediately, PP. Clubs are optional and free.