"Boymoms"

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Anonymous wrote:These boymoms are largely responsible for most of the misogyny in the U.S. at present.

Yes! I have seen such a huge double standard amongst most people when it comes to raising their boys and girls. These parents expect the world from girls but keep giving their boys a free pass for everything. Basically shrugging their shoulders and saying “boys will be boys”. Can’t stand that phrase. Discipline your boys, make them work hard, teach them manners and how to focus and stop giving in to every demand of theirs.

Have you really, though? Or are you just confusing television/movies/the internet with real life (like most posters in this thread)?

Oh please. I listen to NPR while commuting. NPR is not, as you put it, “television/movies/internet.” Its journalism on the radio.

And NPR have had numerous pieces - even whole series - about how parents expect perfection from girls but these same parents all give boys a free-pass for everything; the parents just shrug their shoulders when boys misbehave and make lame excuses like “boys will be boys.”

Everything in America is so completely biased against girls!

I am all for believing this, but I really haven't seen this in real life. Can you link to the piece?

Also, how old are the kids we are talking about here? And what is meant by "perfection?"

thought I had it Among favorites; couldn’t locate the npr but this is just one of the works of journalism they reviewed

https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/06/03/the-new-book-boymom-reimagines-boyhood-in-an-age-of-impossible-masculinity

This is an article about a feminist author and mother of three boys writing a book that essentially says that feminism has sometimes gotten to the point that it can be anti-male or anti-boy.
It doesn’t say that parents expect perfection from girls and give boys a free pass on everything. It’s about someone who has a lot of conflicting thoughts and emotions.

It's about a woman who takes whiny conservatives seriously.

I have three boys, and while I have pushed back against passing instances of mothers at school refusing to call on boys during class projects (because "We need to make sure girls get enough attention"), I haven't seen anything in the dominant social structures that suggests my guys have a harder time because they're guys. Have they occasionally lost out on things and been told it's because they want a girl or woman to have that position? Yes. Does that weigh on me? Or them? Nope.

The kids are alright, and the boys are fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These boymoms are largely responsible for most of the misogyny in the U.S. at present.

Yes! I have seen such a huge double standard amongst most people when it comes to raising their boys and girls. These parents expect the world from girls but keep giving their boys a free pass for everything. Basically shrugging their shoulders and saying “boys will be boys”. Can’t stand that phrase. Discipline your boys, make them work hard, teach them manners and how to focus and stop giving in to every demand of theirs.

Have you really, though? Or are you just confusing television/movies/the internet with real life (like most posters in this thread)?

Oh please. I listen to NPR while commuting. NPR is not, as you put it, “television/movies/internet.” Its journalism on the radio.

And NPR have had numerous pieces - even whole series - about how parents expect perfection from girls but these same parents all give boys a free-pass for everything; the parents just shrug their shoulders when boys misbehave and make lame excuses like “boys will be boys.”

Everything in America is so completely biased against girls!

I am all for believing this, but I really haven't seen this in real life. Can you link to the piece?

Also, how old are the kids we are talking about here? And what is meant by "perfection?"

thought I had it Among favorites; couldn’t locate the npr but this is just one of the works of journalism they reviewed

https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/06/03/the-new-book-boymom-reimagines-boyhood-in-an-age-of-impossible-masculinity

This is an article about a feminist author and mother of three boys writing a book that essentially says that feminism has sometimes gotten to the point that it can be anti-male or anti-boy.
It doesn’t say that parents expect perfection from girls and give boys a free pass on everything. It’s about someone who has a lot of conflicting thoughts and emotions.

It's about a woman who takes whiny conservatives seriously.

I have three boys, and while I have pushed back against passing instances of mothers at school refusing to call on boys during class projects (because "We need to make sure girls get enough attention"), I haven't seen anything in the dominant social structures that suggests my guys have a harder time because they're guys. Have they occasionally lost out on things and been told it's because they want a girl or woman to have that position? Yes. Does that weigh on me? Or them? Nope.

The kids are alright, and the boys are fine.

Okay. But the person who posted this article said it was about how mothers expect perfection from their daughters but give their sons a free pass.
I don’t see the author of this article giving her sons a free pass on everything or adopting a “boys will be boys” attitude, and there is nothing about mothers of daughters at all.

[Anonymous]

Where most of these awful boymoms fail is not raising their sons to be feminists.

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Anonymous wrote:Where most of these awful boymoms fail is not raising their sons to be feminists.

Do better, moms! Start here:

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/985808496

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where most of these awful boymoms fail is not raising their sons to be feminists.

Raise them to be a feminist like you? Hard pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't envision a mom with only boys when I hear thst term

Instead it's those ladies who rush to their son after an achievement (usually athletic) and throw themselves into their arms. It's cringe in a pseudo romantic way.

Very emeshed

SNL had a skit for Valentine’s Day where the mother and son were “very emeshed” while the father looked on. It was over the top to be funny but there’s a thing with a lot of sons and mothers.

I have both but I am very close to my son and my husband would never admit it but it bothers him that he can’t get the same thing. We are both close to our daughters. My son and husband love watching pro sports especially football but he doesn’t play, he plays music and is into the arts so that makes it easy for us to have more in common.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually it is used by moms with the super energetic rough and tumble type boys who get dirty a lot and play sports a lot. They assume everyone is like them.

We are not like them. My son is socially anxious, quiet, timid, and non-athletic. So are lots of boys. To me, "boymom" is the mom equivalent of toxic masculinity.

So, super energetic rough and tumble boys who like sports are engaging in toxic masculinity?

I was the PP, and was saying that it's a form of passive-aggressive mom-shaming that negatively affects those of us with quiet boys. It's toxic momulinity.