Why do you engage with MAGA on DCUM?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Propaganda. People sitting out while huffing for perfection delivered a Trump win.

Always, always, always vote. In every election. Even the smallest local election. Vote for people who are service-minded. People who are honest about the need for compromise in governing. Vote for mature people who take their responsibilities seriously, people who want to improve, not destroy.

Take responsibility for the media you consume. Demand the truth and seek it out. Stop watching media that sells you outrage and start reading real, investigative journalism from sources that have a track record of being factual and ethical. Learn where to go to check original sources.

Get involved. Write to your representatives even if you think they will ignore you. Run for any local office if you can.

Teach young people to value their vote and voice. Apathy is a tool of our enemies.

Definitely the case- for example the Michigan muslims who sat it out. And the progressives who have let perfect be the enemy of good. They delusionally still deny it but they are definitely to blame. When faced with two shitty candidates in a close election you have to vote for the less-evil otherwise you hand the more-evil a win.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

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Anonymous wrote:We make your food at restaurants.

We teach your kids at school.

We coach your kids in club, high school and college sports.

We come when you call 911 for a crime, fire or medical emergency.

We’re your carpenter, electrician and plumber.

We deliver your mail and see what letters and magazines you get.

We’re your local politicians.

We’re your neighbors.

We’re your relatives.

We’re your sons.

We voted for change.

Trump didn't even get a majority of Americans to vote for him.

He got the majority of votes both popular and electoral college. Why do liberals keep acting like this wasn’t a wipeout election? You lost everything!

under 50% is not a majority of the popular vote. Stop the gaslighting.

Majority of the votes. Learn to read.

the word "plurality" is your friend. He did NOT get the "majority" of votes.

Please go look up the meaning of the word majority. TIA

Trump winning 29% of eligible voters is not even remotely a majority other than a majority of eligible voters who cast a ballot. Those who cast ballots do not speak for the 71% who didn't.

You win the award for dumbest voting analysis on the internet today.

No, my friend - dumb is assuming Trump has a strong and clear mandate from the American people, and assuming the GOP is on a winning path. Republicans barely have control of Congress and are likely to get destroyed and lose badly in the mid-terms between Trump reneging on everything he promised America (like cheaper groceries) and enacting even a fraction of his horrible agenda. To make that assumption would be MONUMENTALLY dumb.

I guess we will find out. Sort of like we found out the media was lying and making shit up when the truth was that Kamala has zero chance of winning this last election.

The media lying and making shit up is 100% of what FOX News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Wire, Townhall, OANN, Daily Caller etc do...

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Anonymous wrote:We make your food at restaurants.

We teach your kids at school.

We coach your kids in club, high school and college sports.

We come when you call 911 for a crime, fire or medical emergency.

We’re your carpenter, electrician and plumber.

We deliver your mail and see what letters and magazines you get.

We’re your local politicians.

We’re your neighbors.

We’re your relatives.

We’re your sons.

We voted for change.

Trump didn't even get a majority of Americans to vote for him.

He got the majority of votes both popular and electoral college. Why do liberals keep acting like this wasn’t a wipeout election? You lost everything!

under 50% is not a majority of the popular vote. Stop the gaslighting.

Majority of the votes. Learn to read.

the word "plurality" is your friend. He did NOT get the "majority" of votes.

Please go look up the meaning of the word majority. TIA

Trump winning 29% of eligible voters is not even remotely a majority other than a majority of eligible voters who cast a ballot. Those who cast ballots do not speak for the 71% who didn't.

You win the award for dumbest voting analysis on the internet today.

No, my friend - dumb is assuming Trump has a strong and clear mandate from the American people, and assuming the GOP is on a winning path. Republicans barely have control of Congress and are likely to get destroyed and lose badly in the mid-terms between Trump reneging on everything he promised America (like cheaper groceries) and enacting even a fraction of his horrible agenda. To make that assumption would be MONUMENTALLY dumb.

I guess we will find out. Sort of like we found out the media was lying and making shit up when the truth was that Kamala has zero chance of winning this last election.

The media lying and making shit up is 100% of what FOX News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Wire, Townhall, OANN, Daily Caller etc do...

Lol now do the mainstream media. How is CNN’s defamation fee looking?

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Anonymous wrote:We make your food at restaurants.

We teach your kids at school.

We coach your kids in club, high school and college sports.

We come when you call 911 for a crime, fire or medical emergency.

We’re your carpenter, electrician and plumber.

We deliver your mail and see what letters and magazines you get.

We’re your local politicians.

We’re your neighbors.

We’re your relatives.

We’re your sons.

We voted for change.

Trump didn't even get a majority of Americans to vote for him.

He got the majority of votes both popular and electoral college. Why do liberals keep acting like this wasn’t a wipeout election? You lost everything!

under 50% is not a majority of the popular vote. Stop the gaslighting.

Majority of the votes. Learn to read.

the word "plurality" is your friend. He did NOT get the "majority" of votes.

Please go look up the meaning of the word majority. TIA

Trump winning 29% of eligible voters is not even remotely a majority other than a majority of eligible voters who cast a ballot. Those who cast ballots do not speak for the 71% who didn't.

You win the award for dumbest voting analysis on the internet today.

No, my friend - dumb is assuming Trump has a strong and clear mandate from the American people, and assuming the GOP is on a winning path. Republicans barely have control of Congress and are likely to get destroyed and lose badly in the mid-terms between Trump reneging on everything he promised America (like cheaper groceries) and enacting even a fraction of his horrible agenda. To make that assumption would be MONUMENTALLY dumb.

I guess we will find out. Sort of like we found out the media was lying and making shit up when the truth was that Kamala has zero chance of winning this last election.

The media lying and making shit up is 100% of what FOX News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Wire, Townhall, OANN, Daily Caller etc do...

Your genius is unparalleled. They all make shit up. You just happen to like the made up shit from CNN and MSNBC because it supports your world view.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

Yup! 155 millions fruitcakes voted for unfit geezers in 2020 and then another 75 million fruitcakes did the same in 2024. At least we're trending in the right direction ahead of 2028.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

You seem duped if you don’t understand he won the election. Are you an election denier? Because in the world of reality, the winner is the person with the most votes and that’s exactly who
Trump is.

Keep crying.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

You seem duped if you don’t understand he won the election. Are you an election denier? Because in the world of reality, the winner is the person with the most votes and that’s exactly who
Trump is.

Keep crying.

Oh, dear. None of us “won”. Until you realize that governing is not WWF, this is going to be a painful life lesson for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

You seem duped if you don’t understand he won the election. Are you an election denier? Because in the world of reality, the winner is the person with the most votes and that’s exactly who
Trump is.

Keep crying.

Oh, dear. None of us “won”. Until you realize that governing is not WWF, this is going to be a painful life lesson for you.

Oh we won alright. The nightmare of the last four years is over. Good riddance to the worst president we have ever had (Carter is so grateful to Biden!).

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

You seem duped if you don’t understand he won the election. Are you an election denier? Because in the world of reality, the winner is the person with the most votes and that’s exactly who
Trump is.

Keep crying.

Oh, dear. None of us “won”. Until you realize that governing is not WWF, this is going to be a painful life lesson for you.

Oh we won alright. The nightmare of the last four years is over. Good riddance to the worst president we have ever had (Carter is so grateful to Biden!).

I’m embarrassed for you. One day you’ll realize you’ve been lied to and used.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

You seem duped if you don’t understand he won the election. Are you an election denier? Because in the world of reality, the winner is the person with the most votes and that’s exactly who
Trump is.

Keep crying.

Most of us are smart enough to realize the unfit geezer Trump only won because the unfit geezer current president bumbled and fumbled an election gift to Trump. When one unfit geezer "wins" solely because of the misdeeds of another unfit geezer, no one actually "wins".

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Anonymous wrote:We make your food at restaurants.

We teach your kids at school.

We coach your kids in club, high school and college sports.

We come when you call 911 for a crime, fire or medical emergency.

We’re your carpenter, electrician and plumber.

We deliver your mail and see what letters and magazines you get.

We’re your local politicians.

We’re your neighbors.

We’re your relatives.

We’re your sons.

We voted for change.

Trump didn't even get a majority of Americans to vote for him.

He got the majority of votes both popular and electoral college. Why do liberals keep acting like this wasn’t a wipeout election? You lost everything!

under 50% is not a majority of the popular vote. Stop the gaslighting.

Majority of the votes. Learn to read.

the word "plurality" is your friend. He did NOT get the "majority" of votes.

Please go look up the meaning of the word majority. TIA

Trump winning 29% of eligible voters is not even remotely a majority other than a majority of eligible voters who cast a ballot. Those who cast ballots do not speak for the 71% who didn't.

You win the award for dumbest voting analysis on the internet today.

No, my friend - dumb is assuming Trump has a strong and clear mandate from the American people, and assuming the GOP is on a winning path. Republicans barely have control of Congress and are likely to get destroyed and lose badly in the mid-terms between Trump reneging on everything he promised America (like cheaper groceries) and enacting even a fraction of his horrible agenda. To make that assumption would be MONUMENTALLY dumb.

I guess we will find out. Sort of like we found out the media was lying and making shit up when the truth was that Kamala has zero chance of winning this last election.

The media lying and making shit up is 100% of what FOX News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Wire, Townhall, OANN, Daily Caller etc do...

Lol now do the mainstream media. How is CNN’s defamation fee looking?

There has never been a "leftist" media. Rush Limbaugh created the concept and now, 30 years later, we see the truth for what it is. The media are corporate owned and as such, look out for their corporate interests. The billionairs who own/control the media are all bending the knee. We have no legitimate 4th estate any longer.

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Anonymous wrote:We make your food at restaurants.

We teach your kids at school.

We coach your kids in club, high school and college sports.

We come when you call 911 for a crime, fire or medical emergency.

We’re your carpenter, electrician and plumber.

We deliver your mail and see what letters and magazines you get.

We’re your local politicians.

We’re your neighbors.

We’re your relatives.

We’re your sons.

We voted for change.

Trump didn't even get a majority of Americans to vote for him.

He got the majority of votes both popular and electoral college. Why do liberals keep acting like this wasn’t a wipeout election? You lost everything!

under 50% is not a majority of the popular vote. Stop the gaslighting.

Majority of the votes. Learn to read.

the word "plurality" is your friend. He did NOT get the "majority" of votes.

Please go look up the meaning of the word majority. TIA

Trump winning 29% of eligible voters is not even remotely a majority other than a majority of eligible voters who cast a ballot. Those who cast ballots do not speak for the 71% who didn't.

You win the award for dumbest voting analysis on the internet today.

No, my friend - dumb is assuming Trump has a strong and clear mandate from the American people, and assuming the GOP is on a winning path. Republicans barely have control of Congress and are likely to get destroyed and lose badly in the mid-terms between Trump reneging on everything he promised America (like cheaper groceries) and enacting even a fraction of his horrible agenda. To make that assumption would be MONUMENTALLY dumb.

I guess we will find out. Sort of like we found out the media was lying and making shit up when the truth was that Kamala has zero chance of winning this last election.

The media lying and making shit up is 100% of what FOX News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Wire, Townhall, OANN, Daily Caller etc do...

Lol now do the mainstream media. How is CNN’s defamation fee looking?

Pretty tiny compared to what RWNJ media paid out for their lies about Dominion etc. Or did your fake RWNJ news not tell you that?

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Anonymous wrote:We make your food at restaurants.

We teach your kids at school.

We coach your kids in club, high school and college sports.

We come when you call 911 for a crime, fire or medical emergency.

We’re your carpenter, electrician and plumber.

We deliver your mail and see what letters and magazines you get.

We’re your local politicians.

We’re your neighbors.

We’re your relatives.

We’re your sons.

We voted for change.

Trump didn't even get a majority of Americans to vote for him.

He got the majority of votes both popular and electoral college. Why do liberals keep acting like this wasn’t a wipeout election? You lost everything!

under 50% is not a majority of the popular vote. Stop the gaslighting.

Majority of the votes. Learn to read.

the word "plurality" is your friend. He did NOT get the "majority" of votes.

Please go look up the meaning of the word majority. TIA

Trump winning 29% of eligible voters is not even remotely a majority other than a majority of eligible voters who cast a ballot. Those who cast ballots do not speak for the 71% who didn't.

You win the award for dumbest voting analysis on the internet today.

No, my friend - dumb is assuming Trump has a strong and clear mandate from the American people, and assuming the GOP is on a winning path. Republicans barely have control of Congress and are likely to get destroyed and lose badly in the mid-terms between Trump reneging on everything he promised America (like cheaper groceries) and enacting even a fraction of his horrible agenda. To make that assumption would be MONUMENTALLY dumb.

I guess we will find out. Sort of like we found out the media was lying and making shit up when the truth was that Kamala has zero chance of winning this last election.

The media lying and making shit up is 100% of what FOX News, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Wire, Townhall, OANN, Daily Caller etc do...

Lol now do the mainstream media. How is CNN’s defamation fee looking?

There has never been a "leftist" media. Rush Limbaugh created the concept and now, 30 years later, we see the truth for what it is. The media are corporate owned and as such, look out for their corporate interests. The billionairs who own/control the media are all bending the knee. We have no legitimate 4th estate any longer.

The media started going downhill when Reagan got rid of the fairness doctrine. That's when Limbaugh got his big start.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a boomer or uneducated. I have two degrees. I am actually more against the Democratic Party than MAGA. Many people of varying backgrounds all over this country are horrified by the Democratic agenda of socialism, open borders, DEI, and transgender ideology. Democrats lost the most recent election due to their own poor policies and extremism. The sad thing is that they live inside their liberal bubble and are incapable of any self-reflection. They would rather attack voters for not choosing them than change their unpopular agenda.

What do you consider socialism?

Build Back Better was socialism. Thankfully, due to Joe Manchin, it did not pass, but Democrats were still able to pass another bill full of government subsidies and reckless spending.

Socialism like Medicare, Social Security, the military, federal roads, etc? You're against all that?

Very few people, even Republicans, believe we don't need taxes to pay for the common good (everything you mentioned). However, the difference between conservatives and progressives is how much more we spend on give-aways that aren't for the common good like welfare which is wealth redistribution which is socialist. As a liberal Democrat, I'm not against welfare. But I am against abuses of the system which seems quite broken.

New poster to this thread. I am in favor of a social safety net, and am in favor of going after those who abuse the system but frankly what we now have going on right now with the oligarch class abusing our system to the tune of hundreds of billions, their plans for destroying our middle class and dismantling 50 years of progress on protections for workers, for the environment, for civil rights and everything else while literally buying Presidents with no real aim other than further enriching themselves, is far worse than anything else.

And I do think the MAGAs here fall into several categories. Some are very likely boomers as the OP suggested, who take everything they have for granted while wanting to pull the ladder up behind themselves, but others are redpilled young males who are completely indoctrinated and clueless to reality (especially the DCUM MAGAs who post glib one-liners not understanding their ass is completely flapping in the breeze), while others are deranged one-issue wonders, like the recurring "men in female sports" histrionics poster, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are one or two posters here who are financially invested, their job in the DMV is in working for the right wing in some capacity or another, whether lobbying or otherwise. And yes, some of them don't sound very bright, and there is at least one or two who do a lot of arrogant, condescending posts attempting to gaslight us thinking they are much smarter than they actually are. For sure, there are some prolific MAGA posters who are VERY recognizable based on their style.

We desperately need a 3rd party who stands up for the middle class. Because you're right when you say that Republicans are for the rich. And the Dems are for...well...who knows? They abandoned the working class in favor of "the most marginalized." As for men in women's sports, I use that one a lot because it represents a whole cadre of woke insanity: defund the police, teaching CRT, open borders, etc. because it's the craziest of them all.

I'm not going to equate the two parties during the Trump era but it is true that both parties are fully committed to looking out for the interests of their wealthy donors first and foremost. The very sad thing is seeing regular everyday working class people continuing to be fooled into donating money to RNC and DNC causes.

I keep reading variations of this in this forum. What is the alternative? We don't have a real multi-party system like many other countries do and which are forced to work in a coalition. Tuning out and giving up just emboldens the people who are taking advantage of the electorate.

The alternative is refusing to vote for people that shouldn't be POTUS. As long as we continue to be willing to vote for any piece of garbage preferred by the wealthy donors of our two parties, we will continue to vote for pieces of garbage.

Stop voting for demagogues in primaries. Do more critical thinking, get the facts, be informed and reject the liars, the corrupt, the criminals and the hypocrites. Reject candidates backed by oligarchs. There are many things we can and should be done.

All of this and also be sure to reject unfit 78 year old people as well but of course a third grader could figure that out so I'm sure none my fellow adult Americans would ever be duped into electing an unfit 78 year old.... lol

Looking at the DCUM poster crowing about Trump's "majority" - they were certainly duped into voting for an unfit geezer with dementia.

You seem duped if you don’t understand he won the election. Are you an election denier? Because in the world of reality, the winner is the person with the most votes and that’s exactly who
Trump is.

Keep crying.

Most of us are smart enough to realize the unfit geezer Trump only won because the unfit geezer current president bumbled and fumbled an election gift to Trump. When one unfit geezer "wins" solely because of the misdeeds of another unfit geezer, no one actually "wins".

We swapped an unfit geezer who wasn't actually all that bad for another unfit geezer who's absolutely terrible. America lost, bigly.