Middlebury vs Tufts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the college newspaper at Middlebury, over 90% graduate with Latin honors and 56% graduate summa cum laude. This suggests that the school has widespread grade inflation and is less than rigorous.

Middlebury College has a housing shortages and some financial woe

Middlebury College is ranked at #19 among LACs by US News.

Actually it says no such thing. What is does say is that the base was set too low. Harvard hit 91%.

Middlebury has no financial woes, they have a $1.6 billion endowment but a small nagging deficit because of Monterey.

They do. It have any housing issues at all.

Rankings have dropped because of social justice metrics.

Just stop, you sound like a broken record and it is annoying having to bat you around.

[Anonymous]

Middlebury is absolutely more prestigious than Tufts. This is separate from the rankings, which, if you want to go there, Tufts has been falling in since before ANY methodology changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury has suffered under Laurie Patton. Thankfully a new president will be named in the coming months.

What has she done? The school is better financial health than when she entered

She was way too slow to start the last capital campaign.

She didn’t handle the Charles Murray incident well.

She wasn’t great at addressing a couple of deaths on campus

She wasn’t terrible, but she wasn’t great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury has suffered under Laurie Patton. Thankfully a new president will be named in the coming months.

What has she done? The school is better financial health than when she entered

I think that she was just "Mid" as far as things go. I don't know of anything bad, but nothing great stands out either. She handled the Murray incident ok, and the student deaths incidents ok, keeping them from spiraling out of hand but not a deft touch in either.

She went 8 years between capital campaigns so even if in better shape she was slow to drive the endowment. It should be $2B by now.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is far more prestigious. Tufts is ranked around the same as 70k student population New Jersey flagship Rutgers. Middlebury is consistently ranked in the t20 LACs nationally and doesn't even have the Boston metro area location to prop up its demand.

No one thinks Middlebury is more prestigious than Tufts.

Most anyone with the ability to think does. Wall Street most definitely does. MBB absolutely does.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is far more prestigious. Tufts is ranked around the same as 70k student population New Jersey flagship Rutgers. Middlebury is consistently ranked in the t20 LACs nationally and doesn't even have the Boston metro area location to prop up its demand.

No one thinks Middlebury is more prestigious than Tufts.

Most anyone with the ability to think does. Wall Street most definitely does. MBB absolutely does.

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[Anonymous]

Both schools have fallen significantly in last 5-10 years. Tufts has better location near Boston. Midd in the middle of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

To the Middlebury College booster who has posted repeatedly in this thread: Your childish & rude comments do more harm to Middlebury's image than anything else posted in this thread. Your either a giant a-hole or a clever Tufts booster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is NOT a serious school. 90% of students get honors at graduation, half get the highest honors, they have a cheating crisis, and they’ve severely reduced the amount of classes needed to graduate. There’s 0 standards.

They reduced the number of classes needed to graduate from 36 to 34. Hardly "severe." And they did this to give students more flexibility for internships during J-term. And many schools are dealing with an increase in cheating--particularly those with an honor code--mostly due to the use of AI and stresses and autonomy brought about during Covid.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/cheating-has-become-normal

They have increased enrollment “unofficially” — and permanently — by well over 10% the past few years to deal with huge financial losses in study abroad programs and Monterey — all at the expense of the undergrad campus. Their increase in % of class admitted ED (where higher proportion of kids are full pay) has to be seen in this light.

WTF, just quit lying. They are increasing enrollment by between 100-120 students slowly over the next 4 years as the new dorm gets finished and another remodeled. That is a reduction of 200 students from the COVID peak. You are just an angry blithering fool.

What to do when caught in a lie? Keep lying and call the other person a liar. You sound like you work for Middlebury marketing:
https://www.middleburycampus.com/article/2025/04/middlebury-slashes-budget-by-over-10-million-imposes-partial-hiring-freeze#:~:text=The%20college%20announced%20a%20series,enrollment%20projection%20to%202%2C600%E2%80%932%2C650.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is absolutely more prestigious than Tufts. This is separate from the rankings, which, if you want to go there, Tufts has been falling in since before ANY methodology changes.

Is that why Middlebury's acceptance rate is increasing, despite the fact that they take everyone ED?
https://www.middleburycampus.com/article/2025/05/applications-drop-to-five-year-low-as-acceptance-rate-increases#:~:text=Middlebury%20saw%20its%20acceptance%20rate,classes%20of%202027%20and%202027.5.

Tufts:
https://now.tufts.edu/2025/03/24/meet-admitted-undergraduate-class-2029

Middlebury is bleeding and everyone in higher education knows it..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is far more prestigious. Tufts is ranked around the same as 70k student population New Jersey flagship Rutgers. Middlebury is consistently ranked in the t20 LACs nationally and doesn't even have the Boston metro area location to prop up its demand.

No one thinks Middlebury is more prestigious than Tufts.

This ranking of colleges and universities together, which relies on mostly traditional measures, placed Middlebury, at 40th, more highly than Tufts, at 47th:

https://wallethub.com/edu/e/college-rankings/40750

[Anonymous]

Tufts just isn't a good school. It's the northeastern equivalent of Tulane (No, Northeastern isn't the equivalent of Tulane in the northeast, it's below Tulane.) Sorry!

[Anonymous]

Tufts has a better future. Boston is a big draw, and will continue to be a big draw, for a university's biggest need- students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury is NOT a serious school. 90% of students get honors at graduation, half get the highest honors, they have a cheating crisis, and they’ve severely reduced the amount of classes needed to graduate. There’s 0 standards.

They reduced the number of classes needed to graduate from 36 to 34. Hardly "severe." And they did this to give students more flexibility for internships during J-term. And many schools are dealing with an increase in cheating--particularly those with an honor code--mostly due to the use of AI and stresses and autonomy brought about during Covid.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/cheating-has-become-normal

They have increased enrollment “unofficially” — and permanently — by well over 10% the past few years to deal with huge financial losses in study abroad programs and Monterey — all at the expense of the undergrad campus. Their increase in % of class admitted ED (where higher proportion of kids are full pay) has to be seen in this light.

WTF, just quit lying. They are increasing enrollment by between 100-120 students slowly over the next 4 years as the new dorm gets finished and another remodeled. That is a reduction of 200 students from the COVID peak. You are just an angry blithering fool.

What to do when caught in a lie? Keep lying and call the other person a liar. You sound like you work for Middlebury marketing:
https://www.middleburycampus.com/article/2025/04/middlebury-slashes-budget-by-over-10-million-imposes-partial-hiring-freeze#:~:text=The%20college%20announced%20a%20series,enrollment%20projection%20to%202%2C600%E2%80%932%2C650.

You might want to read that article before you post. It confirms what the poster said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tufts just isn't a good school. It's the northeastern equivalent of Tulane (No, Northeastern isn't the equivalent of Tulane in the northeast, it's below Tulane.) Sorry!

This is insane! Tulane average sat 1400 vs Tufts 1500.
Tufts is for ivy rejects, Tulane is not.