White people obsession with kids sports

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a first gen Asian immigrant and have a middle schooler and elementary schooler. I grew up in Asia and moved here as an adult. In the course of raising my kids, I’ ve gotten to know people from various ethnicity and races. My immigrant friends from India, china, Korea, Nigeria, Pakistan, Ghana all have one thing in common in that doing well academically is valued. Some of these cultures values sports but it’s only pursued seriously if the child has a tremendous level of motivation and talent. Otherwise, sports is something you do for fun and stay active. We’re unlikely to spend $$ and time pursuing travel sports or private coaching etc for an average kid.
As I interact with white colleagues, especially at work, their life revolves around sports. They coach multiple kids teams, 2 year olds are ice rinks over the weekend learning to skate. The level of rigor and commitment amazed me.
I ask this from a place of curiosity and not judgement - why is the cultural importance of sports higher than academics in the American society? I mean, an above average soccer player has zero prospects in soccer while an above average engineer can make 6 digits right out of school. Can you help me understand?

Leadership training.

Team sports teach how to lead and communicate under pressure.

I'm sure that year of intramural soccer did wonders for leadership training.

Please be fr. How many people are playing sports in college at a truly competitive level? Very few.

You don't have to play sports at the college-level to benefit from leadership and teamwork. I would argue that you get more of those training by playing sports at a younger formative age.

I played volleyball in middle school and high school. I was not good enough to play in college and learned to accept that brutal truth at a young age. I continued to play club and intramural in college. It helped me deal with stress and stay healthy. It also helped me foster my competitive drive which served me well in the corporate world.

I admire the beer daddy league softball teams. At least they're getting off the screen and being a human with other humans

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a first gen Asian immigrant and have a middle schooler and elementary schooler. I grew up in Asia and moved here as an adult. In the course of raising my kids, I’ ve gotten to know people from various ethnicity and races. My immigrant friends from India, china, Korea, Nigeria, Pakistan, Ghana all have one thing in common in that doing well academically is valued. Some of these cultures values sports but it’s only pursued seriously if the child has a tremendous level of motivation and talent. Otherwise, sports is something you do for fun and stay active. We’re unlikely to spend $$ and time pursuing travel sports or private coaching etc for an average kid.
As I interact with white colleagues, especially at work, their life revolves around sports. They coach multiple kids teams, 2 year olds are ice rinks over the weekend learning to skate. The level of rigor and commitment amazed me.
I ask this from a place of curiosity and not judgement - why is the cultural importance of sports higher than academics in the American society? I mean, an above average soccer player has zero prospects in soccer while an above average engineer can make 6 digits right out of school. Can you help me understand?

Leadership training.

Team sports teach how to lead and communicate under pressure.

I'm sure that year of intramural soccer did wonders for leadership training.

Please be fr. How many people are playing sports in college at a truly competitive level? Very few.

You don't have to play sports at the college-level to benefit from leadership and teamwork. I would argue that you get more of those training by playing sports at a younger formative age.

I played volleyball in middle school and high school. I was not good enough to play in college and learned to accept that brutal truth at a young age. I continued to play club and intramural in college. It helped me deal with stress and stay healthy. It also helped me foster my competitive drive which served me well in the corporate world.

I admire the beer daddy league softball teams. At least they're getting off the screen and being a human with other humans

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. I do genuinely admire people of all ages, gender, skills, and fitness level participating in sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread is pretty devoid of actual information but sure is full of mindless generalizations. So congrats.

First I want to point out a problem with OP's argument that is common of racial generalizations on this website: "Asians" and "Asian immigrants to the US" are not the same. There are things that are common Asian immigrants in the US that are not necessarily true of all Asian people.

Also the nature of immigration skews perceptions of US culture. OP is basing their perception on interactions with colleagues. I am guessing OP works in a white collar profession in the DC area and that their workplace is full of UMC white people from UMC backgrounds. OP might have different perceptions if they were working in a different setting. OP has a view of "American culture" that is viewed on a narrow experience and with an outsider bent. All of this tends to skew reality.

Here are some actual statistics on youth sports participation:



While white children participate in sports at slightly higher rates than other races, it is not nearly as dramatic as some of you are portraying it. Also the participation of both white and black children in youth sports has actually declined in the last 10 years whereas rates of participation among AAPI and hispanic children are either holding steady or increasing.

The real divide is in family income -- families with HHIs of 100k or more account for nearly half of all youth sport participation. This should be unsurprising to most people -- youth sports are increasingly expensive and also require a lot of time investment by parents. So there is a clear advantage for families with both more financial resources and the kinds of jobs that accommodate having a stay at home or part time parent, or schedules that are conducive to things like evening and weekend practices (parents doing shift work have a serious issue with these demands).

The narrative that white people care a lot about sports and Asian people don't is both wrong and interesting -- the fact that so many of you are ignoring the participation of black and hispanic kids in youth sports altogether says a lot about who you view as your peers and who "counts" when it comes to cultural perceptions.

https://projectplay.org/youth-sports/facts/participation-rates

There’s a lot of grey to this.

I’m Hispanic and I don’t know a lot of other Hispanic families that go hardcore into sports. Our kids play games of soccer organized by themselves, occasional sports at the community center (not every year, not every season), and less often on school teams. It’s not intense unless the kid is showing talent.

I think OP is talking about a culture of sports where parents will take an average child and have them practice organized youth sports multiple times a week and spend weekends at games for a good part of the year. That’s very different imo.

Again, I’m speaking out of what I see and have experienced, but that type of difference, if widespread and not just me, wouldn’t be reflected in the data above.

Your experience IS reflected in the data -- you are part of the large percent of hispanic families that don't emphasize sports. It's right there in the data. The chart doesn't say "100% of hispanic families have children in travel sports." Though there are absolutely hispanic families in the US who are obsessed with sports -- please spend literally any time in schools in parts of Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona (I grew up in one of these states and have first hand experience) and then get back to me. Baseball and football in these areas are often dominated by hispanic players. You also see high participation in other sports. No one in Las Cruces New Mexico sits around musing "why are white people so obsessed with kids sports" because that would be stupid.

It also doesn't say that 0% of Asian families have kids in sports. Because that's not true! It's also not true that 100% of white families are obsessed with sports. These are simply not accurate statements and yet it hasn't stopped people on this thread from posting broad generalizations about large groups of people based on their anecdotal observation of how the people they know in their own life behave. Your personal experience may be interesting but it is not a foundation to draw conclusions about how participation in sports varies among races.

Your specific experience is interesting but it's not data and it doesn't undermine the assertion that there are actually pretty minimal differences in sports participation between races in the US, and that the more significant division is between between families based on income.

Yeah, I get that it doesn’t say 100%. Your response is really condescending, and that’s unnecessary.

My point is that there’s a big difference in what “regularly playing” means in terms of intensity. Your graph doesn’t capture that. Maybe the if it did, the difference would still be insignificant across all racial groups, or maybe the difference OP noted would appear.

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Op it’s a little obnoxious to say these culture value education as if American white people don’t. The immigrants coming here usually from wealthier background so there’s also that.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread is pretty devoid of actual information but sure is full of mindless generalizations. So congrats.

First I want to point out a problem with OP's argument that is common of racial generalizations on this website: "Asians" and "Asian immigrants to the US" are not the same. There are things that are common Asian immigrants in the US that are not necessarily true of all Asian people.

Also the nature of immigration skews perceptions of US culture. OP is basing their perception on interactions with colleagues. I am guessing OP works in a white collar profession in the DC area and that their workplace is full of UMC white people from UMC backgrounds. OP might have different perceptions if they were working in a different setting. OP has a view of "American culture" that is viewed on a narrow experience and with an outsider bent. All of this tends to skew reality.

Here are some actual statistics on youth sports participation:



While white children participate in sports at slightly higher rates than other races, it is not nearly as dramatic as some of you are portraying it. Also the participation of both white and black children in youth sports has actually declined in the last 10 years whereas rates of participation among AAPI and hispanic children are either holding steady or increasing.

The real divide is in family income -- families with HHIs of 100k or more account for nearly half of all youth sport participation. This should be unsurprising to most people -- youth sports are increasingly expensive and also require a lot of time investment by parents. So there is a clear advantage for families with both more financial resources and the kinds of jobs that accommodate having a stay at home or part time parent, or schedules that are conducive to things like evening and weekend practices (parents doing shift work have a serious issue with these demands).

The narrative that white people care a lot about sports and Asian people don't is both wrong and interesting -- the fact that so many of you are ignoring the participation of black and hispanic kids in youth sports altogether says a lot about who you view as your peers and who "counts" when it comes to cultural perceptions.

https://projectplay.org/youth-sports/facts/participation-rates

There’s a lot of grey to this.

I’m Hispanic and I don’t know a lot of other Hispanic families that go hardcore into sports. Our kids play games of soccer organized by themselves, occasional sports at the community center (not every year, not every season), and less often on school teams. It’s not intense unless the kid is showing talent.

I think OP is talking about a culture of sports where parents will take an average child and have them practice organized youth sports multiple times a week and spend weekends at games for a good part of the year. That’s very different imo.

Again, I’m speaking out of what I see and have experienced, but that type of difference, if widespread and not just me, wouldn’t be reflected in the data above.

Op here. The Hispanic PP is spot on. It’s not like immigrant cultures don’t play sports. It’s just not at that level of intensity unless parents see a real talent and drive with the kids. 90% of my colleagues at work have kids playing travel sports especially those that have boys. It feels like it’s a mold to fit for kids irrespective of talent. That’s the part that is absent in other countries. Sure team sports teaches you some skills but it’s not the only way to learn leadership. Lead any club at high school, organize an event or fundraiser and you’ll learn these.
Thanks to all those who made an worry at trying to answer.

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The fact of the matter is less than 1 percent of these delusional travel sports kids will play and level of college and .05 percent will play d1

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Anonymous wrote:Op it’s a little obnoxious to say these culture value education as if American white people don’t. The immigrants coming here usually from wealthier background so there’s also that.

Op again, I saw some white kids (and even fewer black and Hispanic kids but those systemic issues are well researched and noted) at my sons ‘It’s academic’ completion this weekend. That is also a quizzing team activity and they were definitely under represented. Our highest level math class has lower than 15% white kids in a school with over 50% white by demographic. Sure, it’s all anecdotal but I’m sharing what I see.
I understand why Asian parents push education even though I don’t. Because often in our countries of origin, completion is intense and you try to inculcate the same work ethic in your kids. The analogy doesn’t extend directly to sports for kids being raised in relative comfort and privilege.

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White person here who emphasized competitive travel sports AND academics. We exist.

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Anonymous wrote:White person here who emphasized competitive travel sports AND academics. We exist.

Big deal

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a first gen Asian immigrant and have a middle schooler and elementary schooler. I grew up in Asia and moved here as an adult. In the course of raising my kids, I’ ve gotten to know people from various ethnicity and races. My immigrant friends from India, china, Korea, Nigeria, Pakistan, Ghana all have one thing in common in that doing well academically is valued. Some of these cultures values sports but it’s only pursued seriously if the child has a tremendous level of motivation and talent. Otherwise, sports is something you do for fun and stay active. We’re unlikely to spend $$ and time pursuing travel sports or private coaching etc for an average kid.
As I interact with white colleagues, especially at work, their life revolves around sports. They coach multiple kids teams, 2 year olds are ice rinks over the weekend learning to skate. The level of rigor and commitment amazed me.
I ask this from a place of curiosity and not judgement - why is the cultural importance of sports higher than academics in the American society? I mean, an above average soccer player has zero prospects in soccer while an above average engineer can make 6 digits right out of school. Can you help me understand?

Leadership training.

Team sports teach how to lead and communicate under pressure.

Without the added pressure of an iinduvudusk sport . White people can blame the other race when then lose

Clearly you are not from one of those cultures that values education. Or sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread is pretty devoid of actual information but sure is full of mindless generalizations. So congrats.

First I want to point out a problem with OP's argument that is common of racial generalizations on this website: "Asians" and "Asian immigrants to the US" are not the same. There are things that are common Asian immigrants in the US that are not necessarily true of all Asian people.

Also the nature of immigration skews perceptions of US culture. OP is basing their perception on interactions with colleagues. I am guessing OP works in a white collar profession in the DC area and that their workplace is full of UMC white people from UMC backgrounds. OP might have different perceptions if they were working in a different setting. OP has a view of "American culture" that is viewed on a narrow experience and with an outsider bent. All of this tends to skew reality.

Here are some actual statistics on youth sports participation:



While white children participate in sports at slightly higher rates than other races, it is not nearly as dramatic as some of you are portraying it. Also the participation of both white and black children in youth sports has actually declined in the last 10 years whereas rates of participation among AAPI and hispanic children are either holding steady or increasing.

The real divide is in family income -- families with HHIs of 100k or more account for nearly half of all youth sport participation. This should be unsurprising to most people -- youth sports are increasingly expensive and also require a lot of time investment by parents. So there is a clear advantage for families with both more financial resources and the kinds of jobs that accommodate having a stay at home or part time parent, or schedules that are conducive to things like evening and weekend practices (parents doing shift work have a serious issue with these demands).

The narrative that white people care a lot about sports and Asian people don't is both wrong and interesting -- the fact that so many of you are ignoring the participation of black and hispanic kids in youth sports altogether says a lot about who you view as your peers and who "counts" when it comes to cultural perceptions.

https://projectplay.org/youth-sports/facts/participation-rates

There’s a lot of grey to this.

I’m Hispanic and I don’t know a lot of other Hispanic families that go hardcore into sports. Our kids play games of soccer organized by themselves, occasional sports at the community center (not every year, not every season), and less often on school teams. It’s not intense unless the kid is showing talent.

I think OP is talking about a culture of sports where parents will take an average child and have them practice organized youth sports multiple times a week and spend weekends at games for a good part of the year. That’s very different imo.

Again, I’m speaking out of what I see and have experienced, but that type of difference, if widespread and not just me, wouldn’t be reflected in the data above.

Op here. The Hispanic PP is spot on. It’s not like immigrant cultures don’t play sports. It’s just not at that level of intensity unless parents see a real talent and drive with the kids. 90% of my colleagues at work have kids playing travel sports especially those that have boys. It feels like it’s a mold to fit for kids irrespective of talent. That’s the part that is absent in other countries. Sure team sports teaches you some skills but it’s not the only way to learn leadership. Lead any club at high school, organize an event or fundraiser and you’ll learn these.
Thanks to all those who made an worry at trying to answer.

You and the Hispanic PP live in some weird bubble. Your experiences are hardly universal and multiple people are pointing out where you’re wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is less than 1 percent of these delusional travel sports kids will play and level of college and .05 percent will play d1

And about that many violin players will play in a professional symphony. That doesn’t stop anyone from trying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread is pretty devoid of actual information but sure is full of mindless generalizations. So congrats.

First I want to point out a problem with OP's argument that is common of racial generalizations on this website: "Asians" and "Asian immigrants to the US" are not the same. There are things that are common Asian immigrants in the US that are not necessarily true of all Asian people.

Also the nature of immigration skews perceptions of US culture. OP is basing their perception on interactions with colleagues. I am guessing OP works in a white collar profession in the DC area and that their workplace is full of UMC white people from UMC backgrounds. OP might have different perceptions if they were working in a different setting. OP has a view of "American culture" that is viewed on a narrow experience and with an outsider bent. All of this tends to skew reality.

Here are some actual statistics on youth sports participation:



While white children participate in sports at slightly higher rates than other races, it is not nearly as dramatic as some of you are portraying it. Also the participation of both white and black children in youth sports has actually declined in the last 10 years whereas rates of participation among AAPI and hispanic children are either holding steady or increasing.

The real divide is in family income -- families with HHIs of 100k or more account for nearly half of all youth sport participation. This should be unsurprising to most people -- youth sports are increasingly expensive and also require a lot of time investment by parents. So there is a clear advantage for families with both more financial resources and the kinds of jobs that accommodate having a stay at home or part time parent, or schedules that are conducive to things like evening and weekend practices (parents doing shift work have a serious issue with these demands).

The narrative that white people care a lot about sports and Asian people don't is both wrong and interesting -- the fact that so many of you are ignoring the participation of black and hispanic kids in youth sports altogether says a lot about who you view as your peers and who "counts" when it comes to cultural perceptions.

https://projectplay.org/youth-sports/facts/participation-rates

There’s a lot of grey to this.

I’m Hispanic and I don’t know a lot of other Hispanic families that go hardcore into sports. Our kids play games of soccer organized by themselves, occasional sports at the community center (not every year, not every season), and less often on school teams. It’s not intense unless the kid is showing talent.

I think OP is talking about a culture of sports where parents will take an average child and have them practice organized youth sports multiple times a week and spend weekends at games for a good part of the year. That’s very different imo.

Again, I’m speaking out of what I see and have experienced, but that type of difference, if widespread and not just me, wouldn’t be reflected in the data above.

Your experience IS reflected in the data -- you are part of the large percent of hispanic families that don't emphasize sports. It's right there in the data. The chart doesn't say "100% of hispanic families have children in travel sports." Though there are absolutely hispanic families in the US who are obsessed with sports -- please spend literally any time in schools in parts of Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona (I grew up in one of these states and have first hand experience) and then get back to me. Baseball and football in these areas are often dominated by hispanic players. You also see high participation in other sports. No one in Las Cruces New Mexico sits around musing "why are white people so obsessed with kids sports" because that would be stupid.

It also doesn't say that 0% of Asian families have kids in sports. Because that's not true! It's also not true that 100% of white families are obsessed with sports. These are simply not accurate statements and yet it hasn't stopped people on this thread from posting broad generalizations about large groups of people based on their anecdotal observation of how the people they know in their own life behave. Your personal experience may be interesting but it is not a foundation to draw conclusions about how participation in sports varies among races.

Your specific experience is interesting but it's not data and it doesn't undermine the assertion that there are actually pretty minimal differences in sports participation between races in the US, and that the more significant division is between between families based on income.

Yeah, I get that it doesn’t say 100%. Your response is really condescending, and that’s unnecessary.

My point is that there’s a big difference in what “regularly playing” means in terms of intensity. Your graph doesn’t capture that. Maybe the if it did, the difference would still be insignificant across all racial groups, or maybe the difference OP noted would appear.

There are lots of hispanic families who are obsessive about youth football and baseball. Just because that's not you doesn't mean they don't exist. You are determined to push a narrative about how certain races are better parents than other races which is weird and deserves condescension. And is based on nothing but your extremely biased and self-interested personal observations and not on actual data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a first gen Asian immigrant and have a middle schooler and elementary schooler. I grew up in Asia and moved here as an adult. In the course of raising my kids, I’ ve gotten to know people from various ethnicity and races. My immigrant friends from India, china, Korea, Nigeria, Pakistan, Ghana all have one thing in common in that doing well academically is valued. Some of these cultures values sports but it’s only pursued seriously if the child has a tremendous level of motivation and talent. Otherwise, sports is something you do for fun and stay active. We’re unlikely to spend $$ and time pursuing travel sports or private coaching etc for an average kid.
As I interact with white colleagues, especially at work, their life revolves around sports. They coach multiple kids teams, 2 year olds are ice rinks over the weekend learning to skate. The level of rigor and commitment amazed me.
I ask this from a place of curiosity and not judgement - why is the cultural importance of sports higher than academics in the American society? I mean, an above average soccer player has zero prospects in soccer while an above average engineer can make 6 digits right out of school. Can you help me understand?

Leadership training.

Team sports teach how to lead and communicate under pressure.

I'm sure that year of intramural soccer did wonders for leadership training.

Please be fr. How many people are playing sports in college at a truly competitive level? Very few.

You don't have to play sports at the college-level to benefit from leadership and teamwork. I would argue that you get more of those training by playing sports at a younger formative age.

I played volleyball in middle school and high school. I was not good enough to play in college and learned to accept that brutal truth at a young age. I continued to play club and intramural in college. It helped me deal with stress and stay healthy. It also helped me foster my competitive drive which served me well in the corporate world.

While this is true, colleges are looking for athletes. What top college is found is that somebody, actually 75% of the class, isn’t gonna be in the top 25% of the class.

They found that when they only recruited Smart kids to top colleges the ones who were not in the top 25% for the first time in their whole lives. Had a really hard time.

But there was a group of students that didn’t have a hard time not being in the top 25%. They were students that had something other than academics in their lives like arts, performance, sports, etc..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread is pretty devoid of actual information but sure is full of mindless generalizations. So congrats.

First I want to point out a problem with OP's argument that is common of racial generalizations on this website: "Asians" and "Asian immigrants to the US" are not the same. There are things that are common Asian immigrants in the US that are not necessarily true of all Asian people.

Also the nature of immigration skews perceptions of US culture. OP is basing their perception on interactions with colleagues. I am guessing OP works in a white collar profession in the DC area and that their workplace is full of UMC white people from UMC backgrounds. OP might have different perceptions if they were working in a different setting. OP has a view of "American culture" that is viewed on a narrow experience and with an outsider bent. All of this tends to skew reality.

Here are some actual statistics on youth sports participation:



While white children participate in sports at slightly higher rates than other races, it is not nearly as dramatic as some of you are portraying it. Also the participation of both white and black children in youth sports has actually declined in the last 10 years whereas rates of participation among AAPI and hispanic children are either holding steady or increasing.

The real divide is in family income -- families with HHIs of 100k or more account for nearly half of all youth sport participation. This should be unsurprising to most people -- youth sports are increasingly expensive and also require a lot of time investment by parents. So there is a clear advantage for families with both more financial resources and the kinds of jobs that accommodate having a stay at home or part time parent, or schedules that are conducive to things like evening and weekend practices (parents doing shift work have a serious issue with these demands).

The narrative that white people care a lot about sports and Asian people don't is both wrong and interesting -- the fact that so many of you are ignoring the participation of black and hispanic kids in youth sports altogether says a lot about who you view as your peers and who "counts" when it comes to cultural perceptions.

https://projectplay.org/youth-sports/facts/participation-rates

There’s a lot of grey to this.

I’m Hispanic and I don’t know a lot of other Hispanic families that go hardcore into sports. Our kids play games of soccer organized by themselves, occasional sports at the community center (not every year, not every season), and less often on school teams. It’s not intense unless the kid is showing talent.

I think OP is talking about a culture of sports where parents will take an average child and have them practice organized youth sports multiple times a week and spend weekends at games for a good part of the year. That’s very different imo.

Again, I’m speaking out of what I see and have experienced, but that type of difference, if widespread and not just me, wouldn’t be reflected in the data above.

Your experience IS reflected in the data -- you are part of the large percent of hispanic families that don't emphasize sports. It's right there in the data. The chart doesn't say "100% of hispanic families have children in travel sports." Though there are absolutely hispanic families in the US who are obsessed with sports -- please spend literally any time in schools in parts of Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona (I grew up in one of these states and have first hand experience) and then get back to me. Baseball and football in these areas are often dominated by hispanic players. You also see high participation in other sports. No one in Las Cruces New Mexico sits around musing "why are white people so obsessed with kids sports" because that would be stupid.

It also doesn't say that 0% of Asian families have kids in sports. Because that's not true! It's also not true that 100% of white families are obsessed with sports. These are simply not accurate statements and yet it hasn't stopped people on this thread from posting broad generalizations about large groups of people based on their anecdotal observation of how the people they know in their own life behave. Your personal experience may be interesting but it is not a foundation to draw conclusions about how participation in sports varies among races.

Your specific experience is interesting but it's not data and it doesn't undermine the assertion that there are actually pretty minimal differences in sports participation between races in the US, and that the more significant division is between between families based on income.

Yeah, I get that it doesn’t say 100%. Your response is really condescending, and that’s unnecessary.

My point is that there’s a big difference in what “regularly playing” means in terms of intensity. Your graph doesn’t capture that. Maybe the if it did, the difference would still be insignificant across all racial groups, or maybe the difference OP noted would appear.

There are lots of hispanic families who are obsessive about youth football and baseball. Just because that's not you doesn't mean they don't exist. You are determined to push a narrative about how certain races are better parents than other races which is weird and deserves condescension. And is based on nothing but your extremely biased and self-interested personal observations and not on actual data.

If you read my comment, you would see that I said you could be correct. I have no agenda. I think there could be value to playing sports. Your graph, however, doesn’t address anything more than who plays sports “regularly.” Your graph doesn’t make the point you claim: that there’s little difference among racial groups. There’s little difference in that metric, but that metric doesn’t account for the intensity OP is interested in exploring.

My kids who play rec sports would count as playing regularly right now according to that graph. They don’t do it every year, but they would count in that category if polled now.

They have friends, on the other hand, who are far more intense in their sports. Counting them both as regularly playing doesn’t really make sense in this specific context (OP’s question/observation).

Data is good, but not all data is fully relevant. If you have better data, post it! I’d love to see if there’s no difference in intensity. I’m just saying right now that you posted a graph which counts playing regularly as all the same. That’s not data that says OP and so many others on this thread are automatically wrong.