MAGA - describe when America was “Great”
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ok, we agree. But you only mentioned the two didn't to make your earlier point, which was why I asked. |
Anonymous
And Qualcomm is and will be in a much better position to take advantage of the CHIPs program. Ask me how I know. |
Anonymous
| MAGAs will never accept that their antiquated worldview is what will kill America. A bunch of myopic goons listening to Trump tell them how wonderful America will be under him. Telling coal miners coal will come back. Meanwhile, he didn't do sh*t about infrastructure as other countries (full of non-whites) appear to be investing in their futures while this one is full of psychos making 10yo leave their state to get an abortion and thinking some trans athlete is their biggest problem. I'm absolutely against trans competing in sports that give them a biological advantage, but that sure as hell no where near the top of my list of priorities. |
Anonymous
My apologies. I should've been clearer. It's just galling to me listening to right-wing hypocrites pretend they care about "the best (wo)man for the job" and then try to tell me people who never had to earn what they have (all of whom are white), deserve what they have. No, Bush never deserved to be at Yale or HBS, so why are they so obsessed with some black kid with a 3.8 getting in, but ignoring the white legacy with the 2.0 (if that)? The instinct of the right-wing to believe anyone non-white got handed their place at a university or on the SC, is why I'm disgusted by them. |
Anonymous
the middle class was strong in the 1950's and 60's when unions were strong and the marginal tax rates for the top 20% was over 50%. |
Anonymous
Trump's policies are poor, but he is pointing out a number of flaws. If you invest strongly in America, you have a strong manufacturing base, you have domestic energy production, then you won't suffer as badly against global competitors It's a pretty easy message that other less damaged politicians could run on and implement. Both parties should focus on that stuff first, and foreign adventures and social issues can be worried about later. |
Anonymous
You’ve made important points. Those families weren’t perfect, yet their children became adults who could read and write. |
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+1 |
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LOL at your flippant answer that the 1950s were so great because "things got better" for black Americans. Was just reading a review about a new book about Emmitt Till's murder. Ask your black friends and family members if they remember the 1950s fondly, when they had to act subservient, couldn't move into certain areas, couldn't get certain jobs or get into certain schools, and where representations of black Americans in movies were all painful stereotypes. And would you really, as a woman, go back to a time where casual sexism was rampant, where you'd have been asked to leave jobs if you got married or had children, where it wasn't illegal to pay you way less than your male colleagues for the same job, where you couldn't take out a mortgage or get a credit card without having a male co-sign? I hear you that you want to be a SAHM who is expected to wait hand and foot on your husband and children - fine. No one is stopping you from doing that now. Also, regarding your last sentence, why would you want to live in an era where your gay friends and family had to suppress themselves or risk being jailed for loving someone??? Yikes. |
Anonymous
Which one of those presidents came from a wealthy, privileged, connected family? Thanks for answering. |
Anonymous
Yeah. Let’s look at 1959 to 1998. We had Vietnam, the Iran hostage crisis, the Cold War and the Cuban Missile Crisis. We also had the first Gulf War. Nixon was freezing wages and prices and 15%+ mortgage rates. The highest marginal tax rate was 90%. There were long lines for has, and in some places you could only get gas every other day. In many cases, women could not: get abortions (hospitals had septic wards), get birth control unless married, get credit cards or bank accounts without a spouse’s okay, buy a house in their name, perform many jobs or attend many colleges. They could legally be fired for being pregnant. They could legally be paid less for doing the same job as a man, because it was assumed they were married to a man able to provide. They couldn’t leave abusive marriage because they could support themselves and their kids and we had no fault divorce. LGBTQ people were expected to stay in the closet and stay quiet. AIDS was spreading like wildfire and Reagan was fine with that. The south was fighting desegregation with everything they could and we had poll taxes. They could buy homes in certain neighborhoods Many Black citizens couldn’t vote and discrimination based on race, religion, sex, ethnicity was legal in hiring. I’m later Gen X. I’m sure it was a great time to be a straight white male with bone spurs or educational deferrals from Vietnam. Not so much for everyone else. Straight white men could be Masters of the Universe, treat everyone else poorly and legally discriminate. They were handed the best jobs and educational opportunities without having to compete. They could drop the N would and call openly call women b**ches and it was fine. We were not at Peace. The economy was not amazing, the government taxed the wealthy at insanely high rates to do things like support state colleges and build infrastructure (which the opposite of MAGA) and everyone who wasn’t a straight white male and the ability to avoid the draft got shafted/ was legally a second class citizen. MAGA! |
Anonymous
White children you mean. And you assume that all nuclear families are functional. Making it legally and practically impossible for women to leave bad marriages doesn’t mean the kids who grew up in those families and the women who were trapped in bad situations had it great. Ask Gen X. |
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Instead of thinking of countries in terms "time", maybe we should think of them in terms of "space". There are many countries in the world and we could argue that some are "greater" than others in various ways (and where they are located and their resources and how they use them have much to do with this). So given that time cannot be turned back (all of the technology is only going to progress and the competition in this area cannot be denied), it is unrealistic to think that things will be the same going forward. But how can we use our space/resources and the knowledge we have to create better living conditions? How can we help the world to live better (which is the moral high ground)? Only thinking about this from a transactional viewpoint may not be the best paradigm. This is what we need to discuss. We were fortunate to have many advantages stemming from our victory in WW2 in the past. It kept us prosperous (which doesn't mean that certain groups within the country were, but as a whole we had good roads, schools, healthcare, etc.). We did not have starvation or civil war, etc. In a competitive world we need to find ways to keep our relative prosperity and stability. |
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Hey everyone, in 1950, the average new home was 983 square feet. Most Americans lived in a one bathroom house. About 1/3 of homes still did not have indoor plumbing in 1950.
Just so you know! |
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America was much better before the rampant acceptance of obscenities in day to day life. Now we have presidential candidates using terms like Harris “effn”, Trump “p**y” Walz “ “g-d damn it”.
Not to mention rampant sexploitation in the entertainment industry. I don’t think Vance at least has publicly cursed, but I could be wrong. Of course there are outliers but statistics show kid’s fare much better in 2 parent households. |