Regretting team choice

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you,PP, that is an excellent post.
I have a gritty and technical DD but she is slender build and not tall. She doesn’t have that soccer look with big leg muscles and low center of gravity. So while she is fast, aggressive, and technical, she just looks like she wouldn’t be that strong.
What I have seen from a current coach is that physicality seems more important than the other traits, even when it’s not effective and the player loses the ball 9 times out of 10. So if that is that coach’s personal preference, there isnt much to be done.
What she really wants to know is: is it just that, or are there other gaps that she doesn’t know about? And that is where the request for feedback is falling flat.
It is a school team, so fortunately short season.

You touched upon a very important point. There is very much an unconscious bias when it comes to smaller players. If a big, strong kid loses a ball three times, it's mentally processed as unlucky or good defense. If a tiny kid loses the ball three times, he/she is not big enough to keep possession, pull them out! Even the coaches who are very comfortable rostering and playing smaller players fall victim to this thinking. To some degree, it's human nature. To use a baseball analogy, Jose Altuve hit more home runs one year than Aaron Judge...we can all guess who managers and pitchers thought was the more intimidating of the two.

This is American soccer at its worst. We prioritize the wrong things (speed and strength) and focus on winning only. Eventually the big, strong, fast kids will get caught up by the rest and their technical ability and soccer IQ won't be up to par. Love coaches who are brave enough to go against the grain and find the small, techy players. You know...like the rest of the world.

We have a toxic coach that has stated to parents that he prefers a bigger kid over a more talented one. He wants kids working hitting and pushing more than touch, dribbling, passing or footwork. He’s kinda looked upon by the whole team as a moron.

My small player left that team. lol

Is your DC happier and playing for a better team?

Yes! Scoring and playing most of the game. After riding the bench and watching team lose all the time. Such better coaching and highly skilled teammates with soccer IQ.

That’s awesome! I know you probably don’t want to out yourself but if u can, please share club. Lots of parents want to know where they can take their small kids to play and be given a fair shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some 5’6” players who are dominating the international game right now?

Messi is 5'7" BTW.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you,PP, that is an excellent post.
I have a gritty and technical DD but she is slender build and not tall. She doesn’t have that soccer look with big leg muscles and low center of gravity. So while she is fast, aggressive, and technical, she just looks like she wouldn’t be that strong.
What I have seen from a current coach is that physicality seems more important than the other traits, even when it’s not effective and the player loses the ball 9 times out of 10. So if that is that coach’s personal preference, there isnt much to be done.
What she really wants to know is: is it just that, or are there other gaps that she doesn’t know about? And that is where the request for feedback is falling flat.
It is a school team, so fortunately short season.

You touched upon a very important point. There is very much an unconscious bias when it comes to smaller players. If a big, strong kid loses a ball three times, it's mentally processed as unlucky or good defense. If a tiny kid loses the ball three times, he/she is not big enough to keep possession, pull them out! Even the coaches who are very comfortable rostering and playing smaller players fall victim to this thinking. To some degree, it's human nature. To use a baseball analogy, Jose Altuve hit more home runs one year than Aaron Judge...we can all guess who managers and pitchers thought was the more intimidating of the two.

This is American soccer at its worst. We prioritize the wrong things (speed and strength) and focus on winning only. Eventually the big, strong, fast kids will get caught up by the rest and their technical ability and soccer IQ won't be up to par. Love coaches who are brave enough to go against the grain and find the small, techy players. You know...like the rest of the world.

Yeah, you're exactly right, just look at Haaland and Ronaldo, they're tiny.

Those two players dismantle the whole statement...well done.

You’re right because the greatest of all time, Maradona Pele and Messi are giants.

Try a little harder next time and not just toss out players you've never seen play. Pele was only small in comparison to playing grown adults when he was a teenager turning pro, he was an average height and build as a kid and as he matured into his later teens and twenties he was an average height and build for his era, he was never considered a small player. Maradona was short, but he's never been considered a small player, he had a thick and muscular build and was also fast as well while being incredibly technical.

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Don't know about this season, but the MLS top five salaries last year were below. Does that mean they dominated? Not necessarily, and I know some will say MLS is weak and that's not global dominance.. But Acosta won the MVP in a league with plenty of size, and I heard Messi is not too bad. (Keep in mind, all men lie an inch or two. These are their listed heights.)
Messi 5'7"
Shaqiri 5'5"
Insigne 5'4"
Acosta 5'3"
Chicarito 5'9"

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know about this season, but the MLS top five salaries last year were below. Does that mean they dominated? Not necessarily, and I know some will say MLS is weak and that's not global dominance.. But Acosta won the MVP in a league with plenty of size, and I heard Messi is not too bad. (Keep in mind, all men lie an inch or two. These are their listed heights.)
Messi 5'7"
Shaqiri 5'5"
Insigne 5'4"
Acosta 5'3"
Chicarito 5'9"

I think PP answered your question definitively. The top four paid players of the highest league of the country you live in are all under 5'6". So apparently it's not a big mans sport. Also probably not a coincidence that none of these guys came out of the US system. All probably would have been kicked to the curb.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know about this season, but the MLS top five salaries last year were below. Does that mean they dominated? Not necessarily, and I know some will say MLS is weak and that's not global dominance.. But Acosta won the MVP in a league with plenty of size, and I heard Messi is not too bad. (Keep in mind, all men lie an inch or two. These are their listed heights.)
Messi 5'7"
Shaqiri 5'5"
Insigne 5'4"
Acosta 5'3"
Chicarito 5'9"

I think PP answered your question definitively. The top four paid players of the highest league of the country you live in are all under 5'6". So apparently it's not a big mans sport. Also probably not a coincidence that none of these guys came out of the US system. All probably would have been kicked to the curb.

Highly unlikely these players would have been "kicked to the curb." You are simply awash in confirmation bias and can't see anything other than what you wish to see.

[Anonymous]

Oh wow, there are like 7 guys! And most of them are on verge of retirement or dead.

[Anonymous]

So the other 95% of players are not short! Thanks

[Anonymous]

Messi is taller than the average human man, 5.68 inches. So grouping him into as a short player actually makes the case that soccer is a tall man’s game.

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Anonymous wrote:Messi is taller than the average human man, 5.68 inches. So grouping him into as a short player actually makes the case that soccer is a tall man’s game.

Did you grow up in the Philippines in the 50's? Because the average man is not 5'6" tall in the world I live in.

[Anonymous]

Average height of Premier League players is under 6’ :

https://jokermag.com/average-height-premier-league-players/

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Anonymous wrote:Average height of Premier League players is under 6’ :

https://jokermag.com/average-height-premier-league-players/

Yes. However, it's 5 feet 11.95 inches. "That’s about 2.85 inches taller than the average American male (5 feet 9.1 inches):"

According to your article, the median height is 6'. And for those complaining about short guys only getting an opportunity if they are world class, Billy Gilmour is 5"5 and Tarilk Lamptey 5'4". Neither are standouts in the league.

Moreover, the English leagues (and non league conference) are viewed as being extremely physical compared to other European leagues. Old school English managers want big, physical players. The only point to this is, it isn't just one place where coaches like bigger players. For those crying about that, stay mad.

[Anonymous]

Argentina 🇦🇷 and Spain 🇪🇸
🏆 🏆 🏆
Lands of the giant players?

Enough foolishness about size

[Anonymous]

This thread lost credibility when the idiot said that Messi's above average size is proof that it's a tall man's sport. Just reaching to fit your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you,PP, that is an excellent post.
I have a gritty and technical DD but she is slender build and not tall. She doesn’t have that soccer look with big leg muscles and low center of gravity. So while she is fast, aggressive, and technical, she just looks like she wouldn’t be that strong.
What I have seen from a current coach is that physicality seems more important than the other traits, even when it’s not effective and the player loses the ball 9 times out of 10. So if that is that coach’s personal preference, there isnt much to be done.
What she really wants to know is: is it just that, or are there other gaps that she doesn’t know about? And that is where the request for feedback is falling flat.
It is a school team, so fortunately short season.

You touched upon a very important point. There is very much an unconscious bias when it comes to smaller players. If a big, strong kid loses a ball three times, it's mentally processed as unlucky or good defense. If a tiny kid loses the ball three times, he/she is not big enough to keep possession, pull them out! Even the coaches who are very comfortable rostering and playing smaller players fall victim to this thinking. To some degree, it's human nature. To use a baseball analogy, Jose Altuve hit more home runs one year than Aaron Judge...we can all guess who managers and pitchers thought was the more intimidating of the two.

This is American soccer at its worst. We prioritize the wrong things (speed and strength) and focus on winning only. Eventually the big, strong, fast kids will get caught up by the rest and their technical ability and soccer IQ won't be up to par. Love coaches who are brave enough to go against the grain and find the small, techy players. You know...like the rest of the world.

Yeah, you're exactly right, just look at Haaland and Ronaldo, they're tiny.

Those two players dismantle the whole statement...well done.

You’re right because the greatest of all time, Maradona Pele and Messi are giants.

You missed the sarcasm