High schoolers can’t write

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

When will people learn that AP classes aren’t always rigorous?

[Anonymous]

Haven't read the entire thread.

But I found this interesting because I have two kids in DCC high schools with an abysmal lack of writing instruction and have wondered if it is better in the "W" schools.

My kids have taken the top English and History classes - AP when available. The first time my kid had to write a paper - like go home, sit at his desk, and write a paper - was the end of junior year after the AP English exam. Had to write a 3 to 5 page paper and had no idea how to do it. All the writing his teachers have them do is timed, in class sample AP exam essays.

It is pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't read the entire thread.

But I found this interesting because I have two kids in DCC high schools with an abysmal lack of writing instruction and have wondered if it is better in the "W" schools.

My kids have taken the top English and History classes - AP when available. The first time my kid had to write a paper - like go home, sit at his desk, and write a paper - was the end of junior year after the AP English exam. Had to write a 3 to 5 page paper and had no idea how to do it. All the writing his teachers have them do is timed, in class sample AP exam essays.

It is pathetic.

Did you read the Bethesda Magazine article about MCPS? It shows the so called W schools aren’t all they’re cracked up to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

My daughter in in AP Lang now and I'm looking forward to the writing instruction!

Hate to break it to you but my kid at Wheaton got next to no writing instruction in AP Lang. All they did was timed sample AP exam essays in class. Once the AP exam was over, she had to write a 3 to 5 page paper. Her first paper ever. She had no idea how to write it.

I wish we could afford private.

[Anonymous]

I had two employees who graduated from Maryland high schools who are illiterate. I asked one of them, a supervisor managing 10 people, to write a recommendation letter. It was embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

My daughter in in AP Lang now and I'm looking forward to the writing instruction!

Hate to break it to you but my kid at Wheaton got next to no writing instruction in AP Lang. All they did was timed sample AP exam essays in class. Once the AP exam was over, she had to write a 3 to 5 page paper. Her first paper ever. She had no idea how to write it.

I wish we could afford private.

If you’re open to Catholic diocese, it’s relatively affordable.

[Anonymous]

And I’ll add that for those with ES level kids: Montessori schools tend to be cheaper than mainstream private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

When will people learn that AP classes aren’t always rigorous?

Right! When they are open to all for equity purposes, you have students in them who don't belong there. As annoying as it was, my 2nd son's Catholic HS limited APs. You have to have an A in a previous honors course to even be considered for an AP class the following year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

When will people learn that AP classes aren’t always rigorous?

Right! When they are open to all for equity purposes, you have students in them who don't belong there. As annoying as it was, my 2nd son's Catholic HS limited APs. You have to have an A in a previous honors course to even be considered for an AP class the following year.

That’s how it should be. At my high school, there were prereqs for all AP classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

When will people learn that AP classes aren’t always rigorous?

Umm, it's not? Then what is the purpose of that designation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

When will people learn that AP classes aren’t always rigorous?

Umm, it's not? Then what is the purpose of that designation?

Ask MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Parents refuse to raise their own kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents refuse to raise their own kids.

Newsflash: it isn’t up to parents to provide 100% of the kid’s education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.

I wish this were true. My kid took AP Lang and the writing assignments that he got A’s on was riddled with grammatical errors and he wasn’t dinged or corrected on it. MCPS does not care to teach grammar or writing structure as a philosophical choice.

This is surprising. This is what we were counting on.

When will people learn that AP classes aren’t always rigorous?

Right! When they are open to all for equity purposes, you have students in them who don't belong there. As annoying as it was, my 2nd son's Catholic HS limited APs. You have to have an A in a previous honors course to even be considered for an AP class the following year.

At my DD's Catholic HS, you have to have a B+ to qualify for an AP class. Are you saying that MCPS will allow any student to take an AP class? That doesn't sound right. I thought you had to at least have been in honors classes before.