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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

I guess I need to join APE. I'm a non-APE parent who wants more than a "good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management." I want a ban on cell phone use from beginning bell to ending bell with the appropriate medically NECESSARY exceptions that is ENFORCED consistently from class to class, teacher to teacher, school to school. That means, I want teachers to teach without a student needing a cell phone to complete the work or follow along. That means, I don't want students rushing to check phones and text each other as they're maneuvering through crowded hallways to get to their next classes hopefully on time and not disrupting others' learning by being late or having to wait for them to finish their text and turn off their phone and put it away. That means I want students to develop some real social skills and interact with each other face-to-face during lunch, not through their phones.

+1. Not APE, but fully agree.

+2 Another non-APE, totally agree. Students are missing out on valuable time by spending passing and lunch periods with their heads in their phones. Other than a legitimate medical need, students do NOT need phones at school.

So why not take YOUR kid's phone away? Have you tried that? Why are you expecting this to fall on the rest of us?

Because it's about the entire school culture. Why can't your student interact with classmates without a phone in hand?

My student can and does. Why is a ban required for that? She is already following the rules without issue. If a kid is not, they can be punished under the current rules. Sounds like you are worried about YOUR kid's social skills and you should work on that. Mine is regularly complimented on hers from adults she both does and does not know.

Okay, you and your kids can do whatever you want. My kids and the other kids in our school will now have school rules banning phones from first bell to last bell and my kids and their classmates will abide by that or get in trouble.

Are your kids not currently abiding by the rule? Phones are already not allowed in class.

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

I guess I need to join APE. I'm a non-APE parent who wants more than a "good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management." I want a ban on cell phone use from beginning bell to ending bell with the appropriate medically NECESSARY exceptions that is ENFORCED consistently from class to class, teacher to teacher, school to school. That means, I want teachers to teach without a student needing a cell phone to complete the work or follow along. That means, I don't want students rushing to check phones and text each other as they're maneuvering through crowded hallways to get to their next classes hopefully on time and not disrupting others' learning by being late or having to wait for them to finish their text and turn off their phone and put it away. That means I want students to develop some real social skills and interact with each other face-to-face during lunch, not through their phones.

+1. Not APE, but fully agree.

+2 Another non-APE, totally agree. Students are missing out on valuable time by spending passing and lunch periods with their heads in their phones. Other than a legitimate medical need, students do NOT need phones at school.

So why not take YOUR kid's phone away? Have you tried that? Why are you expecting this to fall on the rest of us?

Because it's about the entire school culture. Why can't your student interact with classmates without a phone in hand?

My student can and does. Why is a ban required for that? She is already following the rules without issue. If a kid is not, they can be punished under the current rules. Sounds like you are worried about YOUR kid's social skills and you should work on that. Mine is regularly complimented on hers from adults she both does and does not know.

Okay, you and your kids can do whatever you want. My kids and the other kids in our school will now have school rules banning phones from first bell to last bell and my kids and their classmates will abide by that or get in trouble.

Are your kids not currently abiding by the rule? Phones are already not allowed in class.

Currently, phones are allowed at lunch and during passing periods. In January, they will not be allowed. No more zombie lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

I guess I need to join APE. I'm a non-APE parent who wants more than a "good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management." I want a ban on cell phone use from beginning bell to ending bell with the appropriate medically NECESSARY exceptions that is ENFORCED consistently from class to class, teacher to teacher, school to school. That means, I want teachers to teach without a student needing a cell phone to complete the work or follow along. That means, I don't want students rushing to check phones and text each other as they're maneuvering through crowded hallways to get to their next classes hopefully on time and not disrupting others' learning by being late or having to wait for them to finish their text and turn off their phone and put it away. That means I want students to develop some real social skills and interact with each other face-to-face during lunch, not through their phones.

+1. Not APE, but fully agree.

+2 Another non-APE, totally agree. Students are missing out on valuable time by spending passing and lunch periods with their heads in their phones. Other than a legitimate medical need, students do NOT need phones at school.

So why not take YOUR kid's phone away? Have you tried that? Why are you expecting this to fall on the rest of us?

Because it's about the entire school culture. Why can't your student interact with classmates without a phone in hand?

My student can and does. Why is a ban required for that? She is already following the rules without issue. If a kid is not, they can be punished under the current rules. Sounds like you are worried about YOUR kid's social skills and you should work on that. Mine is regularly complimented on hers from adults she both does and does not know.

Okay, you and your kids can do whatever you want. My kids and the other kids in our school will now have school rules banning phones from first bell to last bell and my kids and their classmates will abide by that or get in trouble.

Are your kids not currently abiding by the rule? Phones are already not allowed in class.

Hahahaha how funny!

Oh, were you being serious?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

I guess I need to join APE. I'm a non-APE parent who wants more than a "good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management." I want a ban on cell phone use from beginning bell to ending bell with the appropriate medically NECESSARY exceptions that is ENFORCED consistently from class to class, teacher to teacher, school to school. That means, I want teachers to teach without a student needing a cell phone to complete the work or follow along. That means, I don't want students rushing to check phones and text each other as they're maneuvering through crowded hallways to get to their next classes hopefully on time and not disrupting others' learning by being late or having to wait for them to finish their text and turn off their phone and put it away. That means I want students to develop some real social skills and interact with each other face-to-face during lunch, not through their phones.

+1. Not APE, but fully agree.

+2 Another non-APE, totally agree. Students are missing out on valuable time by spending passing and lunch periods with their heads in their phones. Other than a legitimate medical need, students do NOT need phones at school.

So why not take YOUR kid's phone away? Have you tried that? Why are you expecting this to fall on the rest of us?

Because it's about the entire school culture. Why can't your student interact with classmates without a phone in hand?

My student can and does. Why is a ban required for that? She is already following the rules without issue. If a kid is not, they can be punished under the current rules. Sounds like you are worried about YOUR kid's social skills and you should work on that. Mine is regularly complimented on hers from adults she both does and does not know.

Okay, you and your kids can do whatever you want. My kids and the other kids in our school will now have school rules banning phones from first bell to last bell and my kids and their classmates will abide by that or get in trouble.

Are your kids not currently abiding by the rule? Phones are already not allowed in class.

Currently, phones are allowed at lunch and during passing periods. In January, they will not be allowed. No more zombie lunch.

Your kid becomes a zombie at lunch! How awful for you! I would definitely have that checked out.

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Anonymous wrote:APE derangement is so insane. Get over it. APS isn't doing this because APE wants it or Youngkin asked schools to do it. Teachers want it, entire countries, and Blue states are banning them. Away for the day is good for kids. Period.

Youngkin wants a total ban. APE wants a total ban. Most teachers and parents not APE want a good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management.

Most kids use phones responsibly, outside of the classroom. The ones who won't shouldn't ruin it for the rest of them.

I guess I need to join APE. I'm a non-APE parent who wants more than a "good thought out policy that will disallow phones during instructional time minus those who need it for health management." I want a ban on cell phone use from beginning bell to ending bell with the appropriate medically NECESSARY exceptions that is ENFORCED consistently from class to class, teacher to teacher, school to school. That means, I want teachers to teach without a student needing a cell phone to complete the work or follow along. That means, I don't want students rushing to check phones and text each other as they're maneuvering through crowded hallways to get to their next classes hopefully on time and not disrupting others' learning by being late or having to wait for them to finish their text and turn off their phone and put it away. That means I want students to develop some real social skills and interact with each other face-to-face during lunch, not through their phones.

+1. Not APE, but fully agree.

+2 Another non-APE, totally agree. Students are missing out on valuable time by spending passing and lunch periods with their heads in their phones. Other than a legitimate medical need, students do NOT need phones at school.

So why not take YOUR kid's phone away? Have you tried that? Why are you expecting this to fall on the rest of us?

Because it's about the entire school culture. Why can't your student interact with classmates without a phone in hand?

My student can and does. Why is a ban required for that? She is already following the rules without issue. If a kid is not, they can be punished under the current rules. Sounds like you are worried about YOUR kid's social skills and you should work on that. Mine is regularly complimented on hers from adults she both does and does not know.

Okay, you and your kids can do whatever you want. My kids and the other kids in our school will now have school rules banning phones from first bell to last bell and my kids and their classmates will abide by that or get in trouble.

Are your kids not currently abiding by the rule? Phones are already not allowed in class.

Hahahaha how funny!

Oh, were you being serious?

So your kid is going to magically follow the new rule but ignores the current rule? Interesting. Why not just follow the current one?

[Anonymous]

Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

It is only because on this forum, people wrongfully associate APE with being right leaning or conservative, and APE has publicly indicated support for reasonable cell phone restrictions in schools.

The posters on this forum who malign political orientation with certain subject matter areas do so in a way that is narrow minded and uninformed, but, they will scream it through their caps locked keyboard til the cows come home.

We are a left leaning family politically, supported kids getting back in school sooner than APS facilitated their return, and are 100% interested in a bell to bell ban. Oh, and the grandmas on both sides of their families were public school employees to boot--has anyone's head exploded yet? I guess DCUM can only operate in ways that narrowly confines and stereotypes people according to if they do or do not agree with that poster's own individual value system. In sum, it is dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

They are very anxious about not being able to reach their child 24/7 at a moments notice. Various other reasons are given but it comes down to parental anxiety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

They are very anxious about not being able to reach their child 24/7 at a moments notice. Various other reasons are given but it comes down to parental anxiety.

I am anti-ban and don't talk or text with my children during the day. The real parental anxiety is that you haven't taught your kids how to use their phone responsibly, yet somehow you give it to them anyway...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

They are very anxious about not being able to reach their child 24/7 at a moments notice. Various other reasons are given but it comes down to parental anxiety.

I am anti-ban and don't talk or text with my children during the day. The real parental anxiety is that you haven't taught your kids how to use their phone responsibly, yet somehow you give it to them anyway...

And your reason for them needing cell phones...?

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

They are very anxious about not being able to reach their child 24/7 at a moments notice. Various other reasons are given but it comes down to parental anxiety.

I am anti-ban and don't talk or text with my children during the day. The real parental anxiety is that you haven't taught your kids how to use their phone responsibly, yet somehow you give it to them anyway...

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

They are very anxious about not being able to reach their child 24/7 at a moments notice. Various other reasons are given but it comes down to parental anxiety.

I am anti-ban and don't talk or text with my children during the day. The real parental anxiety is that you haven't taught your kids how to use their phone responsibly, yet somehow you give it to them anyway...

And your reason for them needing cell phones...?

I see no reason for them not to have their phones. Their grades and social skills are excellent and its not been an issue for years. There is no reason to take their phones away because other kids can't handle it. It feels punitive to them and that they are not trusted when they have done nothing wrong. Punish the kids breaking the (already existing) rules about phone use at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Its fascinating to me how angry the pro-phone group is. They are claiming everyone who wants phones out of schools are MAGA or whatever.

First off, we are a very liberal family, and we are 100% with no phones in school.

I still haven't heard why kids need their phones in school, just screeds about how its punishment not to have them or why we can't police our own kids.

That's the thing. We can police our own kids, mine are very mindful of the phone (i screentime them and see their usage during the day) -- but half the kids in the school are checked out on their phone, and it makes it so you have to go on your phone or you look like some weirdo trying to make friends IRL. How quaint. Its a culture now where everyone is ignoring each other and on their phones, to do otherwise flirts with social catastrophe.

If we are letting kids have phones all day in school, why not let them have Nintendos, DVD players, lego sets, or whatever. Everything has a time and place, and school is for focused learning -- and the attention stealing of a phone, which has been shown to be more enthralling then using a laptop, needs to be halted.

One thing of note, all the top private schools have been banning phones to a much larger degree, often all day long. And they have a much easier time monitoring in class violations because of much smaller classes and the real threat of expulsion -- and yet they still do widespread bans. They know their students performance will drop if they let them become 'zombies' and that is their top priority.

I also think it’s funny how no phones is now being considered some MAGA. I always associate no phones/low tech with the liberal , granola type parents

Granola, parent here, and I’m still trying to understand why people are so adamant having phones in school? Every time I ask, I just get insulted rather than an answer

They are very anxious about not being able to reach their child 24/7 at a moments notice. Various other reasons are given but it comes down to parental anxiety.

I am anti-ban and don't talk or text with my children during the day. The real parental anxiety is that you haven't taught your kids how to use their phone responsibly, yet somehow you give it to them anyway...

I don't think that teens are known for their track record in making wise decisions. Those brains are still forming. Sometimes adults have to both set and enforce the rules. Some might even call this parenting!