Who is WASP (Williams, Amherst, Swat, Pomona) for?

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Agree safety schools

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Students

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

Wow - such insecurity on display!

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Anonymous wrote:Safety schools for Ivy students. I don't understand the purpose of the liberal arts colleges, other than this purpose-ivy league rejects, who need a separate system to show off how intelligent they are, while signaling an embarrassing, crippling self-esteem issue.

tremendous post - no one chooses Williams over an ivy, even cornell. The pretentiousness at Williams is overwhelming- big big chip on everyone’s shoulder about how it’s just as good as ivy. DC made it halfway thru tour, and we left. Wound up at Vandy and luving life -

But many many people do chose top LACs over ivies? Definitely more representative by percentage of pop than Vandy lmao.

Many, many? That isn’t even possible given how few kids actually attend the four lacs under discussion.

Many for their populations, sure. Do you need a certain quota for it to be significant enough for you or what? It just seems really weird to pose that top LACs are ivy reject schools to then bring up and boost an alternative ivy reject school. DP.

let me put it a different way - no one on earth has every uttered the following phrase “I turned down Williams for *** ivy” - and do you know why? because kids who actually choose to attend ivies never see Williams as an alternative, and never struggled with that decision. Same can’t be said for 90%+ Williams undergrads. Every athlete - which makes up between 35%-40% of the population at Williams - would have attended an ivy if they were good enough and recruited by and offered a spot by an ivy coach - that’s just a fact

But it’s literally not a fact.

I know right?
It depends on the ivy.
I don't think there are a lot of kids at WASP that wouldn't prefer to go to Yale or Princeton. But I can see some of them picking WASP over Cornell. Cornell is a huge school.

Not everyone is obsessed with Harvard.

WASP schools are for kids who want to be part of a friendly, collaborative community without a sink- or- swim- ethos, club gatekeeping, difficulty accessing professors etc. They are willing to give up more famous brand names (my HYP legacy kid wasn't interested in my alma mater for these reasons) and even some research opportunities to have a happier college experience that sets them up extraordinarily well for success in graduate school. Small, semi-rural or rural LACs are not for all kids, for sure, but my perfect stats kid is content, challenged, and feels the world is their oyster at their ED choice.

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This discussion is the epitome of the narcissism of small differences. All four are quite similar; the differences are trivial compared to the similarities.

And all have a lot of similarities with other very selective schools, like Ivies. Compared to, say, U Kansas, every school mentioned is functionally identical.

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Anonymous wrote:This discussion is the epitome of the narcissism of small differences. All four are quite similar; the differences are trivial compared to the similarities.

And all have a lot of similarities with other very selective schools, like Ivies. Compared to, say, U Kansas, every school mentioned is functionally identical.

Completely agree they are functionally identical.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree safety schools

The delusion runs strong in this one

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The delusion runs strong in this one

Right, safety schools with single digit acceptance rates. Very much like, hmm, Ivy(+) schools.

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Wild that this needs an acronym.

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Who cares? These are tiny schools with limited impact.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? These are tiny schools with limited impact.

Not when it comes to grad school admissions, for which the majority are planning.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? These are tiny schools with limited impact.

Not when it comes to grad school admissions, for which the majority are planning.

At least for law school, where you went to undergrad is of almost no importance beyond your ability to get sincere and personalized letters of recommendation. My understanding is that it’s the same for med school. And I say this as a WASP alum.

My understanding for doctoral programs is that research experience is key. As long as you go somewhere that prioritizes research experience for undergrads, then you have what you need for doctoral programs. I know less about this than law and med school.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? These are tiny schools with limited impact.

Iykyk and you most definitely do not know.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? These are tiny schools with limited impact.

Not when it comes to grad school admissions, for which the majority are planning.

At least for law school, where you went to undergrad is of almost no importance beyond your ability to get sincere and personalized letters of recommendation. My understanding is that it’s the same for med school. And I say this as a WASP alum.

My understanding for doctoral programs is that research experience is key. As long as you go somewhere that prioritizes research experience for undergrads, then you have what you need for doctoral programs. I know less about this than law and med school.

Any high-achieving SLAC student can get into a top grad school, whether professional or doctoral.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? These are tiny schools with limited impact.

Not when it comes to grad school admissions, for which the majority are planning.

At least for law school, where you went to undergrad is of almost no importance beyond your ability to get sincere and personalized letters of recommendation. My understanding is that it’s the same for med school. And I say this as a WASP alum.

My understanding for doctoral programs is that research experience is key. As long as you go somewhere that prioritizes research experience for undergrads, then you have what you need for doctoral programs. I know less about this than law and med school.

I believe that you are sincere but everything that you mentioned is incorrect, especially for top grad, med, law schools.