Nobody talks about Biden anymore

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There was a Fronine special the other night about Joe Biden. Usually they do a great job and sorry I missed it. Did anyone here watch?


The show on Frontline was good. It was a puff piece but a well done puff piece.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:(1)Can Harris thread the needle on immigration and the Middle East if Biden is mentioned?

(2)If Biden is truly incapable of continuing and the powers that be do not invoke the amendment to remove him from office for health reasons, will that failure fall on her? Why isn’t anyone talking about Biden and the ME situation that seems to be imploding.


1. Harris has already declared that she’ll push the bipartisan immigration reform bill through. All she has to do is keep reminding voters that republicans blocked it on Trump’s order. She’ll remind voters that Biden, who expected this bill to pass, issued a proclamation on June 4 under Immigration and Nationality Act sections 212(f) and 215(a) suspending entry of noncitizens who cross the Southern border into the United States unlawfully.

2. There is no reason to remove Biden for health reasons. He did what he had to do and made it very clear he will finish his term. He’s already executive ordering the crap out of everything he can. No one is going to invoke the amendment. Johnson will try, but lose. Please read up on the 25th amendment. Biden, his closest advisor and chief strategist + Harris were his only trusted trio in the 24 hour period when his letter to step down and finish his term was drafted and released to the public. You should understand how stealth his timing was. It was legally sound, set Harris up with delegates, campaign funds, and has crippled Trump’s strategy.



1. All Republicans have to do is to remind voters that Kamala Harris was the border czar and for 3 1/2 years the border has been in crisis and this administration has done nothing to prevent the entry of millions of illegal aliens. Then, there is the whole scandal with the CHNV parole program with all the fraud that this administration was illegally operating..... that is another reminder of how bad she has been for immigration. And, having Walz as her #2 does not help with her immigration problems. You know... the whole "give the illegals a ladder" thing and the sanctuary state policy.

So, no - she cannot escape the deplorable record on immigration.

2. She has failed when it comes to Biden and his cognitive decline. We have known for months there were issues. But, she has repeatedly said he was fine, and sharp and that there was no problem. She was either (a) lying or (b) too clueless to recognize the decline. Either one is bad.

And, the ME is a dumpster fire thanks, in part, to Biden, et al.


Are you a clown? Seriously. SHE WAS NOT THE BORDER CZAR! LOOK AT SOMETHING OTHER THAN FOX OR BREITBART!

Biden was negotiating the release of hostages while ill with Covid an hour before he released his statement that he wouldn't be running. Did you see the hot mess express coming to you live from Mar-A-Lardo today? You have no right to speak about cognitive decline.

Seriously, I think you people need your heads examined.


Screaming at and insulting voters is usually not a great way to bring them over to your point of view. Including the undecided bystanders watching you scream at voters.

You’re also arguing in bad faith. Just like the president’s actual mental fitness, the truth is irrelevant: nearly all of the American public and a fair chunk of the rest of the world heard “border czar” when her role was announced, and that’s what they believe. You have to know that.


I posted the link to the Time magazine article upthread, which I'm sure no one is going to bother to read. So I'll excerpt one relevant bit of information.

"In fact, Harris was never put in charge of the border or immigration policy. Nor was she involved in overseeing law-enforcement efforts or guiding the federal response to the crisis. Her mandate was much narrower: to focus on examining and improving the underlying conditions in the Northern Triangle of Central America—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—which has been racked by decades of poverty, war, chronic violence, and political instability. The strategy relied on allocating billions for economic programs and stimulating private-sector investment in the region in hopes that these programs would ultimately lead fewer migrants to make the dangerous journey north."

https://time.com/7001817/kamala-harris-immigration/


Just to point out that there are fewer migrants coming from El Salvador, Guatemal, and Honduras than 20 years ago when El Salvador was in the throes of a civil war. Migrants from many other countries are using the southern border as a quick entry to the US. The NYT had a good piece last week about an Asian family who came through the Southern border because it was the best way to get into the country. Clearly the Biden White House does not understand who is entering the country or they would have broadened Harris's mandate.
Anonymous
Pelosi is talking about him:

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:(1)Can Harris thread the needle on immigration and the Middle East if Biden is mentioned?

(2)If Biden is truly incapable of continuing and the powers that be do not invoke the amendment to remove him from office for health reasons, will that failure fall on her? Why isn’t anyone talking about Biden and the ME situation that seems to be imploding.


1. Harris has already declared that she’ll push the bipartisan immigration reform bill through. All she has to do is keep reminding voters that republicans blocked it on Trump’s order. She’ll remind voters that Biden, who expected this bill to pass, issued a proclamation on June 4 under Immigration and Nationality Act sections 212(f) and 215(a) suspending entry of noncitizens who cross the Southern border into the United States unlawfully.

2. There is no reason to remove Biden for health reasons. He did what he had to do and made it very clear he will finish his term. He’s already executive ordering the crap out of everything he can. No one is going to invoke the amendment. Johnson will try, but lose. Please read up on the 25th amendment. Biden, his closest advisor and chief strategist + Harris were his only trusted trio in the 24 hour period when his letter to step down and finish his term was drafted and released to the public. You should understand how stealth his timing was. It was legally sound, set Harris up with delegates, campaign funds, and has crippled Trump’s strategy.



1. All Republicans have to do is to remind voters that Kamala Harris was the border czar and for 3 1/2 years the border has been in crisis and this administration has done nothing to prevent the entry of millions of illegal aliens. Then, there is the whole scandal with the CHNV parole program with all the fraud that this administration was illegally operating..... that is another reminder of how bad she has been for immigration. And, having Walz as her #2 does not help with her immigration problems. You know... the whole "give the illegals a ladder" thing and the sanctuary state policy.

So, no - she cannot escape the deplorable record on immigration.

2. She has failed when it comes to Biden and his cognitive decline. We have known for months there were issues. But, she has repeatedly said he was fine, and sharp and that there was no problem. She was either (a) lying or (b) too clueless to recognize the decline. Either one is bad.

And, the ME is a dumpster fire thanks, in part, to Biden, et al.


Are you a clown? Seriously. SHE WAS NOT THE BORDER CZAR! LOOK AT SOMETHING OTHER THAN FOX OR BREITBART!

Biden was negotiating the release of hostages while ill with Covid an hour before he released his statement that he wouldn't be running. Did you see the hot mess express coming to you live from Mar-A-Lardo today? You have no right to speak about cognitive decline.

Seriously, I think you people need your heads examined.


Screaming at and insulting voters is usually not a great way to bring them over to your point of view. Including the undecided bystanders watching you scream at voters.

You’re also arguing in bad faith. Just like the president’s actual mental fitness, the truth is irrelevant: nearly all of the American public and a fair chunk of the rest of the world heard “border czar” when her role was announced, and that’s what they believe. You have to know that.


I posted the link to the Time magazine article upthread, which I'm sure no one is going to bother to read. So I'll excerpt one relevant bit of information.

"In fact, Harris was never put in charge of the border or immigration policy. Nor was she involved in overseeing law-enforcement efforts or guiding the federal response to the crisis. Her mandate was much narrower: to focus on examining and improving the underlying conditions in the Northern Triangle of Central America—El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras—which has been racked by decades of poverty, war, chronic violence, and political instability. The strategy relied on allocating billions for economic programs and stimulating private-sector investment in the region in hopes that these programs would ultimately lead fewer migrants to make the dangerous journey north."

https://time.com/7001817/kamala-harris-immigration/


Just to point out that there are fewer migrants coming from El Salvador, Guatemal, and Honduras than 20 years ago when El Salvador was in the throes of a civil war. Migrants from many other countries are using the southern border as a quick entry to the US. The NYT had a good piece last week about an Asian family who came through the Southern border because it was the best way to get into the country. Clearly the Biden White House does not understand who is entering the country or they would have broadened Harris's mandate.


Not according to the migration policy institute.

20 years ago the population was 2 million. Now it's 3.8 million.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/central-american-immigrants-united-states-2021


"Much of the recent migration has been irregular. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) encountered nationals of the four largest Central American sending countries (El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua) at the U.S.-Mexico border 109,100 times in fiscal year (FY) 2020, a number that increased to about 705,500 in FY 2022. In the first six months of FY 2023, there were about 287,300 border encounters of these nationals. Between October 2019 and March 2023, nationals of these four countries accounted for nearly one-third of all 5.8 million migrant encounters at the southern border."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am upset that Jill disappeared. She was so vocal and so involved but then vanished as soon as Biden was removed. I would expect her campaigning for Kamala and to support her candidacy.


I don’t think Harris wants her help. Harris was handed the candidacy by Biden and has now all but frozen them out of her campaign. No gratitude among politicians, apparently.
Anonymous
Trump still talks about him.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Biden will be the fall guy when Trump wins


Sad but true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am upset that Jill disappeared. She was so vocal and so involved but then vanished as soon as Biden was removed. I would expect her campaigning for Kamala and to support her candidacy.


I don’t think Harris wants her help. Harris was handed the candidacy by Biden and has now all but frozen them out of her campaign. No gratitude among politicians, apparently.


He’s wildly unpopular. If she wants to win, he needs to stay away.
If he cares about the country, over his ego, he will abide.
Also: he’s too old to campaign. He was too old for his campaign. He is still too old to campaign for her.
Anonymous
Biden’s interview with Robert Costa is everything I’ve ever loved about him and more: acting in the best service of his country. A true statesman. History will look upon him favorably for his stepping aside to save our country. Love the pictures of him on the beach and biking! He’s earned a bit of r and r for his work to bring Americans home and for his many days and nights of work over the many years he’s been a public servant. He’ll finish his term strong and then hopefully have many, many more days on the beach and biking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Biden’s interview with Robert Costa is everything I’ve ever loved about him and more: acting in the best service of his country. A true statesman. History will look upon him favorably for his stepping aside to save our country. Love the pictures of him on the beach and biking! He’s earned a bit of r and r for his work to bring Americans home and for his many days and nights of work over the many years he’s been a public servant. He’ll finish his term strong and then hopefully have many, many more days on the beach and biking.


He'll be ranked behind Jimmy Carter.
And, he did NOT step aside. He was forced aside. He was threatened with the 25th amendment if he didn't step down. He had no choice.
And, he is hardly finishing his term strong. One event and 2 phone calls last week is not strong.
Meanwhile, Iran is threatening and high prices are affecting the lives of Americans.
And, we had a base attacked with 6 or 7 service members critically injured. Crickets from Joe and Kamala.
Biden goes to the beach.
Anonymous
If it weren't for him, the attacks on Ukraine and Israel would never have happened. He transmitted weakness from a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan just like he did when he was the only one against killing Bin Laden. He's gotten a lot of people killed and democrats have miscalculated just how much Russia and China have and will take advantage of advertising our weakness.

It's unforgivable.
Anonymous
I like my president strong, silent and drama free. He doesn't need to call attention to himself and whine about crowd size every day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am upset that Jill disappeared. She was so vocal and so involved but then vanished as soon as Biden was removed. I would expect her campaigning for Kamala and to support her candidacy.


I don’t think Harris wants her help. Harris was handed the candidacy by Biden and has now all but frozen them out of her campaign. No gratitude among politicians, apparently.


He’s wildly unpopular. If she wants to win, he needs to stay away.
If he cares about the country, over his ego, he will abide.
Also: he’s too old to campaign. He was too old for his campaign. He is still too old to campaign for her.


He says he is campaigning with her this week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I like my president strong, silent and drama free. He doesn't need to call attention to himself and whine about crowd size every day.


Well. One out of three ain't bad, I guess.
You got "silent." He is very hard to hear when he talks.
post reply Forum Index » Political Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: