Yondr pouch pilot program at some MS

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Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They have outsourced phone management to an expensive external contractor? That's going to end well, I'm sure. When my son was at Cooper 5 years ago, they said if a teacher saw the phone, he would have to give it to the office to hold for the day. It seemed to work until all the teachers started insisting they use them for making videos and taking pictures in class.


I for one think it’s a brilliant idea! If they need to open them during class, they can try one of these methods.





Buy your kids a fishing magnet so they don’t burn down the school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.


What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early


So yes, as we can predict, EVERY parent believes *their* kid isn’t the one for whom the phone is the issue even though, for about 70% of kids it’s a huge issue. Needing to contact your parent to be picked up early after the SOL isn’t an emergency. They could - omg- just stay at school if they can’t text you the second they’re bored and be escorted home with haste.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I understand the premise but with a school shooting being a real possibility, I want my child to have access to their phone at all times. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the beginning of class and get it when they leave. Seems like a simpler solution.


What is a cell phone going to do to help your student during a school shooting? Cell phones only complicate crises when students flood the community with false information through texts and social media.


This is a red herring excuse and they know it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early


So yes, as we can predict, EVERY parent believes *their* kid isn’t the one for whom the phone is the issue even though, for about 70% of kids it’s a huge issue. Needing to contact your parent to be picked up early after the SOL isn’t an emergency. They could - omg- just stay at school if they can’t text you the second they’re bored and be escorted home with haste.


Sorry my kid doesn't like sitting bored in class for two weeks while teachers struggle to teacher kids who don't care a years worth of material. If the teachers would bother to teach, we'd make them stay. Since the teachers prefer to stick kids on lexia or tell them to read a book once they complete lexia, we feel no need for them to be present
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early


So yes, as we can predict, EVERY parent believes *their* kid isn’t the one for whom the phone is the issue even though, for about 70% of kids it’s a huge issue. Needing to contact your parent to be picked up early after the SOL isn’t an emergency. They could - omg- just stay at school if they can’t text you the second they’re bored and be escorted home with haste.


Sorry my kid doesn't like sitting bored in class for two weeks while teachers struggle to teacher kids who don't care a years worth of material. If the teachers would bother to teach, we'd make them stay. Since the teachers prefer to stick kids on lexia or tell them to read a book once they complete lexia, we feel no need for them to be present


Blah blah blah

You’re just as much of baby as the kids are about their phones.
Anonymous
It's going to be like going to a Jack White or Chris Rock show. I think they've used pouches, too. These pouches have been a thing for comedians testing out new material for awhile now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early


So yes, as we can predict, EVERY parent believes *their* kid isn’t the one for whom the phone is the issue even though, for about 70% of kids it’s a huge issue. Needing to contact your parent to be picked up early after the SOL isn’t an emergency. They could - omg- just stay at school if they can’t text you the second they’re bored and be escorted home with haste.


Sorry my kid doesn't like sitting bored in class for two weeks while teachers struggle to teacher kids who don't care a years worth of material. If the teachers would bother to teach, we'd make them stay. Since the teachers prefer to stick kids on lexia or tell them to read a book once they complete lexia, we feel no need for them to be present


This is crazy, entitled behaviour and you are going to raise crazy, entitled kids. I always finished tests first. That's why I brought a book to read while the others finished. No need to rush home to mommy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How much is this little experiment costing?


+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early


So yes, as we can predict, EVERY parent believes *their* kid isn’t the one for whom the phone is the issue even though, for about 70% of kids it’s a huge issue. Needing to contact your parent to be picked up early after the SOL isn’t an emergency. They could - omg- just stay at school if they can’t text you the second they’re bored and be escorted home with haste.


Sorry my kid doesn't like sitting bored in class for two weeks while teachers struggle to teacher kids who don't care a years worth of material. If the teachers would bother to teach, we'd make them stay. Since the teachers prefer to stick kids on lexia or tell them to read a book once they complete lexia, we feel no need for them to be present


This is crazy, entitled behaviour and you are going to raise crazy, entitled kids. I always finished tests first. That's why I brought a book to read while the others finished. No need to rush home to mommy.



It’s not about the day of the test, it’s about the week(s) of remediation that follows.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should’ve just expelled the ones that couldn’t follow the rules last year instead of punishing an entire school and their families.



It isn’t punishment. All the kids benefit from this. Their mood, mental health, focus, efficacy, all improve when they don’t have easy access to their phones. The phone’s PHYSICAL PRESENCE increases anxiety, decreases ability to focus and is a distraction. When NOBODY has their phone, the kids talk to each other more. They look eachother in the face and engage. They laugh!! They can work in groups because everyone has some idea of what’s going on because 50% of the class wasn’t zoned out - that’s really hard right now because the kids paying attention don’t want to drag along the kids who weren’t, and it means they don’t collaborate as often as they need to.

Our kids deserve a world where they are not tied to the device. Having everyone be disconnected from them in a learning environment is a benefit, not a punishment.


Of course it’s a punishment. My kid doesn’t play with their cell phone in class. They have it available for emergencies only, and they know to leave class if they need to call me. They won’t be using a pouch that they can’t open. If they need access to me they will have it. I’m not punishing my child because other people’s kids don’t know how to act. If there was a student pay phone to use at the school they wouldn’t need a cell phone.


Curious, under what circumstance's do you think it is okay for a student to leave class to use their cell phone to call a parent? How often is it acceptable to do so?


Shouldn’t be more than a few times a year- if it can wait until they get home it’s not an emergency. I also expect them to wait between classes but if it’s an actual emergency they can contact me anytime.

I’d actually be ok with no phones in class if they had a magnet in each room to unlock when they leave class, if needed, but these people want no cell phone all day long with no way to unlock in class. Unacceptable.



DP, call never. Text, maybe once a month. More frequently after SOLs when the want to be picked up early


So yes, as we can predict, EVERY parent believes *their* kid isn’t the one for whom the phone is the issue even though, for about 70% of kids it’s a huge issue. Needing to contact your parent to be picked up early after the SOL isn’t an emergency. They could - omg- just stay at school if they can’t text you the second they’re bored and be escorted home with haste.


Sorry my kid doesn't like sitting bored in class for two weeks while teachers struggle to teacher kids who don't care a years worth of material. If the teachers would bother to teach, we'd make them stay. Since the teachers prefer to stick kids on lexia or tell them to read a book once they complete lexia, we feel no need for them to be present


Blah blah blah

You’re just as much of baby as the kids are about their phones.


This is hilarious. My kids need their phones for emergencies. Emergencies include being bored because there is not a lot of learning in May. :roll:
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How much is this little experiment costing?


+1


I think I hear about $25 per pouch!!
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