Wall Street Placement 2024 update

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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


So true.
That person does t know how the recruiting process works. Sure 1-2 kids from Gt and Purdue, Penn state etc may make it through to the summer pipeline, but it’s hard to claw your way there.
Very easy to do it at a lower Ivy or even CMC where there’s a strict process and college name opens the door (yes, kid has to prove self at interview).

Kids from most flagships won’t even get an interview. But good news is they can get all sorts of back office jobs.

Yes my Emory DC, got back office as a health major with a 3.1. Only the schools listed could do that. Tufts, Gatech and the rest need higher GPAs and econ/business to do the same.


Yikes. Back office with an Emory degree?
Where?
In southeast?

That's very good. A UCLA grad would need to be at least accounting to get the same type of job. Back office at a big bank is better than Big4.
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


Except for the tech jobs in AI, right?

If you believe that, then this entire thread is moot because AI is going to kill the Wall Street analyst job. See an excerpt from an article below from the New York Times from April:

The Worst Part of a Wall Street Career May Be Coming to an End
Artificial intelligence tools can replace much of Wall Street’s entry-level white-collar work, raising tough questions about the future of finance.

Until now. Generative artificial intelligence — the technology upending many industries with its ability to produce and crunch new data — has landed on Wall Street. And investment banks, long inured to cultural change, are rapidly turning into Exhibit A on how the new technology could not only supplement but supplant entire ranks of workers.

The jobs most immediately at risk are those performed by analysts at the bottom rung of the investment banking business, who put in endless hours to learn the building blocks of corporate finance, including the intricacies of mergers, public offerings and bond deals. Now, A.I. can do much of that work speedily and with considerably less whining.

“The structure of these jobs has remained largely unchanged at least for a decade,” said Julia Dhar, head of BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab and a consultant to major banks experimenting with A.I. The inevitable question, as she put it, is “do you need fewer analysts?”
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


What jobs will be alive? Finance?
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


Except for the tech jobs in AI, right?

If you believe that, then this entire thread is moot because AI is going to kill the Wall Street analyst job. See an excerpt from an article below from the New York Times from April:

The Worst Part of a Wall Street Career May Be Coming to an End
Artificial intelligence tools can replace much of Wall Street’s entry-level white-collar work, raising tough questions about the future of finance.

Until now. Generative artificial intelligence — the technology upending many industries with its ability to produce and crunch new data — has landed on Wall Street. And investment banks, long inured to cultural change, are rapidly turning into Exhibit A on how the new technology could not only supplement but supplant entire ranks of workers.

The jobs most immediately at risk are those performed by analysts at the bottom rung of the investment banking business, who put in endless hours to learn the building blocks of corporate finance, including the intricacies of mergers, public offerings and bond deals. Now, A.I. can do much of that work speedily and with considerably less whining.

“The structure of these jobs has remained largely unchanged at least for a decade,” said Julia Dhar, head of BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab and a consultant to major banks experimenting with A.I. The inevitable question, as she put it, is “do you need fewer analysts?”

Finance is regulated if mistakes happen and it's because of AI the bank will lose millions. They won't take that risk, like they will in tech.
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


Except for the tech jobs in AI, right?

If you believe that, then this entire thread is moot because AI is going to kill the Wall Street analyst job. See an excerpt from an article below from the New York Times from April:

The Worst Part of a Wall Street Career May Be Coming to an End
Artificial intelligence tools can replace much of Wall Street’s entry-level white-collar work, raising tough questions about the future of finance.

Until now. Generative artificial intelligence — the technology upending many industries with its ability to produce and crunch new data — has landed on Wall Street. And investment banks, long inured to cultural change, are rapidly turning into Exhibit A on how the new technology could not only supplement but supplant entire ranks of workers.

The jobs most immediately at risk are those performed by analysts at the bottom rung of the investment banking business, who put in endless hours to learn the building blocks of corporate finance, including the intricacies of mergers, public offerings and bond deals. Now, A.I. can do much of that work speedily and with considerably less whining.

“The structure of these jobs has remained largely unchanged at least for a decade,” said Julia Dhar, head of BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab and a consultant to major banks experimenting with A.I. The inevitable question, as she put it, is “do you need fewer analysts?”


Coding is first to go
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


What jobs will be alive? Finance?

Healthcare
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


Except for the tech jobs in AI, right?

If you believe that, then this entire thread is moot because AI is going to kill the Wall Street analyst job. See an excerpt from an article below from the New York Times from April:

The Worst Part of a Wall Street Career May Be Coming to an End
Artificial intelligence tools can replace much of Wall Street’s entry-level white-collar work, raising tough questions about the future of finance.

Until now. Generative artificial intelligence — the technology upending many industries with its ability to produce and crunch new data — has landed on Wall Street. And investment banks, long inured to cultural change, are rapidly turning into Exhibit A on how the new technology could not only supplement but supplant entire ranks of workers.

The jobs most immediately at risk are those performed by analysts at the bottom rung of the investment banking business, who put in endless hours to learn the building blocks of corporate finance, including the intricacies of mergers, public offerings and bond deals. Now, A.I. can do much of that work speedily and with considerably less whining.

“The structure of these jobs has remained largely unchanged at least for a decade,” said Julia Dhar, head of BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab and a consultant to major banks experimenting with A.I. The inevitable question, as she put it, is “do you need fewer analysts?”

Finance is regulated if mistakes happen and it's because of AI the bank will lose millions. They won't take that risk, like they will in tech.


In finance, you just lose money.
In tech with AI, people can die, for example in self-driving.
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


What jobs will be alive? Finance?

Healthcare


Think again. Many first tier doctors like family doctors, allergy doctors, etc. might lose job.

With little bit more of advancement, I would trust AI more than human primary care doctors.
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


What jobs will be alive? Finance?

Healthcare


Think again. Many first tier doctors like family doctors, allergy doctors, etc. might lose job.

With little bit more of advancement, I would trust AI more than human primary care doctors.

That's you, most people do not want AI doctors. And the liability insurance would be insane.
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Anonymous wrote:Which do you think you would have more chance at Wall Street

Business/Econ/CS/Math at NYU

vs

Business/Econ/CS/Math at Emory

Depends if it's Stern or not. Emory is the more prestigious school so for econ, CS, and Math it's Emory. NYU Stern is different so NYU for business.


Another delusional shameless Emory person.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings
Undergrad one only shows for premium, so this is for grad, but not much difference.
NYU Econ: #11
Emory Econ: #53

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16lnder/us_news_2024_ranking_of_best_undergraduate/
Undergrad CS
NYU: #40
Emory #63

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings
Best math
NYU: #2
Emory: Need I say more?

Emory people please wake the F up already


Yet NYU still didn't make the adjusted ranking now did it? NYU grads do not get the same jobs Emory grads do.
Despite being in New York and Emory in Atlanta. Emory grads make more.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Emory%20University
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=New%20York%20University

Emory is also just ranked. NYU boosters need to get over it.


I would love to see them exclude Tisch, the School of Social Work, Steinhardt, and the College of Nursing. NYU would leapfrog up the list. I am certain that *Stern* grads get better jobs than Emory grads.

(Not a big NYU booster here - my son didn't even apply - but well familiar with Stern!)
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


Except for the tech jobs in AI, right?

If you believe that, then this entire thread is moot because AI is going to kill the Wall Street analyst job. See an excerpt from an article below from the New York Times from April:

The Worst Part of a Wall Street Career May Be Coming to an End
Artificial intelligence tools can replace much of Wall Street’s entry-level white-collar work, raising tough questions about the future of finance.

Until now. Generative artificial intelligence — the technology upending many industries with its ability to produce and crunch new data — has landed on Wall Street. And investment banks, long inured to cultural change, are rapidly turning into Exhibit A on how the new technology could not only supplement but supplant entire ranks of workers.

The jobs most immediately at risk are those performed by analysts at the bottom rung of the investment banking business, who put in endless hours to learn the building blocks of corporate finance, including the intricacies of mergers, public offerings and bond deals. Now, A.I. can do much of that work speedily and with considerably less whining.

“The structure of these jobs has remained largely unchanged at least for a decade,” said Julia Dhar, head of BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab and a consultant to major banks experimenting with A.I. The inevitable question, as she put it, is “do you need fewer analysts?”

Finance is regulated if mistakes happen and it's because of AI the bank will lose millions. They won't take that risk, like they will in tech.


You clearly don't understand the work of an investment banking analyst.

Think of all the time you make pitchbooks for an MD that is going to spend a week talking to SV companies trying to convince Intel to acquire Nvidia (actual pitchbook I worked on back in the late 1990s...think of how things may be so much different for Intel right now) or think of a dozen other similar pitchbooks.

AI can assemble all these mindless pitchbooks in 1/1000th the time. Nobody is losing money on these pitchbooks. This isn't trading.

Speaking of trading, AI is used all the time in creating trading algorithms. You need a human to make sure it is correct, but Wall Street is routinely making billions of dollars of daily trades based on computer programs.
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


What jobs will be alive? Finance?

Healthcare


Think again. Many first tier doctors like family doctors, allergy doctors, etc. might lose job.

With little bit more of advancement, I would trust AI more than human primary care doctors.

That's you, most people do not want AI doctors. And the liability insurance would be insane.


WTF are you talking about? Right now, radiologists are using AI to scan for cancers and to interpret other XRays. AI will absolutely reduce the need to have so many radiologists on staff because it actually is more accurate and you will always have some senior radiologist signing-off on the diagnostics.

Any diagnostic doctor will be impacted by AI.

AI makes senior people more productive in so many fields. As a result, you need fewer entry-level people.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is this a goal for so many? These are immoral jobs.


+1. Seems like a good list of schools to avoid.
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Anonymous wrote:My first thought is that Wall Street will hire from any college that has qualified applicants. Useless lists like this just show us where the highest number of smart people who want to work with money are.

My second is that useless lists like this unnecessarily add to the anxiety of teenagers and parents by implying that it matters a whole lot which college you attend if you want certain jobs. It' doesn't.


Wall Street firms don't even recruit at many colleges -- have you heard of target and non-target. I'm sorry, but where you go to college does matter for finance (IB and consulting) jobs.


They recruit where they do because that's where the greatest concentration of smart people with an interest in IB are located. It's efficient. It would be a stupid business decision, though, to refuse to look at applications from qualified applicants who went elsewhere. So yes, you're more likely to see a recruiter on campus at some places vs. others, but it doesn't give you a leg up on people with similar or superior skills from less known colleges.

As I mentioned above, Jamie Dimon (CEO of JP Morgan Chase), went to Tufts. The CEO of Bank of America's investment branch went to Colgate. The CEO of Schwab went to Ohio U. The CEO of Fidelity went to Hobart and William Smith. Vanguard's chief investment officer went to Penn State and is in charge of a team that manages over 7 TRILLION dollars in assets. None of these people are going to let the name on the diploma get in the way of hiring talent.

If they recruited only for smart kids then Tufts, Georgia tech, Northeastern, Pomona etc would have made the list.


Nice job sneaking Northeastern in there.


Northeastern is ranked #6 and #9 per capita for Tech placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

It's also ranked #14 and #12 per capita for Engineering placement.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering






Texh and Engineering doesn't care about prestige


Maybe.
They definitely care about smart kids.


Tech is dying anyway.


Don't tell that to OpenAI, Anthropic and the hundreds of AI companies raking in the VC money right now.


AI is why tech jobs will be dead.


Except for the tech jobs in AI, right?

If you believe that, then this entire thread is moot because AI is going to kill the Wall Street analyst job. See an excerpt from an article below from the New York Times from April:

The Worst Part of a Wall Street Career May Be Coming to an End
Artificial intelligence tools can replace much of Wall Street’s entry-level white-collar work, raising tough questions about the future of finance.

Until now. Generative artificial intelligence — the technology upending many industries with its ability to produce and crunch new data — has landed on Wall Street. And investment banks, long inured to cultural change, are rapidly turning into Exhibit A on how the new technology could not only supplement but supplant entire ranks of workers.

The jobs most immediately at risk are those performed by analysts at the bottom rung of the investment banking business, who put in endless hours to learn the building blocks of corporate finance, including the intricacies of mergers, public offerings and bond deals. Now, A.I. can do much of that work speedily and with considerably less whining.

“The structure of these jobs has remained largely unchanged at least for a decade,” said Julia Dhar, head of BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab and a consultant to major banks experimenting with A.I. The inevitable question, as she put it, is “do you need fewer analysts?”

Finance is regulated if mistakes happen and it's because of AI the bank will lose millions. They won't take that risk, like they will in tech.


Some of Wall Street’s major banks are asking the same question, as they test A.I. tools that can largely replace their armies of analysts by performing in seconds the work that now takes hours, or a whole weekend. The software, being deployed inside banks under code names such as “Socrates,” is likely not only to change the arc of a Wall Street career, but also to essentially nullify the need to hire thousands of new college graduates.

Top executives at Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and other banks are debating how deep they can cut their incoming analyst classes, according to several people involved in the ongoing discussions. Some inside those banks and others have suggested they could cut back on their hiring of junior investment banking analysts by as much as two-thirds, and slash the pay of those they do hire, on the grounds that the jobs won’t be as taxing as before.
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Anonymous wrote:Who wants to work on Wall Street anymore? It used to be the only option besides law or medical school. Now there’s the tech industry. Wall Street is less desirable.

Big Tech is dying.


I guess you don't really track.

We just had NVDIA earning yesterday and it was a blast.
Stock almost jumped 10%



NVIDIA hires from the same companies listed. They go for prestige too. FAANG is dying.


Yep, I know a recent hire. Could have done UMD honors, but went a small private at great expense instead, got an NVIDIA internship while there, risk paid off.

However, it's not just pedigree, the mentorship at these schools grooms a student for these positions.
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