Wall Street Placement 2024 update

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Anonymous wrote:Four years of tuition, room and board at an elite college only to sell your soul when you get out.

you wish
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Anonymous wrote:Which do you think you would have more chance at Wall Street

Business/Econ/CS/Math at NYU

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Business/Econ/CS/Math at Emory

Depends if it's Stern or not. Emory is the more prestigious school so for econ, CS, and Math it's Emory. NYU Stern is different so NYU for business.


Another delusional shameless Emory person.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings
Undergrad one only shows for premium, so this is for grad, but not much difference.
NYU Econ: #11
Emory Econ: #53

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16lnder/us_news_2024_ranking_of_best_undergraduate/
Undergrad CS
NYU: #40
Emory #63

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings
Best math
NYU: #2
Emory: Need I say more?

Emory people please wake the F up already


Yet NYU still didn't make the adjusted ranking now did it? NYU grads do not get the same jobs Emory grads do.
Despite being in New York and Emory in Atlanta. Emory grads make more.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Emory%20University
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=New%20York%20University

Emory is also just ranked. NYU boosters need to get over it.


I would love to see them exclude Tisch, the School of Social Work, Steinhardt, and the College of Nursing. NYU would leapfrog up the list. I am certain that *Stern* grads get better jobs than Emory grads.

(Not a big NYU booster here - my son didn't even apply - but well familiar with Stern!)

Sure but exclude Emory humanities majors too.
If we look at just CS, Emory grads still make more 133k vs 129k. Again most NYU grads stay in the Northeast. Emory is more prestigious get over it.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139658-Emory-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?193900-New-York-University&fos_code=1101&fos_credential=3


So overall seems like peer schools.
Prestige factor is negligible.
It's a matter of personal preference and priorities.

NYU is in New York. Most of the students stay in the northeast. There salary should be 25% higher not 10% lower.


LoL Emory folks were arguing hard that they send more kids to Wallstreet.
So most of the Emory graduates get stuck in GA?

I would avoid the school.

Why can't you admit NYU underperformed. They barely make more than Fordham grads. I'm sorry but a school that swears it's peers woth the T25 should make more than their adjacent school down the street with a 50% acceptance rate.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Fordham%20University
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Anonymous wrote:Which do you think you would have more chance at Wall Street

Business/Econ/CS/Math at NYU

vs

Business/Econ/CS/Math at Emory

Depends if it's Stern or not. Emory is the more prestigious school so for econ, CS, and Math it's Emory. NYU Stern is different so NYU for business.


Another delusional shameless Emory person.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings
Undergrad one only shows for premium, so this is for grad, but not much difference.

NYU Econ: #11
Emory Econ: #53

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16lnder/us_news_2024_ranking_of_best_undergraduate/
Undergrad CS
NYU: #40
Emory #63

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings
Best math
NYU: #2
Emory: Need I say more?

Emory people please wake the F up already


Yet NYU still didn't make the adjusted ranking now did it? NYU grads do not get the same jobs Emory grads do.
Despite being in New York and Emory in Atlanta. Emory grads make more.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Emory%20University
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=New%20York%20University

Emory is also just ranked. NYU boosters need to get over it.


I would love to see them exclude Tisch, the School of Social Work, Steinhardt, and the College of Nursing. NYU would leapfrog up the list. I am certain that *Stern* grads get better jobs than Emory grads.

(Not a big NYU booster here - my son didn't even apply - but well familiar with Stern!)

Sure but exclude Emory humanities majors too.
If we look at just CS, Emory grads still make more 133k vs 129k. Again most NYU grads stay in the Northeast. Emory is more prestigious get over it.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139658-Emory-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?193900-New-York-University&fos_code=1101&fos_credential=3


Prestigious to who? I don’t think anyone is thinking about Emory in the Northeast. Same as they don’t consider UVA prestigious.

Prestigious to US News. Now run along.


LOL! The New US News rankings?? Please Emory mom, give it up. Go enjoy all the amazingness that Atlanta has to offer you...

Enjoy your journeyman school.
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Anonymous wrote:Which do you think you would have more chance at Wall Street

Business/Econ/CS/Math at NYU

vs

Business/Econ/CS/Math at Emory

Depends if it's Stern or not. Emory is the more prestigious school so for econ, CS, and Math it's Emory. NYU Stern is different so NYU for business.


Another delusional shameless Emory person.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings
Undergrad one only shows for premium, so this is for grad, but not much difference.
NYU Econ: #11
Emory Econ: #53

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16lnder/us_news_2024_ranking_of_best_undergraduate/
Undergrad CS
NYU: #40
Emory #63

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings
Best math
NYU: #2
Emory: Need I say more?

Emory people please wake the F up already


Yet NYU still didn't make the adjusted ranking now did it? NYU grads do not get the same jobs Emory grads do.
Despite being in New York and Emory in Atlanta. Emory grads make more.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Emory%20University
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=New%20York%20University

Emory is also just ranked. NYU boosters need to get over it.


I would love to see them exclude Tisch, the School of Social Work, Steinhardt, and the College of Nursing. NYU would leapfrog up the list. I am certain that *Stern* grads get better jobs than Emory grads.

(Not a big NYU booster here - my son didn't even apply - but well familiar with Stern!)

Sure but exclude Emory humanities majors too.
If we look at just CS, Emory grads still make more 133k vs 129k. Again most NYU grads stay in the Northeast. Emory is more prestigious get over it.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139658-Emory-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?193900-New-York-University&fos_code=1101&fos_credential=3


Prestigious to who? I don’t think anyone is thinking about Emory in the Northeast. Same as they don’t consider UVA prestigious.

Prestigious to US News. Now run along.


If anything, this ranking of schools shows that no one recruiting on Wall Street cares one bit about US News' ranking changes to boost Public Universities due to "outcomes".

If this makes you feel better about it. Most top 25s didn't drop much.
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Anonymous wrote:DC said: "So this is the list of schools to avoid?"


“Yes if you wish to avoid making money - everyone hates doing that.”
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Anonymous wrote:Ignore all those insisting you must attend an elite college to work on Wall Street and take a look at the evidence that some companies provide on their websites. Here's Goldman Sachs' page introducing some of their employees.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/careers/meet-our-people/

Take a look at their bios, many of which include the colleges they attended, and you'll see the truth.



clearly, you don’t work on Wall Street. You have to look at the department and title.


And we're supposed to believe you do work on Wall Street and are posting on an anonymous college discussion board all throughout the trading day?


Do you have any experience of your children going through this? You should listen to other peoples' experiences.


Anecdotes don't give a complete enough picture for me. I want hard data and lots of it, and have seen none from those on this thread who are insisting you have to attend an elite college.


The list literally takes the jobs that were offered and divides by the number of students at each school and then ranks them by %age given positions. You can't get any more date-driven than that. And you would have to get into the elite college before you decided whether you can attend.


I have no reason to doubt that the list is accurate and haven't said so. What I know is not true is that the schools on the list are the only ones that have people working on Wall Street in desirable positions. Show me data to contradict that assertion.

Those who produce and/or promote these lists are oblivious to the serious damage they do to the well-being of those who use them, or they simply don't care.
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Anonymous wrote:Ignore all those insisting you must attend an elite college to work on Wall Street and take a look at the evidence that some companies provide on their websites. Here's Goldman Sachs' page introducing some of their employees.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/careers/meet-our-people/

Take a look at their bios, many of which include the colleges they attended, and you'll see the truth.



clearly, you don’t work on Wall Street. You have to look at the department and title.


And we're supposed to believe you do work on Wall Street and are posting on an anonymous college discussion board all throughout the trading day?


Do you have any experience of your children going through this? You should listen to other peoples' experiences.


Anecdotes don't give a complete enough picture for me. I want hard data and lots of it, and have seen none from those on this thread who are insisting you have to attend an elite college.


You actually think it's anecdotal that attending an elite college improves your potential career path? Steer clear then!


It would be foolish to 'steer clear' of amazing places to learn like those on the list. It's also foolish to believe that you must attend one of them in order to have access to desirable jobs.
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Anonymous wrote:Which do you think you would have more chance at Wall Street

Business/Econ/CS/Math at NYU

vs

Business/Econ/CS/Math at Emory

Depends if it's Stern or not. Emory is the more prestigious school so for econ, CS, and Math it's Emory. NYU Stern is different so NYU for business.


Another delusional shameless Emory person.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/economics-rankings
Undergrad one only shows for premium, so this is for grad, but not much difference.
NYU Econ: #11
Emory Econ: #53

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16lnder/us_news_2024_ranking_of_best_undergraduate/
Undergrad CS
NYU: #40
Emory #63

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings
Best math
NYU: #2
Emory: Need I say more?

Emory people please wake the F up already


Yet NYU still didn't make the adjusted ranking now did it? NYU grads do not get the same jobs Emory grads do.
Despite being in New York and Emory in Atlanta. Emory grads make more.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Emory%20University
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=New%20York%20University

Emory is also just ranked. NYU boosters need to get over it.


I would love to see them exclude Tisch, the School of Social Work, Steinhardt, and the College of Nursing. NYU would leapfrog up the list. I am certain that *Stern* grads get better jobs than Emory grads.

(Not a big NYU booster here - my son didn't even apply - but well familiar with Stern!)

Sure but exclude Emory humanities majors too.
If we look at just CS, Emory grads still make more 133k vs 129k. Again most NYU grads stay in the Northeast. Emory is more prestigious get over it.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?139658-Emory-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?193900-New-York-University&fos_code=1101&fos_credential=3


So overall seems like peer schools.
Prestige factor is negligible.
It's a matter of personal preference and priorities.

NYU is in New York. Most of the students stay in the northeast. There salary should be 25% higher not 10% lower.


LoL Emory folks were arguing hard that they send more kids to Wallstreet.
So most of the Emory graduates get stuck in GA?

I would avoid the school.

Why can't you admit NYU underperformed. They barely make more than Fordham grads. I'm sorry but a school that swears it's peers woth the T25 should make more than their adjacent school down the street with a 50% acceptance rate.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search?page=0&sort=threshold_earnings:desc&search=Fordham%20University


If you look at finance major earnings one year and ten years after graduation, and the ROI on the degree that takes into account the cost of the school, it's basically "Wharton and then everybody else". Or maybe Wharton, WUSTL, and then everybody else. But this is good news! It means you can attend a relatively accessible college and still do well.

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I'm surprised by MIT. I thought they'd have a higher percentage of students going to quants. But perhaps this table doesn't measure that. Or perhaps MIT students are more interesting.

Also, I remain struck by how antiquated Wall Street recruiting remains. Like they're stuck in the 90s when the best and brightest did actually go to Harvard and Yale. That's a long time ago. Genuine talent is found at a much broader spectrum of schools these days. It seems like on Wall Street there is still only The Path. Clearly, a very change averse industry.
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Nyu didnt make forbes new ivy list same as WashU, and Tufts.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by MIT. I thought they'd have a higher percentage of students going to quants. But perhaps this table doesn't measure that. Or perhaps MIT students are more interesting.

Also, I remain struck by how antiquated Wall Street recruiting remains. Like they're stuck in the 90s when the best and brightest did actually go to Harvard and Yale. That's a long time ago. Genuine talent is found at a much broader spectrum of schools these days. It seems like on Wall Street there is still only The Path. Clearly, a very change averse industry.


What??? You think they want to hire investment bankers who interact with c-suite execs from MIT? They are not looking for people who can’t socialize.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by MIT. I thought they'd have a higher percentage of students going to quants. But perhaps this table doesn't measure that. Or perhaps MIT students are more interesting.

Also, I remain struck by how antiquated Wall Street recruiting remains. Like they're stuck in the 90s when the best and brightest did actually go to Harvard and Yale. That's a long time ago. Genuine talent is found at a much broader spectrum of schools these days. It seems like on Wall Street there is still only The Path. Clearly, a very change averse industry.


I dont think top kids from MIT are going to or even want to go to traditional Wall Street firms. The most well paid internships are at quant firms where kids need to really know math and CS well to perform in interviews. Also, the days when IB paid very lucratively are over so i would not even encourage my kid to pursue that. We live in NY and have worked in finance for many years.
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Anonymous wrote:Ignore all those insisting you must attend an elite college to work on Wall Street and take a look at the evidence that some companies provide on their websites. Here's Goldman Sachs' page introducing some of their employees.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/careers/meet-our-people/

Take a look at their bios, many of which include the colleges they attended, and you'll see the truth.



clearly, you don’t work on Wall Street. You have to look at the department and title.


And we're supposed to believe you do work on Wall Street and are posting on an anonymous college discussion board all throughout the trading day?


Do you have any experience of your children going through this? You should listen to other peoples' experiences.


Anecdotes don't give a complete enough picture for me. I want hard data and lots of it, and have seen none from those on this thread who are insisting you have to attend an elite college.


The list literally takes the jobs that were offered and divides by the number of students at each school and then ranks them by %age given positions. You can't get any more date-driven than that. And you would have to get into the elite college before you decided whether you can attend.


I have no reason to doubt that the list is accurate and haven't said so. What I know is not true is that the schools on the list are the only ones that have people working on Wall Street in desirable positions. Show me data to contradict that assertion.

Those who produce and/or promote these lists are oblivious to the serious damage they do to the well-being of those who use them, or they simply don't care.


Send your kid anywhere you want. Just letting you know that Wall Street is probably not realistic. It’s ok. There are other careers. No one is trying to do damage to you, but to let you know how it actually works. You don’t have to believe the list or me, but it is a fact of life.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by MIT. I thought they'd have a higher percentage of students going to quants. But perhaps this table doesn't measure that. Or perhaps MIT students are more interesting.

Also, I remain struck by how antiquated Wall Street recruiting remains. Like they're stuck in the 90s when the best and brightest did actually go to Harvard and Yale. That's a long time ago. Genuine talent is found at a much broader spectrum of schools these days. It seems like on Wall Street there is still only The Path. Clearly, a very change averse industry.


I dont think top kids from MIT are going to or even want to go to traditional Wall Street firms. The most well paid internships are at quant firms where kids need to really know math and CS well to perform in interviews. Also, the days when IB paid very lucratively are over so i would not even encourage my kid to pursue that. We live in NY and have worked in finance for many years.


Ok — you think quant people become MDs. They don’t — the relationship people do. Quant away, but there is always another younger math person, client connections are what drive Wall Street. Not quants. But they have a place.
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Anonymous wrote:Ignore all those insisting you must attend an elite college to work on Wall Street and take a look at the evidence that some companies provide on their websites. Here's Goldman Sachs' page introducing some of their employees.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/careers/meet-our-people/

Take a look at their bios, many of which include the colleges they attended, and you'll see the truth.



clearly, you don’t work on Wall Street. You have to look at the department and title.


And we're supposed to believe you do work on Wall Street and are posting on an anonymous college discussion board all throughout the trading day?


Do you have any experience of your children going through this? You should listen to other peoples' experiences.


Anecdotes don't give a complete enough picture for me. I want hard data and lots of it, and have seen none from those on this thread who are insisting you have to attend an elite college.


You actually think it's anecdotal that attending an elite college improves your potential career path? Steer clear then!


It would be foolish to 'steer clear' of amazing places to learn like those on the list. It's also foolish to believe that you must attend one of them in order to have access to desirable jobs.


I don’t understand what you are trying to say. I’ve spent all day trying to tel you how recruiting actually works but you don’t want to listen. This is a very specific recruiting process for a very specific top tier job. I don’t care if you believe me, but go to Wall Street Oasis and read the board — this is how it works and Ohio state ain’t it.
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