Probably because they can't live on their meager salary. The older married ones live on their spouse's salary. |
I’d honestly be thrilled if my child wanted to be a teacher. All that stress is offset by summer and vacations where they can pursue hobbies. We are saving to cover education and hopefully provide assistance with a down payment to help with the financial setback they will take from a teachers salary. |
Teacher here. I get an 8 week summer and I spend half of it prepping for the next year. The 4 unpaid weeks I get IN NO WAY offset the 60-70 hour weeks I regularly put in during the school year. The OP’s post is ridiculous. Frankly, I’m extremely impressed by successful teachers. If you can effectively manage 150 reluctant teenagers each day along with the deluge of paperwork that creates, you can do any other job out there. |
ES teacher here. I couldn’t do what you do and it’s crazy we’re paid the same. I work 40 hour weeks and barely at all in the summer. |
My sister is an award-winning high school Biology teacher at a public school out of state, she teaches everything from AP Biology to Gen Ed sciences. She went to private high school, then UNC. Could have gone to work in research with a biology degree. But she never looked back, got her masters in education.
It’s not easy. But she has a lot of fun, feels challenged and has a very rewarding, balanced life. A number of her students have gone on to careers in science at federal agencies (she’s taught more than 15 years now). And she has enough free time to dabble in hobbies like baking and gaming, besides raising a kid. |
Yes, your DC needs to make their own path in life. Teachers make $140,000 per year in DC for 9 months of work. The teachers I know are pretty laid back. I'd be proud of DC. |
100%. Thought same thing. Funny how gender-based people are with professions. Teaching is rewarding and pays nothing, which leads to immense stress and anxiety. Have child consider professor/college at least to double or triple salary and stress levels are same…or consider researching. Salary isn’t everything but helps mitigate stress for sure on many levels. |
Your daughter is wise especially if she wants the have s family:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cant-outearn-stupidity-dave-ramsey-110000008.html#:~:text=Teachers%20rank%20third%2C%20behind%20engineers,lawyers%20ranked%20fourth%20and%20fifth. The hustle track is overrated. Only the top 2% make partner and they kill themselves to do it. |
I commend the OP for having the self awareness to acknowledge that she is a status-obsessed type -A UMC “striver”. The reality is that while money is a consideration, what really irks the OP is the relatively low status afforded to teachers due to it being non-competitive to enter. My unpopular opinion is that teachers have the most important and impactful role in our society, outside of lawmakers. I see what friends and family do as attorneys/big 4 partners and much of it is trivial paper pushing that makes a lot of money due to misaligned incentives. Most teachers will teach hundreds or thousands of kids during their careers and forever shape how they see the world. I wish that teachers were given the respect that their role deserves. |
There is nothing wrong with being a teacher. It is a respectable (even noble) occupation. OP is the one who has problems. |
I don’t get this. My DD is a second grade teacher in Baltimore. I could not be more proud. If any parent is “embarrassed” their child is a teacher, you are the problem. |
THIS if only one in 500 could become a teacher, even if it paid 40k/year, DCUM would be dying for their kids to become teachers. |
Our high-achieving DC always wanted to be a teacher....and has been talked out of it by their esteemed teachers. And I mean that sincerely. We've been greatly blessed with an extraordinary number of extraordinary teachers. But every. single. one. has said -- don't do it. So the pivot is to nursing, for now -- even though several close friends and family members who are nurses have likewise tried to dissuade our child. The plan is to double major in nursing and music therapy or (gasp) music education. Strikingly, little of the advice has been because of money. It's all about the working conditions -- the hours, the stress, the heartache, the paperwork(!). Both sets acknowledge, however, there will always be a need for teachers and nurses. It will not surprise us if, five years post BSN, our DC will be in a school. Somewhere. In the clinic, band room, or classroom. With us as their biggest cheerleaders! OP, please try to find a way to embrace your child's path. There's nothing wrong with pointing out the potential pitfalls along the way but your issue seems more about whether the profession is good enough for your child. That's a different matter altogether. |
The problem is that people in a profession often have little perspective of what other jobs are like. I've also heard many doctors and lawyers try to dissuade kids from pursuing those careers, and for similar reasons-- stress, bad employers, paperwork. Plus the high cost of the education required. Education, by comparison, has low barriers to entry. A teaching certification takes significantly less time and money to acquire than many other professionals degrees. This makes it lower risk-- try it, if you hate it, pivot to something else. If you love it, get a master's to max out your earning. The flexibility of this path is appealing, IMO. As for prestige... It's overrated. I'm a mid career lawyer and the prestige of a career gets undercut by your experience within it. My job sounds prestigious to outsiders and I do make a decent income. But the reality is that I'm not treated that well by my employer or my clients, I have low job satisfaction, and I only recently started seeing real financial returns on the investment in my education, because of the time it took me to pay off law school and then build up savings. And my hours are long and the job is high stress. The fact that some people are impressed that I'm a lawyer is not really worth that much to me at this point. |
There are relatively cushy teaching jobs and high stress ones and everything in between. The problem is they are all paid on the same scale. I SAH many years and only went back once I secured a “cushy” one. I’ll be the first to admit there are others in my school that should make more money than I do, but I don’t make the rules. |