The Bachelor (Joey)

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Anonymous wrote:Nick Viall likens Maria to Corinne on his season. She's there to get attention and produces tell the lead to keep her on for ratings.

Yes to the first point but he’s obviously very attracted to her, can barely keep his hands off her when they’re together.

Producers tell Joey to keep her enemy-of-the-week to maintain the drama. I agree he’s attracted to her but no way is she the one. He’s looking for nice and lower-maintenance. It’ll be Lexi, Jenn, NO Kelsey, or Daisy. Right now he seems most compatible with Kelsey, but that could change.

I think last night's ep made this very clear! Honestly the manufactured petty drama is tiresome.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the age thing ended up getting blown out of proportion, but Maria doesn't really seem like a good person, stealing other people's time when she already had a rose.

She's always horning in on the other girls' time. I don't like her much. She's gives major narcissist vibes.

I hope she's not the next Bachelorette. At first I found her directness and natural good looks refreshing, now I don't find her likable and am vaguely annoyed whenever she's on screen. Although there are some twits and some meanies in this group, I think there are several good Bachelorette candidates other than Maria.

I don't even find her attractive anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:So do we think Maria is the “one”?

I doubt it. I think she'll continue in her ways and ultimately Joey will realize he's too nice for her. My money's on Kelsey from NOLA, Jenn or Lexi.

Agree it won't be Maria. Joey seems like he was genuinely traumatized by the Charity rejection. He wants to feel secure in his relationship, will make a safe choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Nick Viall likens Maria to Corinne on his season. She's there to get attention and produces tell the lead to keep her on for ratings.

Yes to the first point but he’s obviously very attracted to her, can barely keep his hands off her when they’re together.

Producers tell Joey to keep her enemy-of-the-week to maintain the drama. I agree he’s attracted to her but no way is she the one. He’s looking for nice and lower-maintenance. It’ll be Lexi, Jenn, NO Kelsey, or Daisy. Right now he seems most compatible with Kelsey, but that could change.

But Lexi left last night?

Ah, not caught up yet. I'm surprised, they seemed to have good chemistry.

Am I the only one a little annoyed by this? He's 28 years old. If her biological clock is ticking that loudly, she made a poor choice to go on this show. Any reasonable person could have seen there would be a disconnect.

His timeline is unreasonable. A few years engaged, then a few years married before considering kids? Of course the 30-ish women wouldn’t be happy about that. I guess that’s the beauty of being a 20-something male though.

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Anonymous wrote:Nick Viall likens Maria to Corinne on his season. She's there to get attention and produces tell the lead to keep her on for ratings.

Yes to the first point but he’s obviously very attracted to her, can barely keep his hands off her when they’re together.

Producers tell Joey to keep her enemy-of-the-week to maintain the drama. I agree he’s attracted to her but no way is she the one. He’s looking for nice and lower-maintenance. It’ll be Lexi, Jenn, NO Kelsey, or Daisy. Right now he seems most compatible with Kelsey, but that could change.

But Lexi left last night?

Ah, not caught up yet. I'm surprised, they seemed to have good chemistry.

Am I the only one a little annoyed by this? He's 28 years old. If her biological clock is ticking that loudly, she made a poor choice to go on this show. Any reasonable person could have seen there would be a disconnect.

His timeline is unreasonable. A few years engaged, then a few years married before considering kids? Of course the 30-ish women wouldn’t be happy about that. I guess that’s the beauty of being a 20-something male though.

It was actually pretty wise of her to press him on this issue. She hoped they'd be, or get, in sync and it didn't happen. C'est la vie.

[Anonymous]

I'm not fully caught up yet, but the tell seems to whether there's an actual makeout vs. fairly chaste kisses. The latter means friend zone/ you're at the bottom. Has he made out with anyone other than Jenn, Daisy, and Maria?

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I've not been a fan of Maria, but I appreciate that she owns her big personality. She makes no apologies for who she is and she let's it show. It's refreshing compared to a lot of the women who are "playing the role" of dating this guy...all very controlled and pleasantly contained.

Maria's not the prettiest girl, but she can draw a guy in by her "devil may care" style. It puts a guy at ease (as Joey alluded to)....and it keeps them interested because she's a little (lot) unpredictable.

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What is so unique about how this season ends?

Any guesses?

My guess is that the woman who "wins" tells Joey that she wants to just date and not actually get engaged. Sort of a reverse-Juan-Pablo!

Joey is already fretting that there won't be someone who reciprocates his feelings in the end. I just don't get the vibes from Joey that HE actually wants to GET MARRIED. He seems like a guy who was flattered to be asked to be the lead, but he doesn't carry himself like a grown man who is ready to settle down. He seems like a nice young man who is playing the role of "lead Bachelor." I don't hear him saying that he is SO ready to get married or SO ready to start a family, etc. He seems like he's looking for a steady girlfriend.

I think the woman he picks will sense that and tell him they don't need to get engaged.

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Anonymous wrote:What is so unique about how this season ends?

Any guesses?

My guess is that the woman who "wins" tells Joey that she wants to just date and not actually get engaged. Sort of a reverse-Juan-Pablo!

Joey is already fretting that there won't be someone who reciprocates his feelings in the end. I just don't get the vibes from Joey that HE actually wants to GET MARRIED. He seems like a guy who was flattered to be asked to be the lead, but he doesn't carry himself like a grown man who is ready to settle down. He seems like a nice young man who is playing the role of "lead Bachelor." I don't hear him saying that he is SO ready to get married or SO ready to start a family, etc. He seems like he's looking for a steady girlfriend.

I think the woman he picks will sense that and tell him they don't need to get engaged.

I agree with all of this, except Reality Steve said he does get engaged. The key for him is that it's lengthy one, so an engagement doesn't surprise me if the woman is willing to accept his timeline. So what haven't we seen before on this show? Maybe he rejects one, changes his mind, then immediately runs after her to propose? So unlike Jason doesn't actually change his mind after proposing but during the ceremony? I can't imagine any other scenario that is a "surprise" but still results in an engagement.

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Anonymous wrote:I've not been a fan of Maria, but I appreciate that she owns her big personality. She makes no apologies for who she is and she let's it show. It's refreshing compared to a lot of the women who are "playing the role" of dating this guy...all very controlled and pleasantly contained.

Maria's not the prettiest girl, but she can draw a guy in by her "devil may care" style. It puts a guy at ease (as Joey alluded to)....and it keeps them interested because she's a little (lot) unpredictable.

I find her annoying and hope she's not selected as the Bachelorette. Not enough emotional depth, just in it to win it.

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Anonymous wrote:Nick Viall likens Maria to Corinne on his season. She's there to get attention and produces tell the lead to keep her on for ratings.

Yes to the first point but he’s obviously very attracted to her, can barely keep his hands off her when they’re together.

I think it was telling that he picked out the most conservative dress for her.

[Anonymous]

I don't think he connects with Maria on a deep level at all. She just has a a very surface personality.

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I think Joey is still dealing with the rejection from Charity. It was too soon for him to become the Bachelor.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think he connects with Maria on a deep level at all. She just has a a very surface personality.

But it seems like Maria and Rachel are the only two that he has fun with. Everything else always so heavy.

I'm rooting for Rachel, but I can see why he likes Maria. That limo ride was the perfect example; her sarcastically saying "Thanks Joey" when he said "you're pretty" was the most real moment of the whole season.

It probably feels nice to relax and laugh and be silly, when you have to spend each date listening to a new person download their personal trauma on you

[Anonymous]

This season is pretty boring. Joey is cute and seems like a sweetheart, but he doesn't seem that fun or have much of a sense of humor. There is minimal drama with the girls which doesn't make for good TV, but outside of Maria and a bit of Jen, these girls are plain Jane.