New Season of True Detective on HBO

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Anonymous wrote:Easter eggs/recurrent symbols: dead Travis (Rust's dad from Season 1?), spirals (again a reference to S1), polar bears. What am I missing?

There was also Tuttle Industries that funds Tsalal - Tuttle was the family/org in TD Season 1 that was stopping investigations, as they were complicit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's in a medically induced coma and presumably still is. I think he's alive the same way "Dead Travis" is actually alive -- think back to the scene with the science teacher explaining Tsalal's work with microorganisms. I think they have some kind of regenerative property. That's got to be tied to Dead Travis, the frozen guy, and maybe Clark's seizures.

I’m liking the show, but I can’t believe they didn’t have at least one scene where people were having a WTF moment over how he could still be alive after being entombed in ice for several days. Instead, a quick reference to him being in a medically-induced coma and back to humdrum police work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Easter eggs/recurrent symbols: dead Travis (Rust's dad from Season 1?), spirals (again a reference to S1), polar bears. What am I missing?

There was also Tuttle Industries that funds Tsalal - Tuttle was the family/org in TD Season 1 that was stopping investigations, as they were complicit.

Thank you! I was just trying to figure out where I’d heard Tuttle before- that was the whole nefarious family/cult!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's in a medically induced coma and presumably still is. I think he's alive the same way "Dead Travis" is actually alive -- think back to the scene with the science teacher explaining Tsalal's work with microorganisms. I think they have some kind of regenerative property. That's got to be tied to Dead Travis, the frozen guy, and maybe Clark's seizures.

I’m liking the show, but I can’t believe they didn’t have at least one scene where people were having a WTF moment over how he could still be alive after being entombed in ice for several days. Instead, a quick reference to him being in a medically-induced coma and back to humdrum police work.

I caught that too. They’re all odd ducks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's in a medically induced coma and presumably still is. I think he's alive the same way "Dead Travis" is actually alive -- think back to the scene with the science teacher explaining Tsalal's work with microorganisms. I think they have some kind of regenerative property. That's got to be tied to Dead Travis, the frozen guy, and maybe Clark's seizures.

I’m liking the show, but I can’t believe they didn’t have at least one scene where people were having a WTF moment over how he could still be alive after being entombed in ice for several days. Instead, a quick reference to him being in a medically-induced coma and back to humdrum police work.

I caught that too. They’re all odd ducks.

I assumed that was all part of the ultra-annoying supernatural element of the show. Sure, it’s totally reasonable and not at all out of the ordinary for a man to just wake up from being naked in a block of snow for several days. I was equally bothered when the one cop told the other something along the lines of “You grew up in Ennis, you of all people should know that even the dead can’t sleep in the night days.” Really? Because that sounds like a lot of cock and bull and laziness on the part of the writer.

I really miss Nic Pizzolatto. I remember the whole Tuttle Industry side plot in Season 1 and knew it was a red herring. I knew the sort of person who would commit those types of crimes would be exactly the kind of guy they got in the end. I remember arguing this up and down with my then boyfriend, now husband. Meanwhile, DV had all of these really ridiculous conspiracy theories. I’m starting to worry that his predictions will pan out in this season, but I’ll reserve a final judgement until the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a Max ad on FB for the show. It showed clips from all seasons and included a scene with the spiral symbol on an evidence wall from an earlier season. What's the connection??

It’s in the first season.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's in a medically induced coma and presumably still is. I think he's alive the same way "Dead Travis" is actually alive -- think back to the scene with the science teacher explaining Tsalal's work with microorganisms. I think they have some kind of regenerative property. That's got to be tied to Dead Travis, the frozen guy, and maybe Clark's seizures.

I’m liking the show, but I can’t believe they didn’t have at least one scene where people were having a WTF moment over how he could still be alive after being entombed in ice for several days. Instead, a quick reference to him being in a medically-induced coma and back to humdrum police work.

That is not physically possible. A close relative died of hypothermia and then drowned in the Bay because the water was too cold in early April. The cold water is like a boa constrictor on your chest and you cannot breath. You cannot survive period. Perhaps that is a sign that they weren’t in the water as long as suspected (or at least that guy wasn’t).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a Max ad on FB for the show. It showed clips from all seasons and included a scene with the spiral symbol on an evidence wall from an earlier season. What's the connection??

It’s in the first season.

Also in the first season I believe McConnaughy’s character says he spent some time in Alaska. There is connection. I wouldn’t be surprised if those triangular stick houses start showing up.

[Anonymous]

Was it clear the person in the coma was one of the scientists?

Also, JF ask Navarro, where do you keep the cans now? Did you move them? So did they live together? How would one know where someone keeps their groceries?

JF told the old lady don’t doodle on my daughter so she definitely feels a connection to the daughter / stepdaughter.

What was the implication of the frozen leg moving in the ice? Just that it’s thawing? Coming back to live?

Who is the missing scientist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was it clear the person in the coma was one of the scientists?

Also, JF ask Navarro, where do you keep the cans now? Did you move them? So did they live together? How would one know where someone keeps their groceries?

JF told the old lady don’t doodle on my daughter so she definitely feels a connection to the daughter / stepdaughter.

What was the implication of the frozen leg moving in the ice? Just that it’s thawing? Coming back to live?

Who is the missing scientist?

The missing scientist is Raymond who was the boyfriend of Anna, who was wearing the pink coat, had the tatoo on his chest and bought the camper. He’s unaccounted for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am confused about the frozen guy who moaned when his hand snapped off. Is he the person referred to as being in a medical coma? If so, how it is possible that he could be alive?

That’s my impression based on counting the corpses. One is missing and one is alive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's in a medically induced coma and presumably still is. I think he's alive the same way "Dead Travis" is actually alive -- think back to the scene with the science teacher explaining Tsalal's work with microorganisms. I think they have some kind of regenerative property. That's got to be tied to Dead Travis, the frozen guy, and maybe Clark's seizures.

I’m liking the show, but I can’t believe they didn’t have at least one scene where people were having a WTF moment over how he could still be alive after being entombed in ice for several days. Instead, a quick reference to him being in a medically-induced coma and back to humdrum police work.

Ha! Yes, I thought the same thing! A completely shocking, grotesque moment and then everyone's back to normal.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it clear the person in the coma was one of the scientists?

Also, JF ask Navarro, where do you keep the cans now? Did you move them? So did they live together? How would one know where someone keeps their groceries?

JF told the old lady don’t doodle on my daughter so she definitely feels a connection to the daughter / stepdaughter.

What was the implication of the frozen leg moving in the ice? Just that it’s thawing? Coming back to live?

Who is the missing scientist?

The missing scientist is Raymond who was the boyfriend of Anna, who was wearing the pink coat, had the tatoo on his chest and bought the camper. He’s unaccounted for.

DP. Is Raymond the scientist who in ep. 1 returns to Tsalal and has what looks like a seizure, then says, "She's awake"? I am so confused, mainly because most of the scientists seem to be dark-haired bearded men and they all look alike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dead Travis is dead and is Matthew McConaughey‘s character in season 1’s father.

The swirly symbol is from previous seasons.

JF is not related to the two male cops. The younger babysat her daughter when he was younger (he mentioned it at the end of the episode). The relationship b/w Liz and Leah hasn’t been clarified.

Wait - WHAT?? How do you know this? So was that woman his mother (the woman who lives alone and saw Dead Travis)??

[Anonymous]

First episode was better than the second. The unconnected pieces of the mystery were eerie in episode 1. Now, the unconnected pieces are feeling dumb. Like the points made upthread about the scientist still being alive, and everyone seemingly calm about the giant "corpsicle" of naked men with exploded ear drums, burnt eyes, and wounds from biting their own flesh. Yeah, Pete, just sit next to it and watch Tik Tok. And everyone would be drinking a lot more than they are.

I'm thinking there is some microbes or toxins in the water or gases from the mine and everyone is mass hallucinating.