New Season of True Detective on HBO

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been an ok watch as a standalone show but tying it to True Detective just showed it's not up to standard. I mean the detectives in this one were bumbling idiots that stumbled onto the conclusion at the very end only to shrug their shoulders. Quite boring, even compared to Season 2.

I loved season one as well….but those two were pretty yappy. The murders were the best parts.

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Anonymous wrote:Well haters, the ratings were fantastic and Issa got the next season. I love that a woman told a story about the oppression of indigenous people (especially women), and the nature of trauma and grief.

To me Lopez painted women and indigenous people as irrational, incompetent, and impulsive
-Both female lead detectives were terrible at their jobs. Couldn't figure out that a dozen random cleaning ladies stormed the station on initial investigation. Couldn't figure out the caves were under the station when they had a map. Killed or attacked the domestic violence guys in the only other cases we saw them investigate. Let the cleaning ladies go. Encouraged the coverup of the elder Prior's death
-Cop and her sister commit suicide because they see ghosts. To me it is insulting to portray that suicide is a noble death for the indigenous women and they did it twice!
-Cleaning ladies find a drill bit six years after the fact and decide storming the station and killing the ALL the scientists is the way to go without any evidence which scientists actually killed Annie

The most redeeming characters were the young male cop (killed his dad), Rose (disposed of bodies) and the bar guy.

I think you're misunderstanding the native cleaning women. They found the drill bit and began to surmise that the scientists killed Annie, but then investigated around the station to try to figure out why. We saw them opening up the file cabinets etc and looking at the research. So they came to understand that the scientists had not just killed Annie, but that the mine was responsible for polluting the area and effectively killing residents. So they engaged in some frontier justice, as many before have done. You seem to find this bad writing, but this kind of thing was the basis of a lot of very macho Clint Eastwood movies so I'm not sure what you're complaining about really, should be right up your alley.

I enjoyed the first season more -- it was creepier and the way the leads played off one another was more entertaining to me -- some of the scenes where Harrelson is just begging for McCaunaghy not to say anything weird for two minutes still make me laugh years later. But I thought the mystery this season was a pretty good tbh, and I enjoyed that the mystery of Annie's death was actually "solved" by an unexpected, marginalized, discounted group rather than the law enforcement people usually at the center of this show.

Just finished the season. Loved it. Some people just can’t stand non-white males being centered in a story.

This argument doesn’t make sense for True Detective, which already *has* a season focused on a Black detective that was much better than this one (Season 3, and if you are looking for shows with a strong POC lead, you should check it out). While reviews were mixed (I personally thought it was better than many people gave it credit for, but I liked season 2 as well), it prompted nothing like the negative reaction fans of the series had for S4. It’s pretty sad when people try to dismiss the many aesthetic criticisms of the train-wreck of Season 4 by implying the critics are racist. I guess that’s just how people roll these days.

Season 3 was excellent. I had a hard time watching because my grandparent had dementia. Mahershala Ali nailed his performance. He was spot on. I love Jodie, but she had nothing to work with. The writing in Season 4 was atrocious.

DP. Totally agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Well haters, the ratings were fantastic and Issa got the next season. I love that a woman told a story about the oppression of indigenous people (especially women), and the nature of trauma and grief.

To me Lopez painted women and indigenous people as irrational, incompetent, and impulsive
-Both female lead detectives were terrible at their jobs. Couldn't figure out that a dozen random cleaning ladies stormed the station on initial investigation. Couldn't figure out the caves were under the station when they had a map. Killed or attacked the domestic violence guys in the only other cases we saw them investigate. Let the cleaning ladies go. Encouraged the coverup of the elder Prior's death
-Cop and her sister commit suicide because they see ghosts. To me it is insulting to portray that suicide is a noble death for the indigenous women and they did it twice!
-Cleaning ladies find a drill bit six years after the fact and decide storming the station and killing the ALL the scientists is the way to go without any evidence which scientists actually killed Annie

The most redeeming characters were the young male cop (killed his dad), Rose (disposed of bodies) and the bar guy.

I think you're misunderstanding the native cleaning women. They found the drill bit and began to surmise that the scientists killed Annie, but then investigated around the station to try to figure out why. We saw them opening up the file cabinets etc and looking at the research. So they came to understand that the scientists had not just killed Annie, but that the mine was responsible for polluting the area and effectively killing residents. So they engaged in some frontier justice, as many before have done. You seem to find this bad writing, but this kind of thing was the basis of a lot of very macho Clint Eastwood movies so I'm not sure what you're complaining about really, should be right up your alley.

I enjoyed the first season more -- it was creepier and the way the leads played off one another was more entertaining to me -- some of the scenes where Harrelson is just begging for McCaunaghy not to say anything weird for two minutes still make me laugh years later. But I thought the mystery this season was a pretty good tbh, and I enjoyed that the mystery of Annie's death was actually "solved" by an unexpected, marginalized, discounted group rather than the law enforcement people usually at the center of this show.

Just finished the season. Loved it. Some people just can’t stand non-white males being centered in a story.

I loved it! And the frontier justice l. MAGA of course will hate it.

DP. This is such a bizarre and ignorant take. I hated it and I'm not "MAGA" at all. Are you ever able to leave politics out of anything?

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Just finished the season. I loved it! It recalls the 1970s revenge films, like I Spit on Your Grave. I think I enjoyed it more than season 1.

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It’s really disjointed and stupid

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I really enjoyed it

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It would have been better without the “supernatural” or insanity aspect. But it was good.

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been better without the “supernatural” or insanity aspect. But it was good.

That was my favorite part. I wish they’d leaned much further into mysticism. Maybe a secondary plot line over more episodes. I liked it well enough to watch every week.

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been better without the “supernatural” or insanity aspect. But it was good.

Travis and the PhD lady were the only watchable part of the show.

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I was so relieved when the mental sister went away. What was the point?

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been better without the “supernatural” or insanity aspect. But it was good.

That was my favorite part. I wish they’d leaned much further into mysticism. Maybe a secondary plot line over more episodes. I liked it well enough to watch every week.

But it added nothing to the murders.

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Anonymous wrote:It would have been better without the “supernatural” or insanity aspect. But it was good.

That was my favorite part. I wish they’d leaned much further into mysticism. Maybe a secondary plot line over more episodes. I liked it well enough to watch every week.

But it added nothing to the murders.

I didn’t need them too. It was interesting. Especially considering the way long night effects people. There weren’t enough episodes to develop this more.

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Anonymous wrote:I was so relieved when the mental sister went away. What was the point?

Her and the mail order bride stories could have been cut. Or at least resolved sooner. It was clear sis wasn’t getting better.

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Travis and the PhD Lady spin off!!!

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Anonymous wrote:It's a good starter episode and we will keep watching. It doesn't have the immediate creepiness and eerie vibe that the first season of the show had that was so intense.

We found it immediately creepy and eerie! The very first three scenes are creepy with strong supernatural overtones. It goes on to have creepy/eerie events.

Alas, due to the graphic sex scene, we won’t be watching with our 17 year olds.

It’s the supernatural overtones that caught me off guard. It’s not that they are bad, but I wasn’t expecting that from True Detective. What I liked about the show was that it didn’t go supernatural or surrealistic. It was very much grounded in reality, even when the detective had dementia. I loved Nic Pizzolato and his vision. seeing his shoe felt like talking to a soulmate.

I didn’t know beforehand that he wasn’t working on this season. I noticed immediately that it didn’t feel like him and was very disappointed, but not surprised to see there was a different show runner. She’s also good, very but it wasn’t what I wanted from True Detective. I wish they’d just given the show a different name, kinda like Mare of Eastown. I’ll still be watching, but I was sad to get hyped up for Nic and end up with something completely different.

Took me a couple reads that you were seeing his show and it felt like a soulmate, not that he saw his own shoe as his soulmate. Keep clam and proofread!