JMU vs. Colby

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison is beautiful- https://www.instagram.com/jamesmadisonuniversity/

Lots of colleges look beautiful on their official IG account. Some are even beautiful in person. Not a reason to attend a middling school.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

NP. True. But they also go to JMU. (And W&M is nowhere near any mountains, nor does it have excellent sports teams.)

My DD chose JMU over VT. Her friends dorm room was full of mold upon move in at VT.

I've had kids at both schools, plus another university. All have certain dorms that are older and have mold. Such is life.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Crap mid Atlantic skiing…especially in VA. Also, it’s more like 2.5 hours away to snowshoe or Canaan. Bryce is pretty awful skiing.

Colby is only 1 hour from Sugarloaf which is 100x better than anything in the mid Atlantic.

My only point is that if being near mountains or skiing is important…well you again would probably go out West…but Colby offers much better options than JMU.

That is your opinion. If a kid wants to ski Wintergreen Resort is close to JMU.

Did OP even say her kid cared about skiing? Because “come to JMU and be near great skiing” is a strange (and not particularly honest) flex. Lots of things to recommend JMU. Skiing is like #987 on the list.

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DMV area > Maine

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Are you seriously. Pushing JMU based on… skiing opportunity near the school? And saying that JMU has the same skiing opportunities as Colby?

Loyalty to your kids school is admirable. Until you cross the line into absurd. I would hope we could at least agree that Maine has better skiing than VA/WV. Especially recently. DH tres to ski in WV a couple times a winter. The last 2-3 years, he’s been once. Total, not per year. VA and WV are down to a 4 week ski season in the past few years— if they are lucky. No matter how much snow they make. It’s almost January and ski season. Weather still isn’t here. By mid Feb, they are closed. Maine wins when it comes to this aspect of global warming.

DP. I'm sorry, but there is no way you can argue that Colby has closer skiing that JMU. Massanutten is literally 20 minutes away. Regardless, most college students aren't heading to college to be competitive skiers - they just want a fun day every now and then. JMU is perfect in this regard. Not sure how this thread veered off into skiing, but it's pretty irrelevant to most people anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop. A 3rd tier VA state school is just not happening.

1. Tiers are not real
2. 22,000 JMU kids would think otherwise

1. Tiers of VA schools are 100% real. Unless you think UVA, WM, JMu and Radford are created equal
2. JMU is NOVA’s safety school. Half of those 22,000 kids are only there because they were rejected by Tier 1 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison is beautiful- https://www.instagram.com/jamesmadisonuniversity/

Lots of colleges look beautiful on their official IG account. Some are even beautiful in person. Not a reason to attend a middling school.

Ok, troll! "Middling" is exactly the word I'd expect from someone like you.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Which mountains surround William and Mary?

What does skiing have to do with undergraduate education? It is, or should be, an irrelevant criterion for anyone going on to higher education to actually get an education as opposed to engage in recreation.

Yes- the Colby booster was trying to claim they had better skiing.

Well, it’s Maine. They do have better skiing. Not sure what that has to do with educational quality. But you say “claim” like there could be an honest debate about the quality of skiing in Va vs Maine. Come on man.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

NP. True. But they also go to JMU. (And W&M is nowhere near any mountains, nor does it have excellent sports teams.)

My DD chose JMU over VT. Her friends dorm room was full of mold upon move in at VT.

Hopefully, your DD is in some form of humanities, and not STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Why does it matter if there are “mountains” that someone can see. They don’t add anything to the college experience as they do at CU Boulder or University of Utah.

They are just big hills off in the distance that nobody cares about.

Colby has some actual mountains where you might actually ski and enjoy them if that factors into someone’s decision.

You can ski in VA and WV within an hour or less of JMU.

Crap mid Atlantic skiing…especially in VA. Also, it’s more like 2.5 hours away to snowshoe or Canaan. Bryce is pretty awful skiing.

Colby is only 1 hour from Sugarloaf which is 100x better than anything in the mid Atlantic.

My only point is that if being near mountains or skiing is important…well you again would probably go out West…but Colby offers much better options than JMU.

That is your opinion. If a kid wants to ski Wintergreen Resort is close to JMU.

Did OP even say her kid cared about skiing? Because “come to JMU and be near great skiing” is a strange (and not particularly honest) flex. Lots of things to recommend JMU. Skiing is like #987 on the list.

Again, it would be great if you'd do a little research before posting. You are so far off the mark, it's kind of funny. No one is claiming JMU is equivalent to Colorado or Utah for skiing, but for a lot of people, being 20 minutes away from a fun day on the slopes is a huge plus.

https://www.breezejmu.org/news/massanutten-mountain-provides-winter-escape/article_062f8050-d875-11e6-8de8-1b96d09950d7.html (from 2017 but still applicable)
https://www.jmu.edu/recreation/sports/sport-clubs/clubs/skisnowboard.shtml
https://www.jmu.edu/recreation/sports/sport-clubs/clubs/boarderline.shtml

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

NP. True. But they also go to JMU. (And W&M is nowhere near any mountains, nor does it have excellent sports teams.)

My DD chose JMU over VT. Her friends dorm room was full of mold upon move in at VT.

Hopefully, your DD is in some form of humanities, and not STEM.

DP. Both JMU and VT are excellent for humanities. Only 20% of VT is engineering. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.

The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?

What does acceptance rate tell us?

It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.

JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.

You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.

JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.

Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…

Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.

There's high level of correlation between acceptance rate and student body quality.

Where is your proof?

It also depends what you consider quality. The wealthy strivers who went to private schools but didn't do well enough to get into an Ivy or Williams or Bowdoin, but whose connections will continue to find them high paying jobs once they graduate from Colby. Or the hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughou their childhoods, working hard enough to get merit aid for JMU, while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network.

In VA, Hard-working MC and UMC kids who lived well-rounded lives throughout their childhoods, working hard while making friends and living a balanced life, surrounded by beautiful mountains, excellent sports teams, and thousands and thousands of other students around which to build a network
go to UVA, W&M, or VT.

Which mountains surround William and Mary?

What does skiing have to do with undergraduate education? It is, or should be, an irrelevant criterion for anyone going on to higher education to actually get an education as opposed to engage in recreation.

Yes- the Colby booster was trying to claim they had better skiing.

Well, it’s Maine. They do have better skiing. Not sure what that has to do with educational quality. But you say “claim” like there could be an honest debate about the quality of skiing in Va vs Maine. Come on man.

No one is making that claim. But it's entirely false to say that JMU isn't located right down the road from a ski resort. Because it is.
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JMU seems fun. The snobs on this thread do not.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU seems fun. The snobs on this thread do not.

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