Will America vote for Kamala Harris in 2024? This is the real question.

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Anonymous wrote:So pathetic that this is all that the Democrats have to offer, and we are just hoping to squeak out a win -- if we're lucky and can also get a few abortion initiatives on the ballot at election time. If elected, Biden will be unable to serve his full 2nd term, we will get Harris, and then how much you wanna bet she'll be the default candidate in 2028 bc identity politics and turns and whatnot. Ridiculous we don't have a more effective plan or more popular candidates. If we had someone younger with the amount of charisma B. Clinton had in his pinky finger to even be able to put in as VP in 2024, Biden would sail into office. All bc of the guy who said he was just going to run once and be our savior in 2020. The Republican Party is in the toilet and we should be able to just sit back and breathe a little easier but it's shocking how little foresight those in the executive office currently have.

This is why Biden winning in 2024 is a likelihood.

The GOP led House of Representatives is literally a clown show. Nothing is getting done legislation wise.

Trump will get convicted of something in 2024. The majority of Americans will have moved on from him in the general election - enough for an electoral college win.

Ok? That's my point. And I am a Democrat who is unhappy we will be stuck with Harris beyond 2024. We should be situating ourselves to be in an extremely strong and much more failsafe position for immediately beyond the 2024 election. The fact that we even have to hand wring so much about 2024, and have the outcome depend on a few bad things happening to Trump, is pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:So pathetic that this is all that the Democrats have to offer, and we are just hoping to squeak out a win -- if we're lucky and can also get a few abortion initiatives on the ballot at election time. If elected, Biden will be unable to serve his full 2nd term, we will get Harris, and then how much you wanna bet she'll be the default candidate in 2028 bc identity politics and turns and whatnot. Ridiculous we don't have a more effective plan or more popular candidates. If we had someone younger with the amount of charisma B. Clinton had in his pinky finger to even be able to put in as VP in 2024, Biden would sail into office. All bc of the guy who said he was just going to run once and be our savior in 2020. The Republican Party is in the toilet and we should be able to just sit back and breathe a little easier but it's shocking how little foresight those in the executive office currently have.

This is so stupid. Harris would be just fine. I don’t care if the president has charisma. Just get the job done.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

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Anyone claiming she's a capable, serious person needs their head examined.

I'm not a huge fan of Harris myself, but these kinds of comments make me snicker. Of course she is a capable serious person. Have you seen her bio? She didn't just pop up out of nowhere on the VP ticket.

You may not like her, but this is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:So pathetic that this is all that the Democrats have to offer, and we are just hoping to squeak out a win -- if we're lucky and can also get a few abortion initiatives on the ballot at election time. If elected, Biden will be unable to serve his full 2nd term, we will get Harris, and then how much you wanna bet she'll be the default candidate in 2028 bc identity politics and turns and whatnot. Ridiculous we don't have a more effective plan or more popular candidates. If we had someone younger with the amount of charisma B. Clinton had in his pinky finger to even be able to put in as VP in 2024, Biden would sail into office. All bc of the guy who said he was just going to run once and be our savior in 2020. The Republican Party is in the toilet and we should be able to just sit back and breathe a little easier but it's shocking how little foresight those in the executive office currently have.

This is so stupid. Harris would be just fine. I don’t care if the president has charisma. Just get the job done.

She would do just fine if people could only understand her word salad. No one have a clue what is she talking about and she is not getting a job done, so she is out.

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It's fine, I'll vote for Harris because of Trump but will seriously consider the GOP in 2028. Can only imagine the crazy extreme left policies that will be making the news this second term.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

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Anyone claiming she's a capable, serious person needs their head examined.

I'm not a huge fan of Harris myself, but these kinds of comments make me snicker. Of course she is a capable serious person. Have you seen her bio? She didn't just pop up out of nowhere on the VP ticket.

You may not like her, but this is silly.

Agree. I am not a fan, but she isn’t stupid or incapable. And real fans should recognize their candidate’s weaknesses and real reasons (beyond misogyny, racism and looks) why that candidate does not appeal to others. If you understand that, then you can work in making them more appealing to a wider audience.

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Anonymous wrote:So pathetic that this is all that the Democrats have to offer, and we are just hoping to squeak out a win -- if we're lucky and can also get a few abortion initiatives on the ballot at election time. If elected, Biden will be unable to serve his full 2nd term, we will get Harris, and then how much you wanna bet she'll be the default candidate in 2028 bc identity politics and turns and whatnot. Ridiculous we don't have a more effective plan or more popular candidates. If we had someone younger with the amount of charisma B. Clinton had in his pinky finger to even be able to put in as VP in 2024, Biden would sail into office. All bc of the guy who said he was just going to run once and be our savior in 2020. The Republican Party is in the toilet and we should be able to just sit back and breathe a little easier but it's shocking how little foresight those in the executive office currently have.

This is so stupid. Harris would be just fine. I don’t care if the president has charisma. Just get the job done.

She would do just fine if people could only understand her word salad. No one have a clue what is she talking about and she is not getting a job done, so she is out.

If she was getting the job done, the word salad complaints would go waaaay down.

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Name one thing she has accomplished (of her own initiative and merit) in the past three years.

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Anonymous wrote:Name one thing she has accomplished (of her own initiative and merit) in the past three years.

She dresses nicely.

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Anonymous wrote:Name one thing she has accomplished (of her own initiative and merit) in the past three years.

She dresses nicely.

And this is why you would vote for her?

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Anonymous wrote:Name one thing she has accomplished (of her own initiative and merit) in the past three years.

She dresses nicely.

And this is why you would vote for her?

It's just the one thing I could think she's accomplished in the past three years.

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She couldn’t run a campaign that could last until Iowa. If nothing major happens in foreign affairs, she’ll be okay. But it’s not likely she’ll be reelected and she’ll probably be challenged during the primary.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

Considering the names in play, being an idiot seems like the top criterion they are looking for.

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Why is the VP so frequently referred to by her first name rather than her last?
I noticed this too when Hilary Clinton was running, but figured maybe her last name could be confusing as a Clinton was already president in somewhat recent history.

But with Harris? It is hard to think of a reason other than her gender...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm pretty sure that Biden has said he's only on the ballot to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. If Trump were to be blocked from running again, then I think Biden would retire.

However, I don't think Harris is popular enough. I think that if Biden dropped out, Whitmer would be the primary contender to take the Democratic nomination and beat Nikki Haley (or Ron DeSantis). Other than Andy Beshear (who continues to claim he won't run), I think Whitmer is the strongest contender after Biden and Trump.

Is it that whitmer is a white woman. That’s the only reason she would be a contender over harris.

Or it could be the fact that Harris is an idiot.

I’m a nonwhite woman. I think both are true - a woman can win, but not a woman AND a minority. One or the other. And I honestly don’t care. I am fine with this being the state of the world for now, progress is incremental.

I also agree that Harris is a quintessential diversity hire who is not a substantively good candidate and has been a huge disappointment. I don’t want her to be president.

Diversity hire? Harris has been an ELECTED official - in a state with a 6% black population. And she'll be a two-term VP. And...maybe president one day.

You can start gnashing your teeth now.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. Yes, a diversity hire. Biden very nakedly chose her as his VP to pander to the identity politics faction of the Democratic Party. I have no doubt that she’s an ambitious and intelligent person, and yes, she was an elected official. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t a diversity hire for her current role. And she has not proven herself to be a great fit for the job either. She comes off as an empty suit. I voted for HRC in 2016, and in my view there is a stark difference between the two of them in competency, presence, and who I would want picking up the phone at 3 AM, to quote an old HRC ad.

I’m a Democrat. I’ll reluctantly vote for the Biden/Harris ticket over Trump or any of the insane Republicans who are running in 2024, but truthfully I am not confident that Biden will live through 2028 and I really do not want Harris to be president. She’s fine as a senator or ambassador or even a cabinet head, but I don’t feel great about having her in charge.

What has she actually done in her role as VP that makes you question her competence?

Just because someone is an underrepresented minority, and that is viewed as a plus by some, does not mean the person is not qualified or competent. Those of you continuously saying that she's an idiot or lacks competence or was merely a diversity hire, please tell us, in what ways is she actually unqualified for the job? Or are you maybe just a bigot who can't possibly see a Black woman as competent?

I'm the PP you're responding to. I'm the child of Indian immigrants, so I also consider Harris to be an Indian woman as equally as she is a Black woman, and from an identity politics perspective I would have been happy to see her succeed. Of course I agree that one can be "diverse" and also good at their job - I just do not think Harris is one of those people. And I reject your implication that criticizing her makes me "a bigot who can't possibly see a Black woman as competent" and I think this tired argument epitomizes the Democratic party's general problems with DEI and their constant racial pandering. If you think it's racist, it's your problem to live with. I'm not changing my opinion because of you, and there are many others like me who think similarly and also vote.

She's qualified on paper. Yes, I recognize that she was a prosecutor and that she held national office. I don't think she's a bad politician. She is certainly much smarter and more articulate than Trump, but "better than Trump" is not the bar I use for determining whether someone is actually a good candidate for president. She does not seem to have achieved any substantive policy accomplishments. Biden very publicly handed her the border/Central America to "own" as VP, and while that may have been an unfair assignment, in my view she has done absolutely nothing to help or even steer the conversation in the right direction. This is a critical issue, both optically for the Democrats and substantively for our country. She's done nothing else of substance that I can point to as She's also a bad communicator. She's especially bad at dealing with tough questions and criticism. Her interviews are borderline embarrassing. Biden isn't great, either, but again - I'm looking at her on her own merits. I wouldn't be happy to have her negotiating with Putin or Xi or really anyone on behalf of the country.

+1 Enough with false cries of racism any time someone doesn't 100% agree with you. It's overplayed and shrieking it about means nothing now.